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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2003
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Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Wed, 11 February 2004 16:17
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I noticed you don't have spam proofing on email addresses. There is some PHP code that I have that uses Javascript to stop spam spiders finding emails on your site. If you want it, give me a yell.
I also notice that quotes (“‘’”) copied out of Word don't work properly. I can give you code to fix that if you like. I would email the developer directly, but I don't even know who that is.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Thu, 12 February 2004 00:42

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Try and get it to send people and email when you send them a Private Message
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Location: Bayside Melbourne.
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Thu, 12 February 2004 00:57

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CrUZsida wrote on Thu, 12 February 2004 11:42 | Try and get it to send people and email when you send them a Private Message
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Yes, do that.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Thu, 12 February 2004 01:05

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Also, sometimes when I get a notification of a reply to a thread, the link to the thread is missing.
Anyone else get that?
I can take a screenshot and post it next time it happnes if you don't know what I mean.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Thu, 12 February 2004 01:36

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Yeah I get that too.
Email notification of PMs would be good yes. 
I was specifically about the cars for sale thread. Lots of people giving out non-spam proof email addresses.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Thu, 12 February 2004 11:24

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Nobody wants spam proof emails?
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Thu, 12 February 2004 12:45

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Shraka wrote on Thu, 12 February 2004 02:17 | <snip> I would email the developer directly, but I don't even know who that is.
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umm ... did you look at the bottom of every page this forum generates? then tried google?
... took me all of three seconds
<http://fud.prohost.org/>
fwiw: for public stuff like this and yahoo groups, use a sacrificial address (e.g. i have a fixed optushome address and go thru one of my 5 free optusnet address for all the car shit - whenever i start to get spam - i change addresses and dump the infected one)
charles.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Thu, 12 February 2004 12:49

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Yeah, I saw that, but I thought that a specific developer may roam these forums.
Why have a sacrificial email address when you can just make the emails published on the site spam proof?
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: February 2003
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Thu, 12 February 2004 13:07

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No, you use javascript. To you and me it's the same.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: February 2003
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Thu, 12 February 2004 14:45

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Hrm... yeah I imagine that would defeat the script (I didn't write it myself, I adapted it for my site). All the script does is use Javascript to print the address to the screen, rather than using HTML. As I understand it, it should stop at least most spam crawlers. However, could you simply make the email addresses not linked (still using the Javascript to print non-linked URLs)? Would that defeat your spam crawler?
The other alternative is to have email addresses encrypted and only shown as a "click to email" link. When clicked, it opens up a form to send an email to this person.
This is what the code looks like:
<script>
var a,b,c,x,y,n;
y = 'domain.com';
x = 'user';
b = 'lto:';
c = '">';
a = '<a href="mai';
n = '@';
document.write(a+b+x+n+y+c);
</script>
Would your method destroy this, I'm not totally familiar with how spam crawlers work. I'm a designer, working from the front end back, so yeah. I know more about interface stuff than what the server is doing.
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
Registered: March 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Fri, 13 February 2004 01:57

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im pretty sure nark has a lot to do with the forums, maybe you should talk to him?
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Fri, 13 February 2004 11:39

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Shraka wrote on Fri, 13 February 2004 00:45 | <snip>
Would your method destroy this, I'm not totally familiar with how spam crawlers work. I'm a designer, working from the front end back, so yeah. I know more about interface stuff than what the server is doing.
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as long as it's driven by some kind of interface-driven behaviour (e.g. onmouseover), and definately a CSS-driven action then it would defeat a curl-based bot.
would be even better to do some basic obsfucation or transposition when stating your vars in case the script is grabbed as raw text.
but ... the smarts required to construct/draw and traverse the DOM of a dynamic page with lots of presentation driven by CSS 1 or 2 would be way too hard - would be much easier to suck-down newsgroupds and grep for 'mailto' and '@' strings
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Fri, 13 February 2004 13:45

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So it would be what... 90% spam proof? better than 0%.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Fri, 13 February 2004 22:32

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you could also use character encoding in the source:
@ represented as @
so even the raw source is obsfucated
see: <hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/reference/special _characters/>
you could even tranposte the numeric codes if storing them as VARs, getting javascript to untranspose
but yes, 90% is better than zip - i'm just wary of javascript stuff that starts to become platform/browser dependant
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Location: Cabramatta, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Sat, 14 February 2004 00:22

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Have you guys realised that you have an "email" button at the bottom of every post?
That's a protected way of emailing a forums member. The functionality is already there, if people don't want to use it, then they don't use it.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Hey, developer of this forum / site
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Sat, 14 February 2004 02:26
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Nark wrote on Sat, 14 February 2004 11:22 | Have you guys realised that you have an "email" button at the bottom of every post?
That's a protected way of emailing a forums member. The functionality is already there, if people don't want to use it, then they don't use it.
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Oh hey... nifty.
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