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January 2004
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Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Thu, 05 February 2004 10:03
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Hi all,
Basically I want more power but don't want forced induction and unsure weather I should modify the 22r or transplant a new N/A engine. A mechanic has told me that the 22r doesn't respond with to modification and it would be costly to modify it. Also I’m unsure how a 1ggeu would affect handling and under the impression that a 3sge transplant would be costly. I would like to stay with EFI as well. I will have about $3-4k at my disposal for this project but not facilities to do the major work myself so I’ll have to get a shop to do most of the work. Any suggestion or opinions are welcome.
Thanks
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Location:
Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Thu, 05 February 2004 11:17
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on ebay there is a 22r Turbo manifold with a ct20 turbo for like $300. But i would say to go with the 1ggeu, that is the way im going, as it seams it is a easy mod. i would like to go 1ggtu but since im young it would be to much on insurance
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May 2002
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Thu, 05 February 2004 11:22
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dont mind les.. he's illiterate and missed the "dont want forced induction" 
why not a 1uz? 
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May 2002
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Thu, 05 February 2004 12:24
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HAHAHAAH my bad - been a long day !
if u are gonna go NA... might as well leave it as it is
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January 2004
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Thu, 05 February 2004 21:20
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Will the 1uz fit easily? How much heavier it the 1uz compared to the 22r. Extra power is great but I don't want a lead tipped arrow. What does the engines weigh anyway (22r,1ggeu,1uzfe)
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Thu, 05 February 2004 21:45
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using the search function for 1 minute finds:
1uz-fe weighs in at a touch over 200kgs, with everything attached (ps, aircon, sump)
1g-gte weighs in at slightly *less* than a 22R (but remember your weight distribution will still be more forward of the front wheels)
1g-geu will be even less
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May 2002
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Thu, 05 February 2004 21:51
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do you want your car to be a sleeper or do u just need a replacement engine ?
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Location:
c'town, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Thu, 05 February 2004 21:56
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careful what u suggest. 1UZ on that budget will be hard to do.
1G-GE is cheapest n/a option.
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January 2004
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Thu, 05 February 2004 22:47
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Well the 22r in it now has 286000 km on the clock, burns a bit of oil and pings above 3500-4000 rpm. And there’s a tiny bit of blow by. And I would like more power I think I would be happy with 140-180 hp for the moment. It will be a sleeper I hope
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Thu, 05 February 2004 23:56
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now it's me who's not reading the first post
1uz on your budget is probably not doable (read: almost certainly not)
go the 1g-geu
listen to rob - he's smart
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Fri, 06 February 2004 00:02
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At least we like to let him think he is. They're right though, a 1GGE is going to be the best bang for bucks at that budget.
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sydney
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March 2003
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Fri, 06 February 2004 00:11
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3 to 4 grand doesnt get u much
these days a basic engine rebuild done properly can cost up to 3000
did a lexus in a hilux few weeks ago
they said it cost around 8000 to 9000
thats for a workshopp to do
includes engine/wiring/surge tanks/pumps/mounts/bellhousing kit
y dont u want forced induction
i just did an sr20 n/a into an old ke30 (i think) corolla
so i would even think about an sr20 i know its not toyota engine but hey
all u want is good hp
but remember yr car is originally carby
to goto an efi engine means about 500 bucks for a fuel system
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May 2002
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Fri, 06 February 2004 00:13
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will insurance be a factor in what engine u choose mate ??
how old are u ?
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January 2004
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Fri, 06 February 2004 01:08
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I'm 21, my car already has EFI. I'm not to concerned about insurance. As for why not force fed I just prefer n/a if I wanted out right hp I would go down the turbo route, just after a moderate increase over standard and down the track well set up suspension and brakes. So far it would seem the 1ggeu would be best, is there a recommended supplier of a front cut/engine and loom or doesn't it matter where I should get it.
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Location:
Perth WA
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December 2003
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Fri, 06 February 2004 01:18
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nitrous
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Location:
Hobart, Tas
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May 2002
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Re: Ra65 engine mod/conversion help
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Fri, 06 February 2004 12:02
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If it's pingin g over 3 grand (I'm not an authority on this, but this probably suggests carbon build up. yes?), then you either need to start using better fuel, or retard the timing. Now. That pinging means pre-detonation. Not good for your engine or power.
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