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 Renault Clio Sport vs Toyota *what* ??
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Sat, 10 January 2004 09:52
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I just had a ride in this little pocket rocket I have to give it to the frogs, this is a frikkin good ride... sticks on the road, good corner speed and fcking chuckable as !!!
what kinda toyotas match up to these little cars ?
do the 6 gen celicas go as well ? havent been in one of these before ...
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Re: Renault Clio Sport vs Toyota *what* ??
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Sat, 10 January 2004 10:39
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they put it up against the corrolla sportivo in fast fours.
the clio beat it on all counts except interior space, but the clio felt better inside.
i wanna see a clio sport vs 206 gti shootout.
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Sat, 10 January 2004 11:30
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On the track, the Clio gives the Celica a good run for its money!
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Re: Renault Clio Sport vs Toyota *what* ??
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Sun, 11 January 2004 00:04
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Shame the Clio is so ugly ...
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Sun, 11 January 2004 08:31
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well I got a price on one and it was almost $37K on the road so I dont think they will be giving away so you have to worry about betraying any toyota offerings ..
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Sun, 11 January 2004 10:12
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| Nark wrote on Sat, 10 January 2004 22:30 |
On the track, the Clio gives the Celica a good run for its money!
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are u trying to tell me that the celica is better max ?!?!?!!?
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Sun, 11 January 2004 10:42
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if it beat the sportivo, why would the celica have much more of a chance?
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Sun, 11 January 2004 10:45
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werd!
the clio is rock but its so fucking expensive....
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Sun, 11 January 2004 11:00
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its so fcking expensive cuz its such a good performer...
nice nice nice ride...
excellent car to get instead of a s15 or rexie !
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Mon, 12 January 2004 01:14
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| speakafreaka wrote on Sun, 11 January 2004 21:42 |
if it beat the sportivo, why would the celica have much more of a chance?
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The Corolla Sportivo weighs 200kg more than the Celica.
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Mon, 12 January 2004 01:38
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| Les wrote on Sun, 11 January 2004 19:00 |
excellent car to get instead of a s15 or rexie !
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Except its not exactly in the same league in regards to speed or style. Yes its fun, but I'd be damned if I'd take it over an S15 200SX.
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Re: Renault Clio Sport vs Toyota *what* ??
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Mon, 12 January 2004 01:41
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| Nark wrote on Mon, 12 January 2004 09:14 |
| speakafreaka wrote on Sun, 11 January 2004 21:42 |
if it beat the sportivo, why would the celica have much more of a chance?
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The Corolla Sportivo weighs 200kg more than the Celica.
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Actually, its no more than 100kg, even less depending on the spec of the Celica, but you get the idea.
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Mon, 12 January 2004 01:58
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take a ride in one !
i used to think they are pussy cars !!!
bit of a hair dressers car, but i was shitting myself when my mate drove round corners at speed..
Thumbs up !
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Mon, 12 January 2004 02:01
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yeah, but $37k? 
that's a good condition TT 6-speed mkIV
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Mon, 12 January 2004 02:59
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Hey Les, come down to Canberra and I'll give you back some of your faith in the old Silly Cars...
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Mon, 12 January 2004 03:25
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ahh, its been too long without a real car !!!!
will endeavour to get the silly back on the road, and max u can teach me to drift properly without hitting poles ! lol
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Mon, 12 January 2004 03:30
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Drift properly...methinks you need some good suspension, an LSD and a racetrack with REAL big runoff areas 
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Mon, 12 January 2004 11:08
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good work bro... the new ones look similar to those old skool ones !
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Mon, 12 January 2004 11:36
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| Les wrote on Mon, 12 January 2004 14:25 |
will endeavour to get the silly back on the road, and max u can teach me to drift properly without hitting poles ! lol
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Me? Drift?
As fun as it is, I only do that on dirt. It's too dangerous on the street. But I can show you how fast a 20 year old car can corner. 
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Mon, 12 January 2004 11:54
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and have me shit in my pants !! bring it on.. you are still in canberra ? not coming back to syd ?
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Mon, 12 January 2004 14:50
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ah, the original hot hatch goes to the first golf gti's thank you very much 
1600cc efi inline 4's... twodoor.. 0-100 just under 9 seconds... not bad for a 1960's car...
then the puegot 205gti's and the renault 5 turbo... but wasn't the r5t a mid mount rear drive... or maybe i'm thinking of the proper clio sport which wasn't released in aus with the mid mount 3.5 v6 
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Mon, 12 January 2004 21:46
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| Les wrote on Mon, 12 January 2004 22:54 |
and have me shit in my pants !! bring it on.. you are still in canberra ? not coming back to syd ?
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Not coming back any time soon. Canberra's got better roads anyway... Lots of high speed on/off ramps....
| charliechalk wrote on Tue, 13 January 2004 01:50 |
or maybe i'm thinking of the proper clio sport which wasn't released in aus with the mid mount 3.5 v6
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I wet my pants when I first found out about the Clio V6... You see the video of Tiff Needel driving one?
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Mon, 12 January 2004 22:00
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who is that ?
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Mon, 12 January 2004 23:21
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He's a crazy mofo with the best job in the world!!!
A sample of his work:
http://nark.is-a-geek.com/pub/Pix/Cars/Videos/Top% 20Gear/
If you're gonna leech, please delay it to after midnight! You can use GetRight to do this...
Anyone know where movies.taner.net went?!?!
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Tue, 13 January 2004 05:57
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hehe I really upset a guy in his new Clio Sport at the lights. He had no chance. He looked very pissed off! Once I slowed down to watch him go past. He must have thought he had something real special.
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Tue, 13 January 2004 06:44
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| Les wrote on Tue, 13 January 2004 17:07 |
straight line no worries, but prob not on the twisties man !
Yeah You are probably right, but a big deal is made about it's so called straight line speed.
whats a 6mge anyway bro
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Straight 6, 3.0 ltr twin cam from japan. Was used in Toyota crowns and the like in 87 or so. Heaps of grunt and the easiest engine swap for a MK2 supra.
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Tue, 13 January 2004 08:15
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sweetass
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Tue, 13 January 2004 09:45
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| charliechalk wrote on Tue, 13 January 2004 01:50 |
but wasn't the r5t a mid mount rear drive...
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Thats what I thought but couldn't find any evidence to confirm. Of course the dream renault would be either an A110 alpine Gordini.
"This new car was the A110 Berlinette Tour de France, named after a successful run with the A108 in the 1962 event. Starting with a 956cc engine of 51bhp, the same chassis and body developed with relatively minor changes over the years to the stage where, by 1974, the little car was handling 1800cc engines developing 180bhp+: with a competition weight for the car of around 12.5cwt(620Kg), performance was very high!"
Or a R8 or R10 Gordini. 1135cc, 11000rpm redline, get them down to 570kgs in full trim
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Tue, 13 January 2004 10:08
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My first car was an R10 and my dad used to rally gordinis. I had a side draft delorto carb on it that was nearly as big as the rest of the motor. It used to fly until I blew it up running on av gas.
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Tue, 13 January 2004 10:49
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I learnt to drive in an R10 and was first car, twin webbers though on 1600. I know where there is a Gordidni fully restored under cloth covers and two brand new R8 shells and enough new stock to build. Have offered lots for them but they won't part. 
Got to love rear engines. If you can drive them you could just about drive anything.
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Tue, 13 January 2004 11:25
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why is it so hard to drive a rear engine mate ??
is it because of the balance of the car ?
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Wed, 14 January 2004 09:15
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The weight of the engine acting like a pendulum at the rear. Oversteer city. Lots of opposite lock and accelerator action. Backing off or braking at the wrong time brings the rear back around in a rapid way
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Wed, 14 January 2004 10:14
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ahhhh
and a mid engine ?? similar but not as extreme ? more balanced i guess ?
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Wed, 14 January 2004 12:14
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"centre of gravity"
buzz word but does actually do great things for handling
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Wed, 14 January 2004 12:26
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the renault 5 turbo was mid engined rear wheel drive. The engine was also mounted north-south configuration and was mounted in front of the gear box. They were even intercooled but it seems a bit sketchy as the intercooler was also part of the inlet manifold and was very close to the engine. The exhaust manifold is awesome I wish I could show you the pics.
these would shit all over the golf Gti (although I still have respect for the gti)
Practically all they had in common with the N/A fwd and front engine renault 5 was the front bonnet.
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