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ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Sun, 28 December 2003 02:27
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i am looking to find out dimensions of certain shocks, does anyone here have those kind of details
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Sun, 28 December 2003 03:25
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what details do you need...i just so happen to own a monroe shocker catalogue...which gives all dimensions from length, to width, stroke, etc..
if you want, tell me what you've got, and i'll tell you what will fit, or what will fit with spacers, etc.
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Sun, 28 December 2003 04:11
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| Steve-AE86 wrote on Sun, 28 December 2003 14:25 |
if you want, tell me what you've got, and i'll tell you what will fit, or what will fit with spacers, etc.
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MA61 / SA63 (same?)
MX62
ST185
I would be very appreciative if you could give me all the measurements for the above! In particular the stroke of the MX62 units.
I have SA63 struts if you can recommend anything else that will fit them... 
Thanks heaps!
Cheers
Wilbo
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Sun, 28 December 2003 09:48
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dont worry, VK commodore rear shox fit, so they will b cheaper
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Sun, 28 December 2003 23:32
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| wilbo666 wrote on Sun, 28 December 2003 14:41 |
MA61 / SA63 (same?)
MX62
ST185
I would be very appreciative if you could give me all the measurements for the above! In particular the stroke of the MX62 units.
I have SA63 struts if you can recommend anything else that will fit them...
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to start off, Type refers to this diagram:
Body is the length of the body,
Comp is the compressed length,
Extn is the extended length.
pretty easy, huh..
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MA61
Type T6
Body 397
Comp 408
Extn 617
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SA63/RA60
Type T6
Body 405
Comp 405
Extn 609
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MX62 (9/80-8/82)
Type T5
Body 387
Comp 399
Extn 591
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MX62 (9/80-7/84)
same as MA61
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ST185
Type T6
Body 328
Comp 355
Extn 483
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ok. believe it or not, ALL commodore, from 78-93 will fit SA63 struts, are exactly the right body length, and compressed length, but have 10mm less stroke.
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Wed, 31 December 2003 01:42
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Thanks man! GREAT STUFF!
Can I ask you to look up another one for me.. AE92
Cheers
Wilbo
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Wed, 31 December 2003 09:55
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AE92
well here's the thing...
according to my 'monroe' application listing book... 
you cant fit ae92 to your car, because they are a full strut replacement..not a cartridge.
as for stroke, etc...the book dont give any measurements for any struts.
sorry bloke.
steve
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Wed, 31 December 2003 10:52
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There are AE-92 with cartridges and with full strut shocks.
I have AE-92 cartridges made by Monroe in my Corona.
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Thu, 01 January 2004 09:56
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Do you have details for RA28 inserts, just for a reference.
I'm trying to find something with an extended length of around 90mm less than the RA28 items.
Cheers
Joel
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Thu, 01 January 2004 11:07
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jayem, as i mentioned previously, the monroe book i have only mentions that the ae92 has complete struts, and there is no listing for a cartridge. i didn't say there is no such thing as a cartridge for them...it's possible that monroe has discontinued the inserts for them, and changed to just make struts?
RA28 has the same cartridges as the RA60, listed above.
with a 51mm spacer, you can use camira front inserts, or with a 64mm spacer, you can use ST-162 front inserts.
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Thu, 01 January 2004 11:24
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would the st185 with a 40mm or so spacer be correct also?
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Thu, 01 January 2004 11:33
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the stroke on the st185 is 128mm
the stroke on the ra28 is 204mm
to fit the st185 cartridges to your struts, you would need a 77mm spacer, as the body on the st185 cartridge is 328mm, and the body on the ra28 cartridge is 405mm, and the difference there is 77mm.
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Mon, 05 January 2004 01:07
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I'm actually thinking of cutting the strut so I can keep suspension travel.
As my shocks currently are 90mm lower or so, i'd be looking for a shock with the extended length 90mm less than RA28 correct? Then cut the strut housing to suit?
Is there anything with extended length of around 520mm?
CHeers
Joel
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Mon, 05 January 2004 02:09
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If you don't want to cut the strut you could use a spacer at the top to relocate the shock down, Like a big washer on top of the strut...
Cheers
Wilbo
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Mon, 05 January 2004 04:10
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| wilbo666 wrote on Mon, 05 January 2004 15:09 |
If you don't want to cut the strut you could use a spacer at the top to relocate the shock down, Like a big washer on top of the strut...
Cheers
Wilbo
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If you use a spacer at the top your suspension is likely to bottom out especially at 90mm.
Callum
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Mon, 05 January 2004 04:24
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Yeah would prefer to shorten strut to retain suspension travel. I dont know what it is with RA28's but the front end is 90mm lower and its still quite high IMHO. If you look in the avatar thats 90mm lowered.
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Fri, 16 January 2004 02:04
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Someone recently came up with VS commodore shocks (in another thread), can we get the specs on them as well 
Cheers
Wilbo
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Fri, 06 February 2004 01:18
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Does anyone have all the diamentions of the camira inserts? body length, extended length, stroke etc?
Thanks!
Joel
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Fri, 06 February 2004 09:22
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i looked into these shocks for my celica but they dont seem to have the two notches cut out at the top of the shock rod to locate it into the strut top.
WOuld this be a big problem or could i just weld a washer onto the top and locate the shocks that way
Daniel
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Fri, 06 February 2004 10:40
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toyota camry 3/83-86
type T6
Body 346
Comp 366
Extn 525
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VB-VP Commodore poo
type T6
Body 405
Comp 405
Extn 599
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Camira
type T6
Body 354
Comp 354
Extn 504
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SAAB 900
type T6
Body 348
Comp 368
Extn 522
sorry for not replying sooner... didn't get email notifications..hrmmm...
anyways..you cant use VR-VS fronts, cos they are complete struts.
cheers
steve
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Fri, 06 February 2004 11:18
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np mate;)
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Fri, 06 February 2004 12:55
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| Steve-AE86 wrote on Thu, 01 January 2004 22:07 |
RA28 has the same cartridges as the RA60, listed above.
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Hang on a bit, this sounds funny. I thought late Ra2x strut inserts (ie post 75 or 76, I'm not completely up with Ta2 & Ra2) were interchangeable with Ra6x, but were ~20mm shorter IIRC. I'm counting on this, 'cos I have some Ra2x konis waiting to go into the fronts of my ra65 along with some 30mm RCAs.
Are monroe doing somehting dodgy here?
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Fri, 06 February 2004 13:14
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that's what the book says...same part number...
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Sun, 15 February 2004 11:12
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So does anyone actually work in a suspension shop in sydney this could help me too?
Megz
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Mon, 16 February 2004 14:48
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SAAB 900
type T6
Body 348
Comp 368
Extn 522
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WRONG!
Saab 900 shocks are like RWD Toyota rear ones (eye bottom and pin top).
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Tue, 17 February 2004 02:31
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| Steve-AE86 wrote on Sun, 28 December 2003 14:25 |
what details do you need...i just so happen to own a monroe shocker catalogue...which gives all dimensions from length, to width, stroke, etc..
if you want, tell me what you've got, and i'll tell you what will fit, or what will fit with spacers, etc.
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Can you please provide me with the specs on th RAV4 rear, and MA70 rears please
Cheers
Michael B
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Thu, 22 September 2005 00:59
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Sorry to dig up such an old thread.. But does anyone know the length, diamentions etc of a GH sigma front shock?
need to find something to replace it that is around 60 mm shorter.
thanks!
Joel
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Thu, 22 September 2005 02:37
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Try the online catalogs & pdfs on the monroe site - you can look up what you have, get it's part #, then compare it's dimensions/extendedlength/compressedlength with others.
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Thu, 22 September 2005 02:40
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Damn I checked Monroe's site and found some online catalog but only part numbers, no diamentions. But if you say its there i'll keep hunting!
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Re: ne1 here work in a suspension shop
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Thu, 22 September 2005 03:05
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http://www.monroe.com/catalog_lookup/ocl_miscappin fo.asp
Here you go. I did a similar thing a while ago. IIRC, you have to use the online part # search that you already found to get the part # for your current damper, then find out what sort of type it is. Then you can download the .pdf and reference appropriate substitutes (and then have to plug the part # back in to see what car it is for). Hope this helps.
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