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For those wholike to pay out the ricer ppl
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Mon, 26 January 2004 12:40
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http://forum.hot4s.com.au/messageview.cfm?catid=17 &threadid=14558
found this when looking around. some guy told another dude to use the standard GZE from an Ae101 to use in his AE86 GZE conversion. now as far as i'm aware, that box is for a font wheel drive. go figure. stupid ricer's
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The Eastwood MASSIVE !
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May 2003
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Re: For those wholike to pay out the ricer ppl
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Mon, 26 January 2004 12:53
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That forum makes my head hurt. 
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Re: For those wholike to pay out the ricer ppl
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Mon, 26 January 2004 13:06
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same dude, i got so wound up with that site i had to go out side for a somle just to calm me down. lol. GRRRRRRRR...... stupid ricers. seen one last week, "can i fit 19's on my swift"
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: For those wholike to pay out the ricer ppl
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Mon, 26 January 2004 22:37
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for ease of fitment and greatest performance, the 4AGZE......hands down id say......good torque, good power from a 1.6 L, and always the option to turbocharge them to go like the clappers later on.
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...Why would you need to turbo charge it? It has a Supercharger right in there allready.
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: For those wholike to pay out the ricer ppl
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Tue, 27 January 2004 01:06
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Coz you get more power by taking off the supercharger, and bolting on a turbo
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Brisbane
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October 2002
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Re: For those wholike to pay out the ricer ppl
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Tue, 27 January 2004 07:43
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of course they are gonna be ricer cockheads, its the hot4's site
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I'm doing the GZE conversion to my sprinter and i'm using the T50 box(which is standered on the sprinter) this box will hold up to 350bhp no prob's
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Hi Georgio,
Welcome to the boards.
I'll try to answer your post without sounding like a know-all. Here goes.
If reliability is your main objective, your choice should be to stick with the original engine. Modified engines, replacement engines etc all have their issues. In theory, of course they don't, but in theory, practice is the same as theory.
If however you are after performance, you will sacrifice reliability. If you're only willing to make a small sacrifice, something relatively minor such as an exhaust system might be for you. You might get a 5% increase in torque, depending on other restictions in your system.
If you ignore reliability, and fuel efficiency is your objective, I would guess that the 4AGE would be most fuel efficient, if only because it runs a high compression ratio and often boosted engines run richer than usual mixtures. It will also give you the least torque out of these motors, which will be easiest on the rest of your driveline (gearbox, clutch etc).
I think you may need to redefine your priorities, objectives and constraints, eg:
1. Maximum performance, within a certain budget
2. Maximum performance, within a certain MTBF (eg one breakdown every 2 months)
3. Maximum fuel economy, with a specified target performance (eg power/weight ratio or something else objective)
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i dont know about u, but i wouldnt to a conversion to a more powerful motor to get better fuel ecomony 
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Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: For those wholike to pay out the ricer ppl
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Tue, 27 January 2004 07:49
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| CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 27 January 2004 12:06 |
Coz you get more power by taking off the supercharger, and bolting on a turbo
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... Are you being serious? Or are you kidding? While I know a turbocharger is actualy better than a Supercharger, I don't think you'll get that much more power out of a turbo without spending a lot.
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i dont know about u, but i wouldnt to a conversion to a more powerful motor to get better fuel ecomony
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I would, 'cuz I'm a dipshit! Up the displacement, it's the only way to get more power, and it will give you more economy if you get an ECOTEC 3.8ltr v6.... *sigh*
I allways wondered about that... Echotec? On a 3.8ltr engine? Why?
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: For those wholike to pay out the ricer ppl
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Tue, 27 January 2004 07:53
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| Shraka wrote on Tue, 27 January 2004 15:49 |
| CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 27 January 2004 12:06 |
Coz you get more power by taking off the supercharger, and bolting on a turbo
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... Are you being serious? Or are you kidding? While I know a turbocharger is actualy better than a Supercharger, I don't think you'll get that much more power out of a turbo without spending a lot.
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I'm serious, the stock supercharger runs about 7psi, and maxes out at about 11psi from memory
Where as you can bolt on a turbocharger and run those boosts, if not more, with more efficency
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Campbelltown, NSW, Austra...
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January 2004
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Re: For those wholike to pay out the ricer ppl
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Tue, 27 January 2004 08:11
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because its more economical than the previous series of engines on VNs and VPs (i say MORE economical, that dosent make it good)
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I supported Toymods
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Sydney
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September 2003
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Re: For those wholike to pay out the ricer ppl
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Tue, 27 January 2004 08:24
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| philmelvin wrote on Tue, 27 January 2004 18:43 |
of course they are gonna be ricer cockheads, its the hot4's site
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Hi Georgio,
Welcome to the boards.
I'll try to answer your post without sounding like a know-all. Here goes....
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i dont know about u, but i wouldnt to a conversion to a more powerful motor to get better fuel ecomony
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You can hardly call Andy a 'ricer cockhead' for answering the guy's question. In the original post 'Georgio' says:
"The two most important things i want from the engine is fuel efficiency and reliability as i drive long distances. WHich would be the most economical and reliable?"
Give 'Georgio' all the shit you want. But the guy who gave a decent, well informed reply has just finished a mechatronic eng degree @ sydney uni, top of the class. his thesis project was working on the adaptive ECU he's been developing for ages, and has designed from scratch. The guy averaged about 95 or so all through uni, has owned and modded some decent cars, and what he doesn't know about engine management.. blah.
I know this cos i went to uni with him, you could have known it from clicking on adaptronic.com.au in his sig. But no, he must be a cockhead ricer, because he posted on the hot4s forum...
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I supported Toymods
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Ademelaide, SA
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July 2003
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Re: For those wholike to pay out the ricer ppl
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Tue, 27 January 2004 13:38
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ok...
what worries me is, you were in the Hot4s Forum in the first place....
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Location:
Penrith
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August 2003
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*i retract my previous statement*