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crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Wed, 21 January 2004 06:22
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any ideas? the car just lurches foward. i think i need a looong breaker...
any quick ideas? i thought maybe bracing the breaker against the chassie rails and starting the car? this would probably damage the rails yes?
HELP!!! (i thought this was gonna be quick haha)
Daniel
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Wed, 21 January 2004 06:27
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as long as you have a decent socket-and-tbar wedged in a strong steel tube and then tube wedged against chasis rail, crank engine? but bit of wood between rail & bar if worried.
or remove starter, wedge bit fat screwdriver in starter-ring teeth somehow, use braker bar... if needed, purchase new flywheel afterwards.
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Wed, 21 January 2004 06:32
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apparently using a big breaker braced against the chassis then turning the engine over works a charm
I need to do it myself soon, and that's the approach I plan to use 
to stop car lurching forward, put car in neutral
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Gold Coast
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October 2002
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Wed, 21 January 2004 07:02
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thanks guys ill try the start car method i dont like the purchase new flywheel idea chuckster haha. now all i need is a pipe. any more ideas guys/gurls?
thanks
Daniel
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Wed, 21 January 2004 07:03
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rattle gun
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Wed, 21 January 2004 07:10
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rattle gun - like ed said
um before u try the crank idea - disconnect spark - DO NOT START the car. and stand well back in case it goes wrong.
not a great fan of that method.
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Wed, 21 January 2004 08:50
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My tools of the trade
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Newcastle
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April 2003
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Wed, 21 January 2004 09:14
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| munki wrote on Wed, 21 January 2004 17:22 |
this would probably damage the rails yes?
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No it shouldn't damage the rails.
If you are concerened then brace it against the ground.
Starter method works a treat for me.
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February 2003
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Wed, 21 January 2004 09:14
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and one of these:
or if i get frustrated, one of these:
 
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Wollongong
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November 2002
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Wed, 21 January 2004 11:55
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you need a special puller to get the actually pulley off right?
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Wed, 21 January 2004 23:42
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I tried EVERYTHING to get my crank pulley off, short of using a rattle gun (which I don't have access to), and the stupid thing wouldn't budge. I didn't like the idea of using the starter method but I was desperate so I gave it a shot. Breaker bar with a pipe on the end wedged against the ground, make sure the engine can't start, and turn the key for half a second. The bloody thing popped off first go! Couldn't be easier. I'm a big fan of this method now.
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c'town, NSW
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Thu, 22 January 2004 00:30
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| rob_RA40 wrote on Thu, 22 January 2004 07:48 |
and make sure u double check where u put the breaker bar u dont want to end up tightening the pulley bolt
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Do any motors actually turn the way that would make them tighten to bolt? or do all motors rotate in the same direction?
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Melbourne, Australia
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July 2002
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Thu, 22 January 2004 04:27
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Ive heard people say some hondas turn the opposite way. Whether thats true, or just the usual honda hating toyota guys, your guess is as good as mine. 
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Thu, 22 January 2004 06:42
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Yes, most Honda engines turn in the opposite direction to the norm, but not all!
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Gold Coast
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October 2002
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Thu, 22 January 2004 12:24
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hi guys thanks for the replies i got it off shortly after i posted the question...
here is how i did it
with a piece of 90 x 50mm hardwood i cut out a groove in the middle of one end in a 'U' shape large enough to fit a spanner inside.
then putting the spanner on the bolt and the wood on top of the spanner i got out the lump hammer (like the yellow handled one above) and belted the bit of wood while my dad held a breaker bar wedged in the pulley itself.
worked first go
Daniel
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Thu, 22 January 2004 12:32
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sounds good
my first method of attack will be a breaker bar, a long length of pipe, and much swearing.
I also have a sledge hammer, which always helps
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Thu, 22 January 2004 14:13
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| draven wrote on Thu, 22 January 2004 22:32 |
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I also have a sledge hammer, which always helps
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yup ... can't argue with Mr Bump (as he's know around here)
brute force wins in the long run ... 
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Thu, 22 January 2004 16:41
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you've still gotta put it back on correctly, which i guess is even more important then removal.
make a "strap wrench" with an old belt & piece of wood & nails. it's self tightening and the wood can be any length for leverage or resting against the frame or floor/ground.
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Fri, 23 January 2004 01:13
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If you can get someone else to give you a hand, just put the car in the highest gear possible, and get them to stand hard on the brake. Then just grab a breaker bar (pref at least 50cm) and use some of 'dem manly muscles. It comes off in half a second.
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Fri, 23 January 2004 01:18
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| FWDboy wrote on Fri, 23 January 2004 09:13 |
If you can get someone else to give you a hand, just put the car in the highest gear possible, and get them to stand hard on the brake. Then just grab a breaker bar (pref at least 50cm) and use some of 'dem manly muscles. It comes off in half a second.
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A lot of the time the clutch will just slip if you do that.
Its happened to me before
We ended up having to get a guy with a rattle gun to come out and take it off
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Fri, 23 January 2004 01:28
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That's interesting, I've never seen the clutch slip doing that -
Even on a crankshaft nut that a rattle gun couldn't take off (it was silastik-ed on as well as torqued to buggery!)
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Fri, 23 January 2004 01:33
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Oh, and it was a brand new clutch + pressure plate, about 4 months old. So it wasnt a worn clutch
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Fri, 23 January 2004 07:39
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| CrUZsida wrote on Fri, 23 January 2004 11:33 |
Oh, and it was a brand new clutch + pressure plate, about 4 months old. So it wasnt a worn clutch
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I'm thinking maybe you need a better clutch 
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Fri, 23 January 2004 07:44
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| Cool1 wrote on Fri, 23 January 2004 15:39 |
| CrUZsida wrote on Fri, 23 January 2004 11:33 |
Oh, and it was a brand new clutch + pressure plate, about 4 months old. So it wasnt a worn clutch
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I'm thinking maybe you need a better clutch
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Well, it was only a CA18-DE, and we used a CA16-DE clutch, so it couldn't be too far from what was required
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Fri, 23 January 2004 08:01
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when u put it back on, dont just grab a big bar and hang off the prick to tighten it, actually torque it up correctly, snapped crank bolts suck
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Fri, 23 January 2004 09:54
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dont try and turn the engine over whilst you're holding a breaker bar against it! Unless you want mangled hands and broken wrists? use a very big screwdriver to wedge between a part either side of the balancer. And have a breaker bar. its a 2 man job. Then you need to go to supercheap and buy a harmonic balancer remover tool. $25 mine cost me. Make sure you work the thread on them before trying to use it though...they crossthread quite easily.
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Sat, 24 January 2004 04:29
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I had the same clutch-slipping problem when I tried to take my pulley bolt off, and once again this was with a brand new heavy-duty Mk4 Supra clutch! I think some of you might be surprised to learn that some Toyota engines (eg JZ series) have the pulley bolt torqued up to a ridiculous figure... over 300 NM actually! 
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Sat, 24 January 2004 08:04
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my solution for getting the crank bolt off
1 40cm breaker bar
1 socket
1 Ed_ma61
piece of cake (and anything ed says about injuries sustained doing it is just him being a girl)
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Sat, 24 January 2004 13:31
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Sat, 24 January 2004 15:26
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Re: crankshaft pulley bolt i cant get it off!
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Sun, 25 January 2004 03:58
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rattle gun didnt even budge mine!
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