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1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Wed, 04 February 2004 00:01
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Im in a frenzy guys, I see alotta 1JZGTE threads, but cant get any satisfaction!
Im about to buy a turbo kit for a 1JZGTE, what kit would be best suited for the street?
I have the opportunity to buy a T3 twin kit, rear A/R is 64. Is that good for the street, can the 1J handle it?
What are you guys running??
Note, this is in an IS200.
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Wed, 04 February 2004 00:12
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i think the majority of people run stock turbos but other combos i have seen are: Trust T67,HF CT26,twin rb20 turbos, GTR turbos, T04E, GT35. that is all i can think of. It depends if you want to go twin or single. single would most likely be cheaper because of minifolds etc.
Personally for the street I would go for a GT35 (600hp i think, maybe 700) and i you want less lag, something like a GT30 550hp.
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Wed, 04 February 2004 00:23
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Thanks for that! Id rather find a used kit around, any kits around with GT35?
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Wed, 04 February 2004 01:20
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not that i know of.
also if you want a kit, you should check how far it goes out as most kits are for jza70's that i have seen. This is why i will probably get a custom exhaust manifold if/when I go single turbo.
a little while ago, Kristian had a t67 1jz kit for $2600 or so?
I have seen a Blitz K27 kit at www.importbitz.com for $2900. that is a 600hp turbo but no ballbearing like a GT series garrett.
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nz
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July 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Wed, 04 February 2004 04:22
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personally I have tried the factory twins then a single H/F ct26 of 7mgte to4e 57 trim compressor 10degree cut on exhaust wheel this wasnt to gd very laggy 4 what it was since then I have upgraded to turbonetics ts04/T58 turbo with P-trim turbine and .58 A/R exhaust this is still not a ball bearing turbo and is mutch bigger but surprizingly alot less lag than ct26. 4 the ultimate in gd streetability and power 4 a kit i would try and source a 2nd hand HKS gt 30-37s kit or bigger dependig on what pwr you wanted. a gd place to look at dif configs and source turbos can b found here gd info on garret GT turbos www.atpturbo.com from wat ive seen 1j seem to be able to spool up big turbos alot beter than you would exspect so i would tend to go slightly larger on the exhaust side. 
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Perth
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October 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Wed, 04 February 2004 05:43
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Here's a couple of 'kits' for the 1JZ:
http://www.gcg.com.au/default_800x600.htm
Unique Autosport also have some old Trust kits.
There are some Soarer guys who have used twin GT28/28s as well. If you could get some cheap 2nd hand GTR N1 turbos, that might make a nice twin set-up.
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Wed, 04 February 2004 06:42
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Yeah, thanks for that site, but my budget only stretches to about $2500.
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Wed, 04 February 2004 08:57
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do u know the other specs 4 the twin t3 kit i really couldent say but i rekon there would b a bit of lag with a twin t3 kit with .64 A/R exhaust housings but prob still quite streetable other pptions 4 2500$ would be to adapt the factory manifolds to fit twin rb20 t28s or maybe mitzi tdo4 or tdo5 turbos all these should b availible withn that price or scour the import part compnys 4 hks gt30 or trust t67 kits whitch you may pick up 4 close to that price
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Sydney
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March 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Wed, 04 February 2004 10:31
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Cheers, thanks Rob! You saying i can hook up some T28's, while keeping the standard manifold?
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Wed, 04 February 2004 12:15
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$2500... what about budgeting for upgrading the fuel system/ECU/tuning as well? Hate to be the killjoy, but without making EVERYTHING work, something will go bang 
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Wed, 04 February 2004 19:52
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Yeah you should be able to adapt the factory exhaust manifolds by welding flanges onto them to suit the t28sect there will abit of sortin with pipe wrk ect. but should be easily obtainable my personal recomandation if you cant find a 2nd hand kit would be to tryin save alil more money and make a simple joining pipe between the two fact manifolds and buy a single garret gt 30-40 rated two 500hp with .86 A/R exhaust housing 4 gd responce and track dwn gd 2nd hand exturnal wastegate you could try sourcing turbo from here dieseldist.co.nz they are the best prices i have eva found 4 turbos prob round 2100$ 4 turbo should b able to get 2into1 adapta manifold with t3 flange and port 4 exturnal gate made from steam pipe 4 400$ and exturnal gate 4 round 400$ I reckon this would B a gd way and if you cant wait c if you can get a big inturnal wastgate turbo prob bout the same price 4 gt 25-40 rated to 500hp . hava talk to diesel D
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Wed, 04 February 2004 23:39
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| mrshin wrote on Wed, 04 February 2004 23:15 |
$2500... what about budgeting for upgrading the fuel system/ECU/tuning as well? Hate to be the killjoy, but without making EVERYTHING work, something will go bang
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Hey man, the car is running a haltech, 550CC Supra US Injectors, 044 Fuel Pump. kekeke
robs: thanks for that, I think it would be much easier to find a used kit, Im running outta time, so need it quite soon.
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Launceston, Tasmania
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October 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Thu, 05 February 2004 05:05
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I think you should try it with the stock twins!!! You'll be pleasantly surprised as they make such a torquey motor. I don't know what an is200 weighs but in my ma61 I could still get wheelspin in 3rd coming onto the main straight at Eastern Creek Raceway! The stockers are a whole lot of STREETABLE fun that I think you're going to miss out on if you mismatch your turbo to the 1jz. It's all well and good to have a big dyno figure but I couldn't care less about it. I'm only interested in drivability and boost response and you have truckloads of both with the stock turbo's. I'm also running Haltech fmic, 3"exh. and I'm going to fit a twin dump in the next few weeks. Also I'm a whole lot happier after having mine tuned by a real proffesional in Qld who got the trubo's onto boost even earlier and improved the drivability etc. Anyway that's my 2c worth.
Rich
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Gold Coast
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May 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Thu, 05 February 2004 05:26
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Well you won't get a single setup for $2500. I'd budget atleast 4000 for this.
You would need a turbo (GT Garret? $2500) manafold ($1000) wastegate ($800?) plus oil, coolent lines and dump pipe.
For $2500 a turbo shop should be able to hiflow the stockers that sould be good for some power.
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December 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Thu, 05 February 2004 10:17
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Ah big turbos on a 1j, one day, one day...
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Thu, 05 February 2004 16:49
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what about other 'bolt-on' turbos. I've never heard an opinion on these, I've found these two, although the blitz may be for only the vvti 1jz 
Blitz K1-380v
HKS Sports Turbine kit (t3-t25 60t a/r 0.49)
(my info is from takakaira.co.jp)
cheers all!
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Fri, 06 February 2004 15:48
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| supra1jz wrote on Thu, 05 February 2004 16:05 |
I think you should try it with the stock twins!!! You'll be pleasantly surprised as they make such a torquey motor. I don't know what an is200 weighs but in my ma61 I could still get wheelspin in 3rd coming onto the main straight at Eastern Creek Raceway! The stockers are a whole lot of STREETABLE fun that I think you're going to miss out on if you mismatch your turbo to the 1jz. It's all well and good to have a big dyno figure but I couldn't care less about it. I'm only interested in drivability and boost response and you have truckloads of both with the stock turbo's. I'm also running Haltech fmic, 3"exh. and I'm going to fit a twin dump in the next few weeks. Also I'm a whole lot happier after having mine tuned by a real proffesional in Qld who got the trubo's onto boost even earlier and improved the drivability etc. Anyway that's my 2c worth.
Rich
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Rich, couldnt have said it better myself. Im not after Dyno figures, just a quick street car, thats easy to drive. I decided to stay with the stock twins (for now, I heard they are fragile. The IS200 weighs 1380kg, how heavy is the MA61? Lighter I think.
Wastegate, In one week, I came across 3 turbo kits all under $2500....Used though.
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Launceston, Tasmania
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October 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Fri, 06 February 2004 22:00
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My supra weighs about 1350kg I reckon atleast. Everyone says the turbo's are fragile but try and find someone who has ACTUALLY had one fail on them because I couldn't. I thought I had one fail but my cat converter had collapsed choking about 10psi of boost from the motor! I wouldn't worry about the turbo's expiring as I said I thrashed the shit out of my car at Estern Creek and it didn't even get past 105deg on the gauge(Ihave hydraulic engine fan)the fuel pump was screaming its tits off but the engine was ok. 1jz + is200 will be a fast car with bags of torque and like me you will be able to get plenty from the 1jz with Haltech. I was nearly sucked into the bigger turbo is better bullshit but I'm over it now and I'm totally in love with twins. I'm getting three gears of wheelspin so who needs more power than that????
Rich
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Gold Coast
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Brisbane
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November 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Sat, 07 February 2004 09:06
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I'm getting three gears of wheelspin
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Your suspension, tyres and/or driving style are in need of some attention. I've been in a number of cars with around the 500hp mark and they don't even wheelspin through three gears.... and we both know that 1JZ twins will not make anywhere near 500hp - even after Martin Donnon has applied his "I'm the man" loading to the actual figures.
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Sat, 07 February 2004 10:17
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hahah, whats with you guys always bagging Martin Donnon? Ive read through the projectm and there has always been dyno sheets.
Yeah, I'll stick to twins, then see what happens in the near future. Im sure Ill be happy with the stockies for a while.
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Launceston, Tasmania
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October 2003
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Sat, 07 February 2004 23:17
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7M-Do you mean to tell me that my 235/45zr17 Kumho Ectsa's are shit????? Suspension-good,driving style-needs work, tyres-suck.
I wasn't trying to brag, obviously the tyres are total rubbish but I still thought it was good for the little turbo's to turn them in 3rd gear coming onto the straight. I was just trying to demonstrate the usable torque available from the stock twins. Anyway I've already posted my dyno figure on here for everyone to see and I'm very happy. My next trick is to get some 255/40 R compound tyres for the track. Woohoo!!!! I won't be turning those suckers in anything but 1st gear methinks. Hahahaha.
Rich
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Brissy
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December 2002
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Re: 1JZGTE, what Turbo??!!
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Sun, 08 February 2004 09:55
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I have seen a Blitz K27 kit at www.importbitz.com for $2900. that is a 600hp turbo but no ballbearing like a GT series garrett..
i just bought that!!
cant wait to get it running
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