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adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Wed, 07 January 2004 02:55
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What makes of adjustable upper strut mounts do people out there have ? I have only been able to find that noltec make one to fit the ae86 . and every time i call someone about these the price changes from $350 - $440 .
The strut that the mount needs to fit is a s13 koni sport , converted to coilover , 14mm shaft size ...
Help
Adam
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Wed, 07 January 2004 03:14
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Noltec, K-MAC (I think), and also a company in the US which is very affordable even after postage... www.technotoytuning.com
Was it hard to fit the S13 shocks to the sprinter?
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Wed, 07 January 2004 04:17
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TurboRA28
Thanks for the link , with the Aus dollar as it is there about $220ish , which is alot cheaper than the others i have priced so far . With the s13 front swap it would be easier in your model of car because of the lower arm length , to keep the correct roll centre , arm angle , you could maybe keep the lower arm and just find a different ball joint as i think the ra uses the same size ball joint as the spirnter etc . which is to small for the s13 hub . most people i guess would just cut the s13 lower arm ,and add a rose joint to the arm end. redrill the castor arm rod mounts and antiroll bar hole to the arm . But it looks abit dodge for engineers . the strut hub length/travel and weight vs ae86/cressida/celica is the big advantage and $$$ of the conversion till you add 300zxtt four spots with 280x30mm discs then the weight is the heavier . Just also ask statts he runs a move heavly modified s13 front set up with rose joints arms etc in his ae86 . Or you could go s14 for the five stud hubs . There are lots of ways and info on the net about brake conversions to hubs you can have from 280x24mm disc to 315x30mm bmw m3 discs with gtr calipers .
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Wed, 07 January 2004 05:46
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Yeah I ordered some RCA's from technotoytuning and ended up $100 less than anything I could find in australia even after postage costs.
They were prompt to deliever also.
Mmmm very interesting about that front end upgrade you've done. I'll have to research that more 
Were the shocks around about the correct length? So many aftermarket S13 shocks out there, be good having them in place.
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Wed, 07 January 2004 05:56
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TurboRA28
The shock body and length is the same standard as a trd set up in a ae86 , which means the standard s13 shock can be used as a short stroke shock . i have the measurements at home i will post them later . from memory the travel is 190mm fully extended with them running at 85-95mm at the sprinters correct lowered ride height .
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Wed, 07 January 2004 06:03
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Interesting... sounding like I should be looking into this..
As currently I have some 300zxtt 4 spot alloy calipers and the 280x30 rotors which i'm trying to fit onto a toyota strut and hub of some sort.
Also on the list of projects is short stroke struts as I want to get back some suspension travel.
Sounds like the S13 upgrade could kill lots of birds.
So the hardest part would be getting balljoints/control arms sorted out.
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Wed, 07 January 2004 11:38
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Cameron_Datto
The track on my car is wider to match the rear diff width , roll centres etc . And yes you can run as much 40 offset i think , i run 38 offest nissan dr30 or works rims , normal s13 offset . Some s13 rims don't fit due to being the non turbo type , which they only fit the standard single piston calipers . I know a s13 which has the 280x24mm n/a 300zx brake alloy calipers set up so he can use stock rims .
Turbo ra28
Would you know the ra arm centre to centre arm length ? the s13 arms are 32mm depending on which model i dont think there is a difference turbo to non turbo . Sorry but i haven't seen a ra up close in ten years . Also is there more strut tower room than a sprinter ? because if there is maybe standard strut units could be used not coilovers , the sprinter towers are to small by 10mm unless a upper mount was used that had silly amounts of caster like 18" . Which calipers the alloy or steel type do you have . How much nissan do you want in you car too ?
The latest price on noltec uppers is $385 , that makes four different prices now ,!!!
Has anyone out there used the kmac ones , i have heard that the suspension bump travel is shortened due to the size of the units ?
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Wed, 07 January 2004 13:02
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Just out of interest i just bought the technotoytuning.com ('T3') ones and i got them in a couple days from the US of A.
They seem excellent quality and will fit them soon Best of all they were so cheap compared to cusco etc
Alem
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Wed, 07 January 2004 13:13
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I got them to and they look very pretty unfortunatly my car isnt finished being painted yet so i carnt play.
Brad
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Wed, 07 January 2004 21:07
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Sprinta
purpleminiep
Thanks for that , i have emailed them and will check for a reply today , is just i cannot believe that there are no more manufactures of these compaired the the amount of toyotas out there . I think i will get the technotoytuning t3 ones , but maybe a drawing of them with measurement will have to be posted for people to build there own .
Thanks
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Wed, 07 January 2004 22:43
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improvedae86 ,
The RA28 control arms are 30cm long from pivot point to ball joint.
I've currently got adjustable strut tops (Noltec), and if going for the S13 suspension wouldn't mind getting a set of coilovers so I have more room to adjust camber etc.
The calipers I have are the alloy ones that accept the 30mm rotor.
I've heard the K-MAC items bend easily also.
I was reading a website someone put S13 struts on an AE86 and used a 'ball joint adapter', any idea what that would be?
Cheers
Joel
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Thu, 08 January 2004 00:01
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Turbo Ra28
A ball joint adapter is a machined collar that fits over the toyota ball joint to resize it i think , i wouldn't use one of these , to scary at 200plus with big brakes . Now with the hub offset vs the toyota strut and vs how much camber you want vs width of the ra vs rim offset . I would guess that you would need the extra cm or so , in the arm length , you could use ta22 lower arms which are a 31cm center to which is a little secret that a few of the toyota workshops keep to themselfs for cambering sprinters {opps sorry }. or you could bolt it in with the car and try the standard toyota arms and some nissan arms s13 or bluebird etc . Which state are you in ? I will be doing another conversion to a ae86 on the weekend using sr20det s13 280mm disc and i will be trying to get away without using a special ball joint and using a ta22 arm . I have a plan for this using a press in ball joint arm hole spacer machined and pressed into the arm then welded so that the standard nissan ball joint can be used , which has more height so to give a lower arm without spacers roll center adjusted etc .
Also what wheels are you using ?
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Thu, 08 January 2004 00:14
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Mate wish I was in Melbourne to see it first hand. But up here in Sydney.
I'd be very interested to hear how your idea of the ball joint goes.
I have 15x7" ROH relfex wheels.
Cheers
Joel
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Thu, 08 January 2004 00:21
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Joel
I will send you a photo on saturday . .
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Thu, 08 January 2004 01:36
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Nice
Do our engineers not allow rose joints?
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Thu, 08 January 2004 01:47
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Thu, 08 January 2004 02:26
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How strong do the technotoytuning.com tops look - I'm after a set for a rally car..
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Thu, 08 January 2004 03:20
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Nice
Do our engineers not allow rose joints?
Not in this state , nice kit , trick looking lower arms .
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Fri, 09 January 2004 22:48
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Sending you the photos
Turbo Ra28
Worked it out , easier than the first time .
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Re: adjustable upper strut mounts ae86 { help }
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Sat, 10 January 2004 02:36
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Cheers mate, cant wait to see them!
joel_fitzgerald@hotmail.com
Thanks
Joel
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