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Best Car for a P Plater wth $6000 to spend
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Mon, 05 August 2002 04:07
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im thinking an old skool celica, drop it on its arse+ upgrade suspension, chuck in a GE or GZE, new brakes, new rubber n see how dat goes? what u guys reckon?
i want to know what you would recomend i do, ALL Suggestions welcome, and all cars considered 
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Mon, 05 August 2002 05:19
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$6k isn't nearly enough to cover the above. In fact I wouldn't suggest starting any sort of project with a budget like that - instead you should shop around for the best car you can buy with $6k. And "best" is defined by your own needs and preferences. If you tell us exactly what you're looking for in a car, I'm sure we can all offer suggestions.
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Camden, NSW
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June 2002
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Mon, 05 August 2002 05:24
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sorry, i meant to say, buy a car for $6000 n then do the mods ontop of that sorry boyz, i screwed up
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Mon, 05 August 2002 05:28
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$6k will buy you a lot of old skool...
It'd prolly be enough for an old skool Silly Car and a total suspension upgrade. Which isn't a bad place to start...
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Camden, NSW
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June 2002
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Mon, 05 August 2002 05:31
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whats a Old skool silly car?
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Mon, 05 August 2002 06:14
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Sil-ly Car
Sound it out mate 
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Camden, NSW
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June 2002
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Re: Best Car for a P Plater wth $6000 to spend
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Mon, 05 August 2002 06:21
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 Now dont i feel like an idiot!!!!
thanks for dat man hahahaha
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Best Car for a P Plater wth $6000 to spend
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Mon, 05 August 2002 07:47
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Best bang for bucks in celicas under 6K would be an 18rg powered ra28 or 23 , those things even in OLD carby mode hammer , and with suspension modifications ( ie shocks springs swaybars ) and a better set of stoppers ( norbies got ma61 supra brakes on the front of his ra23 ) the thing would handle very very well ..
if you want EFI - then a 2tgeu ta22 would be a good start - once again - brake upgrade to corona struts/pug rotors/hilux 4 spots ) swaybars and springs would have it handling like a cat on carpet
Both cars have the capability for taking on your commodores/falcons/ricers if you intend to go that way with your driving as well
Dont even try to get a turbo or heavily engine modified celica ( ie one with a 6 cyl, not 2t,3t, or 18r series ) if you intend to fully insure it ( comprehensive - not just third party ) - cause likelyhood would be that the companies would tell u to bugger off
with both ra23/28 or ta22 you can always go and do a swap to a 3tgte later on if you want, pretty easy bolt up job with only minor mods + some electrical/plumbing work or work on supercharging a 2tgeu or 18rgeu using the 4agze's blower
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Mon, 05 August 2002 07:50
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OOOrrr you could buy yourself a fully siiiiiiiiiic excel with bodykits and go faster stickers ? 
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I supported Toymods
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Berowra-Sydney
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July 2002
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Mon, 05 August 2002 10:07
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i have a RA23 Celica insured under my dads name and me put down as the driver and its listed as modified and its got full comprehensive and thats $1400 a year insured for $2,700
thats with NRMA
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Mon, 05 August 2002 10:29
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i pay 450- a year full cover with shannons & an agreed value of $3500 mind u im sole driver - clean drivibg record + coming up 24
+ they aere cool with all the mods ive done
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Camden, NSW
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June 2002
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Mon, 05 August 2002 10:29
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Hey Guys, the car im driving now is insued through my dads work. Its just hight premiums if i crash cos im under 25. Insurance is cheap through that but i dont know how much, and i can get insured no matter what as it will be insured as a "Work" car, and i am on the payroll so i am an "EMPLOYEE"
Now what would be the best type of celica to go after? whats better, turbo or supercharged? or would an NA engine prove better in the long run for me? i want something with some balls cos im sik of my 50kw sprinter hahahahaha
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Mon, 05 August 2002 10:44
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being young id say get yourself a decent N/A celica like an 18rg - cam it and learn how to use it - and keep turbo plans
till after 25 - then you shouldnt have hassles from the cops as well
100+ horses at the wheels + 15 sec quarters are about the norm for decent 18rg's i believe - so it would be a bit pokier than the sprinter
thats just my oppinion - im building a N/a celica ta22 with a single cam 2tb that should do around 80 - 100 hp at the rears when dialed in
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Adelaide
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May 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 00:52
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Why not spend the $6000 on a new motor for the sprinter? that should give it some very larg balls 
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Camden, NSW
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June 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 01:31
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yeah i could, but its either get da celica wid balls...or wait another year wid a stock sprinter n get a silvia n i think we would al prefer the TOYOTA!!!!!!!!!!! lol
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 03:17
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Say again ?? * deciphering homeie speek *
As for silvia - why bother ?? thery are no more grunty than a 18rgeu - look no where near as good as a classic celica - and they are nissan ?
If you buy nissan - save an extra 10G and buy a GTS sKyline or a 300zx
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Adelaide
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May 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 03:26
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You can usually pick up an R32 GTS for just a bit more than a S13 Q's... Waaaay more grunt... Or a GTS-t for some really easy mods to make faster and not too much more than the K's.... Thats if you want Nissan... Personaly though, I would stick with the sprinter and pour all my cash into that... but thats just me 
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 03:29
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probably wouldnt be a bad thing - a nice 4age conversion in your sprinter - if it isnt bent to hell and rusty - would go Ok .. the number of guys on here have to say something about it ..
Thats another option to peek at - put the 6k into your sprinter - ie twin cam motor - some nice wheels + suspension , and tidying work ..
wont have the cool factor but overall they are a more modern car
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Camden, NSW
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June 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 03:53
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Thanks guys
im pretty keen on a TA22 or RA23 celica, have been for quite some time now...to me, the sprinter is a great car, but it isnt what i want if ya get me? im prolyl selling it soon and hopefully to someone who appreciates them more than me.
Now on to the silly car (see im learning all u sprinter fans hahahaha) but na, i love da shape of these models n thats what im gonna look for... i have prolly 4-6000 to spend up front on a celica n then ova the next months and years get it to show standard unless something changes and i find a new project hahahaha.
In the long run, what model would be better for conversions sake etc? i dont really know all that much about the difference in these models so any help would be greatly apreaciated.
Thanks for all your help...i lurve these forums!!!!
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 04:08
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if you've got that.. I'd get a MK2 supra ... plus you'd have a little left over
then save up for a 1JZ-gte or 2jz-gte conversion
280+hp bone stock is a beautiful thing
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 04:46
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Mk2's are pretty i must admit - ill probably buy my dads immaculate one when he decides to part with it ..
Old school wise - your best bet would have to be the RA series - simply cause they are slightly easier to find parts for - have better brakes , have extra space for larger engine clearance - and have a better gearbox stock for something like a 18RG conversion
ta22 IMHO look alot smoother but parts these days are getting awfully haed to find - like straight bumpers , and bonnets ..
They have a letdown in the front brakes dept - and need a lot more work to swap to larger rotors - whereas an RA strut can take a supra vented disc and caliper with minor modifications to the plate the caliper bolts to ( see norbies site again )
They also can take a 11 inch commodore rotor i believe without mods to the hub but im not 100% sure .. an afternoons work compared to multiple hundreds of dollars in parts , labour and fiddleing with.
for 6 grand you could buy something similar to teenz's new car with an 18rg - straight , minimal bodywork necessary and have the start to a real good modifications platform that not only looks cool - its cheap to work on as well
My starting point advice - with you being a P Plater would be a RA23/28 , 18rg conversion already done + most likely mags/minor suspension/exhaust work ( estimate of $3500 price - $4000 for a clean example ) then spend your extra $$ that you may have on a decent set of front seats ( honda prelude buckets are my choice - 250 bux to buy from a jap importers and minimal fuss to install - ask me about it as i have done it ) A nice CD player would be a go - and some nice speakers , a DECENT security system ( ie immobiliser, central locking, remote key twipper thing ) and then build on that - QUICK run down on cost estimates
Car: $3500 approx
Seats : $350 installed and engineer approved
Stereo $1000 ( cd player , front splits + rears )
Security :350
Grand total $5100
that leaves you 900 approx to play with for rego/insurance out of 6 grand - providing you do your own seat install and stereo install - get security fitted professionally
Sorry about the rant - though i hope it helps
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 04:54
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just some examples from the trading post ( from QLD + NSW sections : )
NSW:
Toyota Celica RA28 1977, mustang shape, scoop, spoiler, yellow, great condition, reconditioned brakes, reg 22/2/2003, $1990 negotiable, XVK-471 ROSEMEADOW 02-4625 7714 or 0404-012325
( note this would probably still be a 18rc )
Toyota Celica TA22 1974, 4AGE twin cam, Microtech injection, fresh respray, 90% complete, $3000 KATOOMBA 02-4782 7297 or 0415-686476
( this ones INTERESTING )
QLD:
Toyota Celica RA28, 18R GU, twin cam, 5 speed, Dragway mags, ONO -$3500 Cooroy (07) 5442 5705 A/H or (0409) 869 570
Hope they give you an idea and maybe something to look at
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Camden, NSW
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June 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 05:12
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Thanks man... just one uestion...ive read the article on engine types etc... i just wanna know... whats da best na engine for a celica, i know ge's are not as comman as da others well from what ive read neway cos there is a few on the board lol but yeah..whats the best option?
btw...thanks stuart, u have been a great help! Much appreciated
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 06:23
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theres no real " best engine " IMHO - just hat you want -
Carbywise - id say definantly a 2tg or 18rg ( 18rg is a more powerful motor ) - EFI - well once again theres 2tgeu , 18rgeu , or 4age
The problem with 4age's i believe is your stuck with 1600cc where as 18rG's and 2tg's can be stroked out usinf later model cranks and pistons . Plus 4age's you have to rev the guts out of to get the power - whereas the other two produce their power at lower revs and keep going from there
Anyway - its your choice
Stuart
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Camden, NSW
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June 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 06:41
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Well from hearing that im hooked on the 18rgeu cos i hate carbys lol
well looks like i might have to talk to parents bout lettign me sell my sprinter 
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Tue, 06 August 2002 11:21
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"Z" car for sure (did a TA22 owner say that) surely Toyota would make a better car than Nissan. I'd take the 240Z over the TA22 anyday. Sorry thinking out loud again. No.........really an early model Celica would be the way to go. Get yourself a nice stereo and a car alarm and enjoy yourself buddy.
Justin
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melbourne
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July 2004
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Re: Best Car for a P Plater wth $6000 to spend
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Sun, 18 July 2004 12:14
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man if u goin n/a nufin beats the sound of twin solex carbs wif no airfilters... those carbys are good for somethin
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Best Car for a P Plater wth $6000 to spend
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Sun, 18 July 2004 12:45
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| draven wrote on Tue, 06 August 2002 14:08 |
if you've got that.. I'd get a MK2 supra ... plus you'd have a little left over
then save up for a 1JZ-gte or 2jz-gte conversion
280+hp bone stock is a beautiful thing
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until you get used to it 
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Location:
c'town, NSW
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May 2002
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Sun, 18 July 2004 22:21
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2tg-ta22, why the hell did u dig up this ancient thread?
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Wahroonga
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June 2003
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Re: Best Car for a P Plater wth $6000 to spend
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Sun, 18 July 2004 23:06
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For 6k u can get an ST162, and it comes with a 3sge.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Mon, 19 July 2004 00:17
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haha.. wholy shit this is old..
he must have been doing the old search'in
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