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Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Thu, 08 January 2004 14:17
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Here's a couple of pics, taken yesterday.
The engine bay is basically all done now, with just a couple of minor things to finish up.
We were going to fit buttons to the existing AE-82 steering wheel I had in the car, but as it turned out the Altezza SXE-10 / RS200 one bolts straight on, so that's what it now has. (minus the airbag!)
I gave the car a fifteen minute odd drive today and it's not too bad, though still needs a little fiddling to get it all right. The water temp behaves very well, but the engine has a few rough spots that we think we know the cause of. There's a slight lump to the idle, we're not sure if it's supposed to have that or not.
One of the problems is the fuel pressure, as we're just not sure what it's supposed to be. (The Altezza's have the FPR in the tank, not on the fuel rail)
It seems to run okay with 60psi, but we're still trying different settings.
The HID headlight work just fine, though I haven't tried them at night yet.
The radiator is a custom made unit from a local company, as is most of the rest of the water cooling gear from their off the shelf gadgets.
The EFI computer sits in that black box on the FL of the engine bay, and it's all been modified so that most of the relays sit in there out of the way.
The battery is one of those compact Odessy types, and it sits right under the inlet manifold.
The brakes are very bad at the moment, it just won't stop very well at all so we have to try some smaller master cylinders.
The dashboard is nearly done, and we can't get the Altezza fuel gauge working so we're sticking in the AE-86 one to the side of the Altezza panel. (The fuel sender goes to the bodywork computer, which then sends a multiplex signal to the panel. All too hard!!)
The speedo is also a little tricky, as the Altezza's use the ABS sensor from one front wheel to feed a signal to the ABS computer, which then sends a signal to the panel. We're working on how to get one of the ABS sensors working with one of the front wheels ....
So for the moment, my car has gone from about 340,000km odd down to 12,607km, and is there to stay for a while. 
And oh yeah, I have to get on the lathe and make up a shifter knob. 
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Perth
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Thu, 08 January 2004 14:25
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That looks awesome Bill!
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Perth, Western Australia
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December 2002
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Thu, 08 January 2004 14:43
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Off topic Bill, what struts and lower control arms are you using, and what camber and castor are you running, please?
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Thu, 08 January 2004 15:09
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| CLG wrote on Fri, 09 January 2004 01:43 |
Off topic Bill, what struts and lower control arms are you using, and what camber and castor are you running, please?
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It's got Cusco front suspension all through it, with Cashiew struts - All from Japan from when I used to fly there often.
I run about 3deg neg castor and about 1deg neg camber.
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Thu, 08 January 2004 15:10
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I love that dash.... *drools* working or not it looks the shit! 
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Thu, 08 January 2004 16:16
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looks awesome, very neat install.
Question. is it auto,manual,tiptronic?
thanks
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Oyster bay NSW
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Thu, 08 January 2004 16:32
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 looks fantastic wish I had the money to buy a front cut and do that to the old sprinter 
Bill have you thought about getting a Programmable Integrated controller (PIC) chip done to control the dash, simple program with Analogue to Digital convert chip for fuel sender and pulse counter from the ABS sensor.
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Ashmore, QLD
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Thu, 08 January 2004 19:16
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nice work mate!
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Thu, 08 January 2004 19:22
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That's dope savvy!
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March 2003
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Thu, 08 January 2004 21:51
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Cool! Looking Good Bill!
You using the Altezza box too?
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Thu, 08 January 2004 23:21
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Great to see some thinking outside the square Bill. Well Done!
With the Fuel gauge, when I did a dash conversion once we retrofitted the "back" of the gauge to a newer dash? Is that possible, to modify the rear of the 86 gauge and fit it into the altez. dash facia?
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Dubbo
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April 2003
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Fri, 09 January 2004 11:32
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that's awsome!!! Love the dash!
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Fri, 09 January 2004 11:36
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that's awsome!!! Love the dash!
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Fri, 09 January 2004 12:51
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goddam, that is the best thing i have ever seen, hope u get it sorted fully soon my friend, and then send it over to nz for me 
haha, just kidding, but honestly, that is one of the coolest things i have ever seen
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Brisbane / Gold Coast
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Fri, 09 January 2004 13:36
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KOFFEE-BLACK - Yes, it's the stock Altezza 5-speed automatic gearbox.
Jase - The original AE-86 fuel gauge is now sitting up in the top-right corner of the spare space of the instrument panel. Just gotta get a light onto it now.
AE95 - It works like a regular slushbox or a Tiptronic, depends where you have the selector.
Crostek - Not sure, it may not be that simple with the way the panel & ECU(s) work. It's all pretty weird and the electronics guy is very darn clever ...
wagonist - We know how to make it work, we just have to work out where to put the sensor.
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Sun, 11 January 2004 11:18
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i love this engine
if i had 10k i would do this exact engine mod and get the trd gauges and a h-plate shifter and an aftermarket ECU and some BIG brakes and a set of BIG BALLS to drive it
nice work bill, any reference material of other cars with the conversion?
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Sun, 11 January 2004 13:17
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Ahhhh, awesome. I was going to do this conversion, until a *certain nameless* wrecker *lost* my engine. I often wondered how it would have been if I'd gone that way, and it's great to see some happy snaps of your attempt. Top effort!
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Sun, 11 January 2004 13:47
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ae86drift - There's at least a few other cars around the world that also have the blacktop 3SGE's, though I haven't heard of anyone anywhere that kept the automatic box behind them.
FWIW we didn't get the master cylinder size right the first time, so that big brake conversion that was going to wait is now going to start on Tuesday. So at the worst case we only have to do a cylinder change once for the fronts.
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Mon, 12 January 2004 12:02
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Hey Bill a while ago you mentioned that you wanted to use some spacers between your crossmember and chassis. Did you end up doing this and if so what RCA's did you end up using?
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November 2002
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Mon, 12 January 2004 13:35
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Looks good, sounds terrible 
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Brisbane
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November 2002
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Mon, 12 January 2004 13:42
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I often wondered how it would have been if I'd gone that way
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It would have been terrible, having had a close look it seems like a bastard of a job to me.
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Melbourne
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December 2003
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Mon, 12 January 2004 22:58
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Blacktop 3sge?I take it its out of a lexus (Is300)goin by the altezza name. What are they all about.Whats the stock power output, AFM or MAP. Can someone let me know what they're all about? Nice conversion too mate
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Brisbane / Gold Coast
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May 2002
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Re: Altezza 3SGE into Sprinter nearly finished.
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Tue, 13 January 2004 00:52
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Cool1 - Yes, it's got 10mm spacers between the crossmember & chassis rails. The RCA's are the ones that have been in it for years, about 300mm thick i think.
StuC - No, it's out of an RS200 Altezza. About 195hp I think, and they use a hot-wire AFM, which you can just see in the inlet pipe next to the RH headlight.
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