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Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Wed, 21 January 2004 02:14
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Hey guys
I got done speeding the middle of 2003, 103 in a 50 zone. I paid the huge fine and my licence was suspended for 6 months (automatic disqualification for excessive speeding offence) plus an additional 3 months (loss of all demerit points).
I was informed in the letter they sent to me that i could elect a good behaviour period for the additional 3 months and just take the 6 months. The 6 months are due to end at the start of febraury so i called up the RTA just then to elect to take the good behaviour period and they have said that it is too late to make an election and i should have done so before the suspension period started.
The letter i received says something similar to this, however it implied that i should make the election before the ADDITIONAL 3 month suspension period from feb till may. Basicaly the letter was ambigious.
Either way, i don't see how this should matter because the good behaviour period doesn't start until feb anyway so i don't see why i shouldn't be able to make the election now!?
anyway my question to you guys is, what should i do? i really don't want to have to endure not driving for another 3 months cause of some administrative bull***t. Should i right a letter to the RTA or maybe take it to court somehow?
I talked to two different RTA guys on the phone and one said it should be ok and the second one said it is too late.
thanks for your help
hobbs
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Sydney
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June 2003
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Re: Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Wed, 21 January 2004 02:50
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Dont take it to court yet. Write a nice letter explaining the situation and how you got confused. Wait for a reply. You will be amazed at how far a nice letter can get you. 
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June 2002
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Re: Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Wed, 21 January 2004 06:36
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I think the longer your off the road the better
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Location:
Epping NSW
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October 2002
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Re: Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Wed, 21 January 2004 06:50
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yeah, thanks 'stumbles', i asked for advice not moral judgment...
although it is not an excuse, it was on a quiet, wide, straight, long road in good conditions and was one of the rare times when i decided to give it that bit extra. And i've paid the price for it.
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Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Wed, 21 January 2004 07:52
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| Stumbles wrote on Wed, 21 January 2004 17:36 |
I think the longer your off the road the better
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thats such a stupid attitude, in some instances going faster than the posted limit is 100% safe, speed limits allow for the lowest common denominator, just as in many cases you need to go much slower than the speed limit to be "safe" (many country roads for example you have to go slower than the limit in some sections)
i know of a 50zone that has a river on one side (fenced) and the sea on the other side with a big park, vision is clear for a large distance either side of the road, and the 2 lane road is allmost wide enough to be a 4 lane road. there are no intersecting driveways or roads, and no bends. and if any pedestrians were nearby you would see them well before they were even close to the road. the road is like this for about 3km. do u think 50 is the maxiumum safe speed on this road?
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Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Wed, 21 January 2004 07:59
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If its a main road, it probably should be 60, but some councils might have just been lazy and put a blanket 50km.h zone is residential areas.
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Sydney
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June 2002
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Re: Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Wed, 21 January 2004 08:20
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Speed limits are posted for a reason , at the end of the day whether you or I think they are right or wrong means a whole lot of nothing. As a driver your obligated by law to follow them and not use your own judgement to work out the safest speed to travel.
This is a forum so if i want to give my opinion i will wether you want it or not
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Wed, 21 January 2004 08:30
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Yep what you said is correct! You should of stated that you would go on the good behavior before the consecutive disqualification started.
Been there done that 
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Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Wed, 21 January 2004 08:33
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Unfortunatley its pretty black and white area.
However councils/RTA do re-assess roads, epecialy after upgrades and sometimes they increase the speed limits.
They did this on Raby road, when they resealed it and made it 4 lanes and a 70 zone.
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Sydney
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Re: Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Wed, 21 January 2004 23:07
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| Stumbles wrote on Wed, 21 January 2004 19:20 |
Speed limits are posted for a reason , at the end of the day whether you or I think they are right or wrong means a whole lot of nothing. As a driver your obligated by law to follow them and not use your own judgement to work out the safest speed to travel.
This is a forum so if i want to give my opinion i will wether you want it or not
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That may be true, but I would suggest that there are better ways to get your point across that coming into a thread and spouting off moral arguments. He's done his "time" so I would say keep your mouth shut.
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Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Wed, 21 January 2004 23:36
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| Stumbles wrote on Wed, 21 January 2004 19:20 |
Speed limits are posted for a reason , at the end of the day whether you or I think they are right or wrong means a whole lot of nothing. As a driver your obligated by law to follow them and not use your own judgement to work out the safest speed to travel.
This is a forum so if i want to give my opinion i will wether you want it or not
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yes, and i am free to disagree with your opinion also, the same as i am entitled to question the validity of some laws.
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Epping NSW
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October 2002
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Re: Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Fri, 23 January 2004 05:51
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well i went into the RTA today and charmed the lady behind the counter into letting me take the good behaviour period...after discussing this with her supervisor for like 15 minutes she told me to come back on the day the 3 month suspension starts and she will take care of it sweeeeetttt.... 
although everyone is entitled to their opinions i didn't really want this to turn thread into another one of those arguments about speeding and the accuracy of speed limits. All i know is having gone through 6 months without a licence and with only 2 points for the next year i will be taking it VERY easy from now on.
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Location:
Central Coast
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July 2003
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Re: Advice on licence suspension, dealing with RTA etc.
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Fri, 23 January 2004 06:39
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| Stumbles wrote on Wed, 21 January 2004 19:20 |
Speed limits are posted for a reason , at the end of the day whether you or I think they are right or wrong means a whole lot of nothing. As a driver your obligated by law to follow them and not use your own judgement to work out the safest speed to travel.
This is a forum so if i want to give my opinion i will wether you want it or not
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Do you work for the Victorian Government? 
Have you ever exceeded the posted speed limit? I bet you have...
But usually, your probably one of those people who when going from a 100km/hr to a 80km/hr zone slams on the brakes the second you pass the 80km/hr sign.
From what you said we should use the speed signs to indicate the speed we should travel. Right?
So that means that if the signs 100, I have to do 100. Right?
Well I can't use my own judgement so I guess so!
So if its raining, theres lots of traffic, the roads are slippery therefore the conditions not suitable to travel at 100, do I still have to drive at 100?
You sure f**king do son! Because the speed sign says 100 you have to do 100!
Don't even think about using your own judgement and driving to prevailing conditions!
Sorry, I'm really passionate about the speeding issue and even though your entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to call it a load of f**king crap. Because thats exactly what it is.
Oh and regarding the Good Behaviour Bond, as long as you elect do go on it before the 3 month suspension starts then you should be right. 
[Updated on: Fri, 23 January 2004 07:19]
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