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 Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Fri, 23 January 2004 15:17
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i've been thinkin about chuckin in a pod possibly simota or something similar of that calibre. Well mostly for the noise and partially for the performance gain.
i've been researching onn the past i would say 10 pages and only found one interesting thread which actually discussed some issues involved with air intake.
it was said that air pods itself was no better than a decent panel filter if not fed the right amount of air.
im no expert but i always assumed that pods had more free flow than the panel filters.
Obviously if i was to actually to put in a pod filter i was thinkin about feeding cold air into it also.
by saying this, i guess what im trying to say is if i was to keep the stock air intake box and jess change to pipe in which to feed cold air into it given that its still panel will it be the same versus a pod filter with a similar setup perfomance wise.
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Castlemaine Vic
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November 2002
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Re: Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Fri, 23 January 2004 16:02
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id say pods are better outa the box.
but if you set up a nice cold air induction to the panel box and all, it could perform just as well as a pod.
Ps, love the picture next to ya name!! LOL
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Blacktown, Sydney
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December 2003
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Re: Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Fri, 23 January 2004 18:39
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id go for a Pod simply because there are less air flow restriction ...
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sydney
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March 2003
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Fri, 23 January 2004 22:25
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pods are usually worse because no one goes to the trouble of fittin a box around then so u dont get the hot air from the radiator
they sound heaps better when u drive the car so yr brains automtaically thinks it runs better
even though the pods have more suface area the engine will only use the air it needs and with a pissy 40 or 50 mm throttlebody i dont think it is goin to run out of air
i have seen a skyline make 400 hp at the wheels and stil use a genuine nissan aircleaner
genuine panel air cleaners are usually the best fo rmost situations
not like some aftermarket ones where u could drive yr car thru the holes in the foam
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Fri, 23 January 2004 22:57
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what he said
a stock air box with a good cai feed and a k&n panel dropped in it is plenty for most applications, unless you get a nuts TB like Ed
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Sat, 24 January 2004 01:51
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Exactly to draven and Sideshow
Unless boxed in and ducted to a cold air ram from outside of the engine bay - a pofd is a waste of time .. your sucking in hot air ..
What makes a car happier - hot air + fuel , or cold air and fuel ..
A panel filter - in a stock airbox - with some simple ducting will be more effective in most applications .
Take the VN commodore airbox for example ..
its very well designed in the way it works from what i hear, and is widely used in induvtion applications outside of commodores..
My Gt4 is another example ..
theres a perfectly good 50mm outlet hidden away under the fender that isnt utilised from the factory ..
ive used this as a cold air ram/inlet - fed straight into the airbox - and i will be using a better panel filter UNTIL i can afford to relocate the battery to the boot and make a boxed in pod filter , using the same inlet ..
if you like noise but no real performance gain - go pod and suck inthat hot air..
if you want performance - use panel + existing airbox + CAI feed - Or seal Pod in box + CIA ..
Simple
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Sat, 24 January 2004 01:51
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I believe the rule is, pod for noise and panel box with cool air feed for power.
I read that somewhere.
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Sat, 24 January 2004 01:55
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but noise = power, doesn't it?
that's what the guy who sold me the 6" chrom tip for my exhaust told me
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Sat, 24 January 2004 02:03
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I would imagine that a panel + CAI would be more cost effective than pod + new box + CAI.
Just keep in mind that the more pertinent restriction on your engine (in regards to the intake side) is the throttle body area.
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I supported Toymods
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Sat, 24 January 2004 02:07
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and more restrictive than the intake side is almost always the exhaust side 
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Sat, 24 January 2004 02:35
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| draven wrote on Sat, 24 January 2004 12:55 |
but noise = power, doesn't it?
that's what the guy who sold me the 6" chrom tip for my exhaust told me
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perhaps there wouldnt be a difference on turbo motors, but on n/a motors i think you'll find a good cool air feed and panel will be better in the long run everytime.
Steve
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Sat, 24 January 2004 04:10
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even on small turbos
there is no way the std paper air cleaner will reach its limits
gtrs and 1js and 2js have paper filters and they have around 208kw
not many 4age or ze or 20v will be able to do that
plus toyota normally use same paper filter for all models
some are bit more rectangle than others but concept is all the same
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Re: Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Sat, 24 January 2004 06:34
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sorry
my sarcasm obviously wasn't evident enough
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Location:
Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Sat, 24 January 2004 09:52
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just to muddy the water a little, has anybody got opinions re: foam+oil filter versus a cotton+oil filter?
i've replaced the Finer Filter air-filter (on the 18RC+turbo) with a K&N pod (tapering-outwards sides with flat end).
maybe it's the other things i fixed at the same time, but it seems to breath better (plus induction sound is clearer but not any louder) and i'm using less fuel.
i was probably over-oiling the FF but it was a PITA to work around as everytime you touched it you got sticky-blue shit everywhere...it stunk when the engine bay heat-soaked in traffic and it took a day to clean the bugger as you had to wait for the kero to evaporate.
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Location:
Melbourne
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December 2003
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Re: Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Sat, 24 January 2004 15:24
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dude, go panel filter n run CAI down to the bottom of the front bar (air damn or whatever) will cost less then a pod and adapter plate and will give a heaps better induction. Wont sound as loud but noisy cars are just a PAIN IN THE ARSE!
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Location:
Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Sat, 24 January 2004 19:15
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| draven wrote on Sat, 24 January 2004 17:34 |
sorry
my sarcasm obviously wasn't evident enough
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not sure what I laugher harder at. The original comment..Or that people took it seriously. 
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Mon, 26 January 2004 07:40
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I  moreso at the original comment, and  when people took it seriously...
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Location:
Rowville, Victoria
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April 2003
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Re: Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Mon, 26 January 2004 08:38
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Anybody tried to get the airbox from a BA Falcon XR6/8? Can't remember if both came with it or just the 8, but it has a pod air box (stock).
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Re: Pods Vs panels ( Air intake ) what do you think.
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Mon, 26 January 2004 12:10
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1) if u are not gonna run a cold air feed and shield the hot air from the engine bay, dont bother wasting ur time with a pod !
i did the above for my celica and it kicks ass !!!
2) also had a pod in my lancer, no cold air feed, no box surround and it was N/A. . .. ... did not do anything for the car except make it sound cool. so depends what u want
if u have turbo .. do 1... if its N/A and has less than 50kws at the wheels.. save ur money
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