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AE86 T50 clutch Thu, 15 January 2004 10:11 Go to next message
Hey

I've just bought a new clutch kit for my car. Its a 4 puck solid centre with heavy duty pressure plate and a new bearing. now i have been told the t50 is easily broken and with a clutch like mine i should have a steady supply of t50's. is this true? should i look for a different clutch such as a spring centre one?

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Re: AE86 T50 clutch Thu, 15 January 2004 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
in my understanding > yes you dont need that kinda clutch with a t50 behind an engine with at MOST 250 horses and using it will cause issues with the t50

id stick with a exedy heavy duty like im getting

but depends on the power and application your going to be using the car for
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Re: AE86 T50 clutch Thu, 15 January 2004 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ahhh, the old word TREATMENT rings a bell here! If (like I'm guessing) you've got a 'normal' 4AG, if you show it some respect, it'll last just fine. The only T50s I've seen dead behind NA 4AG's are for 3 reasons:
1. 7800rpm dumps constantly
2. flat shifting
3. no oil in the box(!)

That is of course presuming the box is in SOME kind of order to start with! Evil or Very Mad
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Re: AE86 T50 clutch Thu, 15 January 2004 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, that's the other thing - there is no NEED to use a puck clutch with an NA 4AG - Direct Clutch can do you a 2500lb pressure plate which will work just fine with a full face clutch, and be easy to drive too. Way back when I had a T50 in my car, I consumed 2 exedy's (each lasted a few days!), then the Direct Clutch one lasted a couple of months, when the T50 died (mine's turbo.) I'd personally recommend this clutch Evil or Very Mad
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Re: AE86 T50 clutch Thu, 15 January 2004 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Please people, try not to destroy your good T50's they are already getting rare and there are plenty of people who have a good use for and wont kill them. Eg Clubman builders
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Re: AE86 T50 clutch Thu, 15 January 2004 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ah, so if i drive normally it should hold up!
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Re: AE86 T50 clutch Thu, 15 January 2004 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just try the heavy duty pressure plate and maybe just a normal clutch disc. that way you havent lost out altogether. see if that holds up. bit of a hassle changing if it doesnt though..
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Re: AE86 T50 clutch Thu, 15 January 2004 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes, do be kind to the world's remaining supply of T50's Evil or Very Mad

And hard? Pfft! It takes about 30 mins to take a T50 out, even less with a hoist! Very Happy
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Re: AE86 T50 clutch Thu, 15 January 2004 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
30 mins out, and how long back in? well then youre talking over an hour there i think, plus i would have to lay on my back to do it, and to me thats a PITA.

either way, we are in agreeance, there is a finite numer of t50s left, especially with alot of clubman dudes trying to steal them all from us so take care. no offence to them, clubmans are awesome.. but theyre ours!
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Re: AE86 T50 clutch Fri, 16 January 2004 07:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Quote:

Its a 4 puck solid centre with heavy duty pressure plate and a new bearing


I had the exact same thing in my sprinter, an exedy HD 4 puck.

Heres some advice:

sell it whiles its still in the wrapping, they are a pain the is arse. General driving becomes a pain. It squeeks (brass button), it doesn't slip AT ALL! so you can't hill start or take off without bunny hoping the car.

If its a track car, then its a different story. They are very fun when driven hard, extremely quick pickup etc.
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Re: AE86 T50 clutch Fri, 16 January 2004 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmmm, my issue with the exedy 3 puck clutch I had was that it was too EASY to drive! This obviously reflects the pathetic amount of clamp the pressure plate in the kit actually had, and I could do nothing but laugh at the guy who sold it insisting that 'no, no, you must promise you won't bring it back to me because it's undrivable, you do realise it's a racing clutch only...'. That clutch kit lasted 2 days before the slip became bad enough you couldn't even drive to the local shop - and I didn't treat it rough, just applied some turbo torque to it Evil or Very Mad I really can't talk you out of these clutches quickly enough! Oh, and if you don't like lying down, getting dirty, changing a clutch, etc., then you're not much of a car enthusiast are ya Evil or Very Mad Very Happy
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Re: AE86 T50 clutch Fri, 16 January 2004 10:29 Go to previous message
mrshin, well yeah youre right, but my attitude at the moment is skewed, but the fact that ive just about finnished a full engine, drivetrain and suspension conversion on my mk golf. in the backyard. in the dirt. i dont mind lying on my back, i just dont like the dirt and the ants, biting me.
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