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Something about the 3sfe
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Wed, 18 February 2004 01:23
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Hey guys. Just a few things i'd like to know.
Theres a camry station wagon here. Its my cousins. She has a 3sfe in her car in manual. I heard these are quite scarse due to being the manual. Anyway she got some issues with her motor. Believe the oil pump is rooted and timing belt has been changed incorrectly.
Anyway being part of the 3s family. how possible would a 3sge be in her car? Bell housings? Wiring?
How about the actual availablily of these 3sfe motors? How are they? Expensive? Decent? I drove it before its not too bad for a 2 liter twincam.
The motor is in a really bad state. Just wanting to dig up a few opinions on what can happen. ATM i'm going down to the joint to yell the living hell out of a dodgy apprentice that changed the oil seals x 3 and timing belt.
Some help guys... PLease???
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northside brisbane
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September 2003
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Melbourne
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December 2003
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Re: Something about the 3sfe
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Wed, 18 February 2004 04:49
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heres the go, any 3sge will fit straight up, no mods needed. Thats gen1-3 as the mounts are all the same. As for the 3sgte ur gonna have to do a bit of work to get it to fit. As for power etc, if u wanna stay NA, go the norm 3sge, gettin 103kw, 117 and 137kw at the flywheel as standard. Gen 1 came in the celica and gen2 and 3 are out of mr2s. If the engines that stuffed u can pick up a gen1 for under 800bux easy. Check out http://www.toyospares.com.au
They're in melbourne so they can help u out.
good luck
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NE Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Something about the 3sfe
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Sat, 17 April 2004 02:49
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StuC -
do you know if the same goes for the 2S camrys (SV11 and early SV21)?
would a 2S have all the same engine mounts as the 3SGE/GTE. and is the bell housing the same on them?
also having done the engine conversion, is the gearbox going to be tough enough?
would it be worth getting a gearbox from a ST162? what about drive shafts will they be strong enough?
there is the option to use a MR2 N/A or turbo box and swap the linkages around?
also i heard a rumour that the 4AGZE box is the same as a MR2 turbo box (bell housing aside), is this true?
if so can a 4AGZE box be used with a 3SGE bell housing for a tough complete package?
sorry about all the questions, but these isn't a lot of chat here about camry's, finding it difficult to find stuff out
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NE Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Something about the 3sfe
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Sat, 17 April 2004 03:44
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just another thought, will all the accessories and brackets on the front of the engine (ps, ac, alternator) bolt onto the 3S from the 2S???
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Something about the 3sfe
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Sat, 17 April 2004 03:53
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Dori,
The 2S engine mounts will not bolt directly to the 3S. The 3S has a rib which as 2 mounting points ground away on the inlet side. You have to make an adaptor plate to alloy the standard mount to bolt to something.
The borgwarner box in the 2S camry will not handle the 3S at all. And the bellhousing on this box will fit the 3S, but it wont suit a W series box.
The 2S accessory brackets should fit the 3S but i'm not 100% sure.
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NE Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Something about the 3sfe
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Sat, 17 April 2004 04:22
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cheers for the info. the plan is to stay FWD, was just toying with the idea of a 3SGE SV11 camry. but i'm really not interested in doing much fabrication, was hoping for a nut and bolt engine swap. its a shame that the blocks are so different!!!
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Location:
Rocklea qld
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February 2003
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Re: Something about the 3sfe
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Sat, 17 April 2004 06:06
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Physically the 2s and 3s blocks are the same except for the mounting points arent they???...why not just put the 3s head on a 2s bottum end....making sure you rebuild it all as you go...
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NE Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Something about the 3sfe
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Sat, 17 April 2004 06:46
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that's a good idea, but just more hassle... i like the idea of getting a second hand engine and just dropping it right in, not having the extra expense of gasket kits, parts, etc... does anyone have any photos of the two blocks to compare the differeces?
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Location:
Rocklea qld
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February 2003
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Re: Something about the 3sfe
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Sat, 17 April 2004 07:10
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they are identical as far as i knew except the missing mounting point....being front wheel drive though the complete engine may be a straight swap...only mount point is a hassle when doing a rear wheel drive conversion as far as i knew....try google or something for more info.
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