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Conquest
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icon1.gif  Driver aggression - interesting read! Wed, 11 February 2004 10:28 Go to next message
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The first definition of aggression in driving includes what would normally be classified as extreme behaviour. These are acts of murder, suicide and willful and malicious assaults (physical or psychological). The second definition encompasses the concept of risk taking. This driving behaviour is aggressive in appearance, but does not necessarily imply intent to cause harm, although it may subsequently put other road users at risk.

The view is expressed that the road user's behaviour is seen as reflecting a balance between personal motives (for example, thrills, the desire for speed or position in the traffic stream) and the subjective risk of crash involvement. Central to this view is the argument that drivers in general do not perceive any risk of crash involvement.

Another approach to the concept of subjective risk has different implications for driver risk taking. This is the concept of risk homeostasis which argues that road users always operate at the maximum level of risk that they are prepared to accept. This theory assumes that the driver is aware of and desires the level of risk he or she is taking.


EDIT: I though the comments in bold are a pretty fair summation, the drivers who think nothing can go wrong vs those willing to take an active risk...

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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Wed, 11 February 2004 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Whether or not you want to take a risk you are just by driving with some of the other dickheads out there. IMHO there's two types that cause accidents.

Active - Idiots who drive stupidly, without consideration of the conditions, their cars ability and their own.

Passive - Those that drive too slowly and cautiously for the traffic around them, making otherwise normal people take a greater than necessary risk to avoid/get around them to travel at a normal safe pace and maintain traffic flow.
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Wed, 11 February 2004 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i hate those passive bastards Mad Mad
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Wed, 11 February 2004 23:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Passive dammit..
We have a street I have to go along every day to my house, used to be 60km/h and everyone for some reason drove at 50. Now its 50km/h and guess what, everyone drives are 40.. Drives me mad!
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Wed, 11 February 2004 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
heh old people are the best for it Razz
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Thu, 12 February 2004 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What about people who are just lazy drivers? Listen to music and what have you? Then run off the road when they don't see a turn comming?

Most fatal road accidents happen in rural areas, aparently. So they shouldn't be cracking down on people in city areas with 50 zones and the like.
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Thu, 12 February 2004 04:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I always remember the first fatal accident I saw. Way out west a cattle road train on a main road which back then meant it had 4 or 5 trailers Laughing . An old couple towing their caravan along doing around 40 in an old fairlane. Truck comes over the crest of the hill and literally ran through the caravan and over most of the car, tipping cattle everywhere (can anyone say cow tipping). Truck was not speeding (we were following), it just came down to inappropriate speed.

Another good one ois those "passives" that think to enter a freeway thats travelling at 110k's you need to slow to 40. Mad
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Thu, 12 February 2004 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ohh man

<rant>
the:

- slow freeway enterers.
- dont stay in their own lane in a 2 lane round about.
- go 70 in an 80 zone. but then go 70 in a 60 zone.
- dont obey the keep left unless overtaking rule on freeways.

passives all sh!t me to no end.
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Thu, 12 February 2004 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stuff the 'slow' freeway enterers...

try getting stuck behind somone who 'missed' their merging opportunity cause they were doing 40, so decide to STOP in the merging lane, indicator going, looking for the next availability....


IDIOTS!
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Thu, 12 February 2004 04:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I miss my range rover and bullbar
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Thu, 12 February 2004 04:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rob_RA40 wrote on Thu, 12 February 2004 15:30


- dont stay in their own lane in a 2 lane round about.


What about those who don't stay in their own lane IN A STRAIGHT LINE Mad I've noticed alot of that lately, had a few near misses too. Some people have absolutely no idea where their car is on the road...
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Thu, 12 February 2004 05:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Conquest wrote on Thu, 12 February 2004 15:55

rob_RA40 wrote on Thu, 12 February 2004 15:30


- dont stay in their own lane in a 2 lane round about.


What about those who don't stay in their own lane IN A STRAIGHT LINE Mad I've noticed alot of that lately, had a few near misses too. Some people have absolutely no idea where their car is on the road...


Totaly agree with that one. It happened to me last night, the prick was on his mobile, as I went passed him he was smiling at me. Mad Mad Mad That pissed me off!!
I just shook my head as I passed him, I try not to get angry cause I know It want fix their driving, I don't even beep my horn anymore just try to stay cool Cool Cool Cool
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Thu, 12 February 2004 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message


thats why i've got a air horn Laughing

HHHHHOOOOOOOOOONK

its fkn loud your aloud them in WA as long as their single tone.

i've scared heaps of people who pull out on me or try and merge into me Shocked
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Thu, 12 February 2004 06:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i find that the best way to deal with people going well slower than the speed limit is to get in front of them, then slow down to a crawl.

i cant stand people who cant/wont indicate, or dont know how to indicate correctly on roundabouts Mad ... whats this crap about indicating right to go straight? Mad then just turning it off when they are leaving. or even better, Mad just not indicating at all no matter which way they are going Mad

fgjhkfashf;dksohflksahgfkljsk;sj Mad Mad

it just makes it worse when they have those stupid ok/25 stickers Mad ... yeah big woop that you are classed as a "safe" driver Mad ... go back to drivers ed and learn how to drive properly Mad
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Thu, 12 February 2004 06:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Conquest wrote on Thu, 12 February 2004 15:55


What about those who don't stay in their own lane IN A STRAIGHT LINE Mad I've noticed alot of that lately, had a few near misses too. Some people have absolutely no idea where their car is on the road...

Heh heh. I had this happen to me on the way to the Greenvale meet. He just drifted halfway into my lane, before deciding to indicate. If I hadda looked away, or hadn't been on the ball he would have clipped me. So I braked, beeped, then ran right up his ass for a bit, then backed off until he went left again into a freeway exit. I gunned up next to him and gave him the finger. He look terrified.
This wouldn't have angered me so much if there was no other way to get into the left lane. The lack of indicator was bad, but I would have let it go. But there wasn't another car behind me for at least 200m! I probably over reacted. Oh well.
ed_ma61 wrote on Thu, 12 February 2004 15:32

try getting stuck behind someone who 'missed' their merging opportunity cause they were doing 40, so decide to STOP in the merging lane, indicator going, looking for the next availability....

That's okay, if they are in a JZA80 Supra RZ, and can fly from 0-100 in a matter of seconds. Evil or Very Mad But they usually aren't. Sad

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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Sun, 15 February 2004 03:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I got honked for indicating too much.... by a Camry... go figure??!!??

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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Sun, 15 February 2004 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the other night i was entering the south eastern freeway and was just reaching 100km/h when i notice that the lady next to me on my right in a barina is moving into my lane. my front bumper was lined up with her doors, so she didnt have any room to come in. i started beeping my horn, but she couldnt hear it at all (its pretty quiet AE82) and continues to come into my lane. i look to the very left lane and there is space, so i quickly indicate and hop into that lane. she completed her lane change, luckily with me not there!!!

stupid bitch..
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Sun, 15 February 2004 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I drive through the city every morning and evening.

I need a massive f##k off horn.
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Mon, 16 February 2004 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hehe. I find its funny that on 3 lane highways/motorways the left lane is now the fast lane. Its annoying when you have the occasional slow driver in the left lane like he should be :P
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Re: Driver aggression - interesting read! Mon, 16 February 2004 05:37 Go to previous message
Fiery isles wrote on Mon, 16 February 2004 16:34

hehe. I find its funny that on 3 lane highways/motorways the left lane is now the fast lane. Its annoying when you have the occasional slow driver in the left lane like he should be Razz

Yeah, it's kinda stupid like that. I hate it when you get a three lane highway, with three soccer mum 4WD taking up the whole road. they all drive at the same speed like it's some kind of realy slow formation driving or something. THEN when one of them FINALY get ahead, the guy behind them doesn't take the chance to slip though, and I am stuck behind that moron.
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