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Location: Melbourne
Registered: January 2004
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Quick questions from a new member :)
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Tue, 06 January 2004 15:01
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Hey,
You guys probably have alot of dreamers coming on here, but I just want to make sure you guys dont get the wrong idea - I'm not.
I've been driving around for a while in my parents business cars that theyve let me use, and this year i'll be purchasing my first car. I've turned 18 a few days ago and i'll be getting my P's very damn soon.
I'm looking to purchase my first car near the end of this year. I have around 10-15k to spend, and i'm looking for a factory panda trueno... I'm assuming it would have to be a jap import?
The thought of buying some cut-up and resprayed levin by someone in australia makes me feel robbed of it being my car, as i feel that someone else just put in all the work for me, to come out with a lesser result (fake panda trueno with a motor swap).
with my price range, how realistic this? what do they normally go for? how rare are they?
Thanks in advance,
Tan.
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Location: Perth
Registered: September 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Tue, 06 January 2004 15:43

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Fair enough about you wanting a genuine one over an Aussie one. As they do come with better seats, diff, brakes, motor etc so why not!
10-15k will get you one. Yes they are rare, and not only that, but in japan they are still a car in very high demand so they go for a lot of money.
Personally, depending on how much you end up getting one for, after regeristing it (wont need to be complianced as such) i dont think youd have any left from around 15k..
Others will know more about it than me
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Wed, 07 January 2004 00:40

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I'd personally be buying a stock AE86 Sprinter, get to know the car and build up some experience driving by yourself before you hop straight into the rare Jap one
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Location: Sydney
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Wed, 07 January 2004 00:43

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i just can't see the point of spending 10-15k on a car that ultimately, won't be that quick.
there are much better ways to spend 15k
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Location: Albany WA
Registered: October 2003
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Wed, 07 January 2004 00:52

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PLEASE, if you do get one, don't write it off. Theyre too nice for that. I'd stick with something a bit less.... exotic for a first car. Id recommend buying the Aus spec AE86, driving that around and then start looking for your dream car. That said, you'd be able to build your Aus car into something a lot better than the Jap import for 15 grand. Don't like the seats? Go aftermarket. Mmmmmm..... Brides..... Also, building one up from a cheapo Aus spec means that if you DO come through a corner sideways and wipe out the car on a barrier, you can just buy another one and stick your 4AGZE and the other good bits straight in, having had experience in doing so and having brought the same setup over the pits before.
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Location: here
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Wed, 07 January 2004 05:46

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by any chance, did you deliver tofu for your parents?
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Wed, 07 January 2004 07:01

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If you wanna blow 15k pointlessly down the hole, why not...
JDM is way overrated... And to get something in decent condition will be about 15-20k after rego and slight repairs.
an aus spec chassis with a trueno nose makes no difference.
Some will try to tell you that it's 'not the real thing'. But seriously, take a look at the chassis code.
ALL of them were rolled down the same production line. All of them where the same when they had their sways, shockers, struts, etc.. put in. At this point in time, none destinguished what was levin, trueno, Euro Spec, American spec, GT APEX, Levin, GTV, Kouki SR5 or anything.
For that money, you can afford an LSD, paint job, trueno nose, and an engine conversion of your choice (4agze, 20v, etc). Take your pick.
All in the meanwhile, you can raise some more funds, and get used to the cars geometry and handling. And believe me, when you drive a 4ac to a 4age, you'll really appreciate the vehicle and the power.
[Updated on: Wed, 07 January 2004 07:02]
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Wed, 07 January 2004 09:31

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or get a car like mine from japan for 12k and mod it


personal choice really
importing is a fuckaround... let me assure you
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Location: melbourne
Registered: July 2003
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Wed, 07 January 2004 13:47

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hippy your a idiot, i'll meet you on akinas down hill at 10pm on the 10th
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Location: was adelaide now newcastle
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Wed, 07 January 2004 22:33

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i guess if you really want the trueno then go for it, as some of the others have said, importing can be a painfull and drawn out process, my import 86 took 14 months to arrive, but i have it now ,and im very happy with it, on the plus side many import 86's will come over with quite a few mods already, ok some of these mods may be stuffed but some will still be ok.
amd finally dont let anybody say that there is no difference with a built up aus spec vs jdm, i take great delight in the fact that my garage queen was once tearing arround some dodgy industrial back roads (or perhaps some "mountain pass") before i got it and not being driven by some middle age woman to the local woolies and back, it's all about the soul of the car.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Wed, 07 January 2004 23:50

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Technically if you remove the car bolt for bolt and build it up, there is no reason why an aus spec shell should be inferior to a JDM (only if you use the right parts of course) from a performance perspective.
True, JDM represents the 'true car of legend'. From a 'cult-classic' perspective, an ae86 JDM will always outshine any other varient. A car that was born and bred to race will always hold more reputation than one that started out life as a grocery getter.
JDMhachi had an exceptional point to make. If you are buying an ae86 from a true ae86 enthusiast perspective and are a REAL fan, JDM will always mean more to you. The car will have SOUL, but unfortunately, it will demand a premium for this.
But if you want to get it as a fun daily driver, and like the look and performance of a JDM trueno, then a worked aus spec trueno will not fail to satisfy. The car will still look the same, handle the same, and take off the same. I personally would go this path cause it's cheaper, and chances are, will be easier to find a straight chassis (4ac driven by an old fart barely gives the chassis a workout ).
I do like ae86s A LOT. But to me, it's not the meka of cars. That said, I can't justify spending so much on a JDM. But that's just me.
But if you are a diehard true ae86 enthusiast like ae86drift and JDMhachi (who are both top blokes btw ), then definitely go JDM.
Happy posting..
good luck.
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Location: Albany WA
Registered: October 2003
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 01:57

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This argument about JDM stuff is going nowhere, the chassis is the same so who cares? Its like arguing that a HSV Clubsport is not, in fact, an overfed taxi. Or that the "fairly fresh" Monaro isn't a Commodore. Or stating that the 5.7l pushrod is a marvel of modern engineering.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 03:59

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Thanks for the replys.
I respect all your opinions, but I'm looking for a Trueno. I like its character, its small 'classic' status, and wont depreciate like most other imports will. From what ive seen, theyre also very rare in australia.
IMO With a mocked up aus spec rolla, I wouldent be any better than the 100's of hardcores that drive Type-R stickered pov pack civics on my local roads. I'd MUCH rather drive a standard levin front AE86 than a cut up levin that is trying to look like a trueno.
Ive looked on jap car yard websites, and ive found Truenos go from 350,000 yen (approx $4000 aud), all the way to 1.7 million (20k+ aud.. more than GTR's) for a completley original GT-Apex in panda colours. plain white is fine, the panda examples arenet worth the extra premium i'll have to pay, combined with the fact that you look like you worship intial d.
how much would it cost to bring one in and get it on the roads? would four grand cover it seeing as it comes under the 15yr rule?
ae86drift - very nice car mate. basically what i'm looking for. Are you able to break down the costs of bringing it in for me? did you import it modified or modify it yourself?
Thanks again
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 05:52

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Try to stay clear of the $4000 imports
Seriously you get what you pay for.
My friend had an absolute rust bucket of a JDM ae86 (the car was cheap).
From the outside, it looked SWEET AS. mechanically, it was SWEET AS. But structurally, it was fuked. This JDM thing had been drifted beyond chassis flex. The car simply did not drive right.
He ended up scrapping it for parts. He rebirthed the whole LEVIN into an aus spec shell.
The shell was stripped, prepped and refitted with all the JDM panels, lights, bumpers, mecahnics, and race suspension.
Afterwards, there was no difference between the JDM and Aus Spec AT ALL.
The only way you could tell was the Toyota Motor Corperation Australian plate on the bulkhead (next to the jap manufacturing plate). (BTW, these plates don't mention ANYTHING about it being a levin, trueno, GTV, or GT APEX).
But I tell you what, the car drove a whole lot better.
Something to think about. (Is this car that much of a phoney?)
Also, would you consider buying a JDM junker race trueno, and rebirthing it with a straight aus spec shell (an old woman driving a 4ac wouldn't be giving an ae86 chassis a workout ).
But consider this, if you do the rebirthing option, you can get yourself the quality of the $20k trueno at a fraction of the cost.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 05:58

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oh and one more thing..
you don't have to cut up a levin to put a trueno front in. No structural integrity lost.
it's literally less than 15bolts.
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 07:12

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Quote: | But if you are a diehard true ae86 enthusiast like ae86drift and JDMhachi (who are both top blokes btw ), then definitely go JDM.
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cheeers mate 
JDM is good if you can find a good example
it took me 6 months to find the right car 
then i had to import it
l.m > go to www.jspec.com.au to the "importing" section
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 07:41

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Yeah im aware of that the trueno front end is an easy conversion (its just bolt off bolt on right?).. but i'd MUCH prefer to just have an original. I dont really care if other people cant tell the difference or not, the fact that I know the difference is what counts to me.
I intend to do my fair share of curcuit work, hopefully working my way to the IPRA under 1600 (I think the class champion actually won in an AE86) so disk brakes, etc. coming standard are a big plus for me.
Shcao, your mates car isnt really a phoney imo, as technically it was just a part that was damaged and needed to be replaced (shell) well thats how i'd look at it anyway.
I'll be making sure I buy a sound trueno, of course.. but a 20k trueno is overkill. There is no way i'd modify the 20k trueno i found... It was a 100% factory standard GT-Apex in absolutley mint condition.
When i find out how much i can bring one in for, thats when i can decide how much i'll spend and exactly what ill be looking for.
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 07:45

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My 2 C on this ..
id do this if i was in your shoes ..
For starters - Buy a simple car to get your feet in - to learn how to drive without mum and da beside you .. believe me - my first 12 months alone was like driving with grandma - too scared to ddo anything stupid - though you always have atah little sense of cockyness egging you to go faster there , brake later there ..
Get the experience under your belt before stepping into what seems to eventually be your pride and joy
IN the meantime - get your trueno brought over + rebuild what needs to be rebuilt - while driving your other about .. Youll learn the technical side of your dream car the more hors you spend tinkering with it + get more " feel " for the car and respect ..
I had this with my ta22 - spent Hours just playing with bits - learning how they worked .. It had " soul " as the guys had mentioned . you can see where you did work YOURSELF on it..
Was MEGA hard to let it go - though jeremy i knows taking excellent care of it and shares the same passion i had with it 
then - when you feel confident enough to slip behind thew wheel of your done up beautiful trueno example - have fun 
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 12:32

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I didnt ask you for your opinions on my driving ability, and no amount of words can proove anyones driving ability either, however ive heard some things a few times too often and it begins to bug me as it ends up turning into a conversation i dont want to hear, like "I'd personally be buying a stock AE86 Sprinter, get to know the car and build up some experience driving by yourself before you hop straight into the rare Jap one"
My old man showed me the ropes when I was 13, and i've spent many a time rolling the car quietly down the driveway if you know what I mean..
my first 12 months on my L's, even with my mother sitting next to me was nothing like a 'grandma' (as soon as i was 16, she made me drive like a lunatic in a $100,000 car, in a carpark to get to know how a car felt at, and past, the 'limit') Ive also been karting my whole life, and I drive very high performance cars regulary.
Though I understand what you mean by 'learning the technical side' I have also been an apprentice mechanic at a very well known performance workshop before quitting for school commitments... getting to know the car in that fasion is inevitable for me and will just be a matter of time.
I know it was a just a suggestion, but I hear similar things alot from people who dont know much about me, and i think i need to clear something up. "Buy a simple car to get your feet into", I've heard this way to many times. It makes me laugh. A trueno is, at best, a 140hp car. To me, this a complete and utter joke. think about it for crying out loud! I did my L's in everything from an SLK 230, 330Ci to a C32 AMG, to a (recent addition) 600hp supercharged E55 that you will be able to see at a calder park drag meet sometime very soon.
Being a forum on the internet, most of you will probably dismiss what i've just said as bullshit, but youre free to think what you want to 
I dont tell you the price of eggs in china, and you didnt ask for it... so i'd apreaciate if you didnt tell me what car i should learn to drive in 
Thanks again for the replys
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 13:38

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Good for you wanting a trueno...if I had the money I would buy one too...thats why I'm going to be satisfied with just the aus spec sprinter for now 
Dude, I'm not denying that you havn't driven high performance cars around the place but believe me, experience in that is a hell load different on the road with other people. Take it from a guy that had crashed his car
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Location: East Doncaster, Melbourne
Registered: February 2003
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 13:40

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L.M.
Apreciated, but you didn't have to bite his head off.
If you have been around cars since 13, surly by now you should have a realy good idea about what car you want and how to get it.
And why do you even want a Sprinter anyway? You said yourself 140hp is nothing to you.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2002
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Thu, 08 January 2004 14:03

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having driven all these cars then, are you sure the ae86 really is the car for you then?????...
it's not a very powerful car, nor does it pretend to be. It's just a car with good sports emulation at lower speeds. Even with engine transplants and mods, you'd really not wanna go anything beyond ~220hp...
Not unless you wanna do some extensive work to the rest of the chassis, driveline, brakes. Then it becomes stupidly expensive for such an old car. (and I mean stupidly)
Shouldn't you invest your money in a car with higher limits? There are plenty of cars like the ae86 with the potential to be so much more in a LOT less money.
Say for instance, a Series 5 Rx7
or s14, s13, 180sx.
Whatever the reason, I'm sure you'll carefully think it through. As you said, you are not a dreamer like a lot of newbies, so I'll take your word for it.
Rock on dude!
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Location: melb
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 14:24

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gee I wish I was a spoilt, privileged, private school brat who has too much of daddys money to spend.
then I could drive an overpriced original "panda" - or whatever, and think im better than the guy who put in effort to build his car himself whilst actually earning the money himself.
15k for a mid 80's car with only 86kw, huh. only someone who doesnt know the value of money would think of buying one.
anyway good luck with the F1 career after daddy buys you a ride.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: March 2003
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Location: Ashmore, QLD
Registered: September 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 14:51

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Quote: | L.M.: 'I dont tell you the price of eggs in china, and you didnt ask for it... so i'd apreaciate if you didnt tell me what car i should learn to drive in'
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Take a bit of your own advice, buddy. Did we ask about your no doubt exciting and fulfilling experiences, learning to drive in whatever $100,000 euro bahn-stormer you had your hands on that week?..Uh, no we didn't.
If you dont want to acknowledge or heed the advice of those who have had more experience than you, then don't! The public forum is just that: A PUBLIC FORUM! (A site or page that serves ALL forum members in discussing the said topic, and topic in relation to.)
Nobody asked to have their heads bitten off when they supplied you with experience and knowledge that they have learnt over the years, and just because they arent answering the exact question you are asking (but also giving other options, advice, etc. etc.). It isnt reason to be un-nice or just plain rude, dude.
Dan 'O'
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Location: melb
Registered: May 2002
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Thu, 08 January 2004 15:00

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hehehe, cant let me have any fun 
I dont care if he's nice or not, im soooo jealous
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Thu, 08 January 2004 15:27

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Quote: | A trueno is, at best, a 140hp car. To me, this a complete and utter joke. think about it for crying out loud!
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well dont get it then? i dont understand why you say you want one and then slag it off? if power is in question an ae86 shouldnt even be brought into conversation.
and simon's ae86 made 190hp for the record.
also for the point of conversation
i have driven im my lifetime (driving years = 4.5)
1. dads 1985 corona sr (auto, learned road rules)
2. mums hyundai excel (i learned manual in this)
3. ae86 trueno (my first car, bought nov 2003)
and im a responsible driver. 
also dont judge a person for what the own/earn
its not a bad thing to have privledges
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2003
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Thu, 08 January 2004 15:47

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I wish I had privileges.
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Fri, 09 January 2004 01:43

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LM - i thoroughly apologise for not being a psychic to know what your past has been when it comes to driving differnt cars , and conditions ..
Sorry for also trying to express a point of view to what i thought was another true toyota enthusiast ..
And sorry for trying to give you what i thought would be good advice to someone whos starting to Drive on their own on the roads ..
Once again .. Sorry
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: January 2004
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Fri, 09 January 2004 03:18

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I really didnt mean for it to sound like i'm biting someones head off. Sorry if you took it that way, i'll be more careful next time 
When i said 140hp at best, i meant standard power as i was aware the japanese versions had around 130ps or therereabouts and left some room for error as i didnt want somebody correcting me saying that is has XXX.XXhp .
I'm 'slagging' the sprinter off, I was merley saying that it is NOT too powerful of a car to drive on my P's in.
I wasnt telling you mu fulfilling life experiences or bragging about 'bahn stormers' or trying to show you how much experience i had on the roads by listing these cars, i was trying to give you an idea of what i think 140 odd hp - quite easy to learn in, i am quite capable of controlling alot more power than that. If i were to have an accident on the road, its very very unlikley that it would have been that the car is too fast.
When i said 'complete and utter joke' you should keep it in its context. I was refering to the implication that i should learn in a slower car.
I'm not buying this car because of a cartoon, I'm buying it because i like it. As i said before, i prefer the white, but the panda colours also look good.
chrisss:"gee I wish I was a spoilt, privileged, private school brat who has too much of daddys money to spend.
then I could drive an overpriced original "panda" - or whatever, and think im better than the guy who put in effort to build his car himself whilst actually earning the money himself.
15k for a mid 80's car with only 86kw, huh. only someone who doesnt know the value of money would think of buying one."
Youve got me all sussed out dont you?
you sir, are a fucking tool.
This year is my FIRST year of attending a private school, I've done TWELVE years of public school education.
I prefer the 'white' thanks 
I've worked very fucking hard myself for this money, and you are a typical dickhead who just assumes my parents pay for everything. Well they dont, and you know what? its not uncommon.
The 12k-15k was a $3,000 difference that my parents will give me if I acheive a certain result on my TER... or a brand new european car that i would be allowed to drive until the payments were finished, which i declined. 12k of that is money i've earned 100% myself, thank you very much.
No apologies to chrisss if i sounded rude etc.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: January 2004
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Fri, 09 January 2004 04:13

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Yeh i have to admit its a shock to the system that someone of our age can save 12-15,000......it serious is unheard of....+ all of us are jealous lol...
Its taken me from november to the end of the year to save 2,500 so i guess i could understand how hard u worked....
Unlike u, I AMDIT YES THATS RIGHT I ADMIT! that i started likeing truenos from Initial D....yeh thats right...but i don't care. I'm not what I like to call a Daytona scrub (this is the kiddies that think that they can bounce off walls at 210km/hr and still drive in reality people.....or I can drift by just turning the wheel person) I understand that theres more to driving than turning a wheel as easy as Takumi does or how daytona drives....and I'm experiencing that now.....
Kudos dude! hope u find your trueno...its your money, u seemed to have worked hard for it so buy whatever u fkn want.
P.S - Private schools are so fkn over-rated...they only care about your parents bank balance...the deeper it is, the better u achieve....
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Location: Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Fri, 09 January 2004 05:21

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If i did'nt buy my corolla and just worked my arse off non stop
i would of had almost 20k in the bank and im 19 this year and all that money is from 3 casual jobs and working around school
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Location: East Doncaster, Melbourne
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Location: Sydney
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Fri, 09 January 2004 07:18

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Stuff the trueno, get yourself an MR2.
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Location: Sydney
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Fri, 09 January 2004 07:18

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hotrolla wrote on Fri, 09 January 2004 16:21 | If i did'nt buy my corolla and just worked my arse off non stop
i would of had almost 20k in the bank and im 19 this year and all that money is from 3 casual jobs and working around school
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Pimping your ass doesnt count as a job baby brother
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Location: brisbane
Registered: August 2003
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Fri, 09 January 2004 10:43

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I once read a quote theat said "What makes us human is thinking we are better drivers than everyone else".
If this doesnt apply to this thread then keep an eye out for "Wrecking Truneo" in about 8 months time.
I think most people have wasted their time for even replying.
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Fri, 09 January 2004 14:09

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Kids, please try to keep it clean ok.... no personal attacks, we are all friends here with a comon interest - Toyotas.
Now, as for my thoughts. Why bother with an AE86? Sure people will be able to go, "Wow, a sprinter. Do you drift?" 
My thoughts, and my actions, have shown i can get some pretty decent performance out of a car that costs about 5-10 times less.... AE71 Corolla.
Have a look at mine here:
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=19077&start=0&rid=883&S=0e5a009058c2 5df234547fe97d17e5f7
Its soooo cheap, that you can smash it, bash it, thrash it, learn in it, and have fun without worrying about destroying a classic car whilst learning to drive and modify cars.
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Location: Brisbane
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Fri, 09 January 2004 14:59

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THE WITZL wrote on Sat, 10 January 2004 01:09 | My thoughts, and my actions, have shown i can get some pretty decent performance out of a car that costs about 5-10 times less.... AE71 Corolla.
Its soooo cheap, that you can smash it, bash it, thrash it, learn in it, and have fun without worrying about destroying a classic car whilst learning to drive and modify cars.
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I agree with Witzl totally ... even I only get to thrash mine on the track but not on the road - too easy to smash things up.
I'm now considering a second project that is only a beater and one that can be thrashed to kingdom come.
A done up KE70's the way to go I reckon but unfortunately all the mods you can do on a budget would concern a 4AG upgrade + Sprinter suspension such that you are basically getting a Sprinter except the body + chassis is a KE70 ...
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Location: Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Sat, 10 January 2004 02:19

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15k?
Damn i could buy 3 gen 2 camrys with that money.
And all of them would be newer than ur import.
Still if you like the ae86 good for you, i just don't see why you should spend so much more to import a "genuine" panda one.
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Location: Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Sat, 10 January 2004 08:43

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15k, u can get a 180sx with that kinda of money?
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Sat, 10 January 2004 11:45

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15k can get an rx impreza.
can get you a series 5 rx7.
can get you s13,s14(just).
can get you a r32,r33 skyline.
can get you a gen3 honda prelude,
can get you a mx5.
can get you a mr2 sw20.
can get you a host of other desirable jap cars.
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Location: Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Sun, 11 January 2004 01:54

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are rx any good? fwd or awd?
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Location: Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Sun, 11 January 2004 01:56

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lancer vrx fwd or awd?
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Location: Sydney
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Sun, 11 January 2004 04:19

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fwd
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Location: Albany WA
Registered: October 2003
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Mon, 12 January 2004 12:00

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Please be aware that the AE86 is likely to bee much less predictable and "edgy" than the vehicles you have listed as those you learnt to drive in. You don't have the same safety features and driver aids to fall back on if & when you do overcook it. However, being the highly competent and experienced driver you are, and having your mechanic apprentice background to fall back on to really learn the car, I have no doubt in your abilities to drive the vehicle to the edge. Also, I'd be very interested in your mother's qulifications. If she did indeed get you to drive "like a lunatic" in a carpark, I would recommend you cease association with her immediatly as such antisocial behavior is not tolerated in a modern society & it would be a terrible loss if such a fine, distinguished driver such as yourself was killed or seriously maimed as a result of being in the vehicle with her driving.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2002
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Mon, 12 January 2004 12:54

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hahaha... she sounded a bit 'over the top so to say'..
further more.. how did you push a car to the limit in a parking lot??? I always thought they were a little to small for this.
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Location: Albany WA
Registered: October 2003
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Re: Quick questions from a new member :)
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Tue, 13 January 2004 10:24

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Perhaps our mutual friend can inform us where this carpark is so that a reputable Toymods member can inspect it for purposes of determining factuallity. Furthermore, I would appreciate it if he furnished the name and contact details of this "very well known performance workshop" so we can verify this detail of his barrage also. Sound fair?
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Location: Albany WA
Registered: October 2003
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: June 2003
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Tue, 20 January 2004 05:08
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WHY, Why are you still 18, you mentioned in the other forums youre 19 and have no car and drives their parents Ford Falcon.... some ppl dont know themselves..
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