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Location: Perth
Registered: October 2002
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MA61 Carrier bearings
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Wed, 18 February 2004 09:06
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1983mkII and I are doing a mini group buy on True Trak diffs for Perth XA-61 owners. We've got the price down quite a bit. If anyone else in Perth is interested, we're ordering later this week.
The price we were quoted for carrier bearings sounds a little steep at $US97.20. Has anyone bought them in Aus? And if so, what's the local price for them?
Thanks in advance,
Justin
JZA-61
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I Supported Toymods
Location: melbourne.vic.au
Registered: May 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Wed, 18 February 2004 11:52
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Did I hear group buy for the TrueTrac Diff?
Have you gone down to bearing shop to ask for prices and availability? When I got my TrueTrac into the country I got the carrier bearings with it as well coz I did not want to mess around and hunt for them...
Cheers.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Wed, 18 February 2004 22:44
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Yeah, likewise. I can't remember how much I was charged for the bearings but I'm pretty sure it was less than that...
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I Supported Toymods
Location: melbourne.vic.au
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Wed, 18 February 2004 22:54
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Celia-Sue wrote on Wed, 18 February 2004 20:06 |
The price we were quoted for carrier bearings sounds a little steep at $US97.20. Has anyone bought them in Aus? And if so, what's the local price for them?
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That price sounds right coz it is for 2 carier bearings... They are made in Japan from memory, but make and model, I can't remember.
Cheers.
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Location: Perth
Registered: July 2003
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Wed, 18 February 2004 23:24
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Guys,
accoring to the EPC I get the following part numbers for the carrier bearings:
90368-45002
Can anyone confirm this?
Anyone have a way of cross referencing to a bearing shop part number?
Thanks
Peter
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I Supported Toymods
Location: melbourne.vic.au
Registered: May 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Wed, 18 February 2004 23:45
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The carrier bearings can be different in profile/size though... I can't confirm this. Norbie do you have a clue?
Cheers.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 19 February 2004 01:36
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The required carrier bearings are NOT the same as the stock MA61 bearings if you're installing a TrueTrac; I think Hilux bearings are used but I'm not certain. I'm sorry I don't have any part numbers... if I'd thought of it at the time I would have written down the numbers before I installed the diff! Oh well.
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Location: Perth
Registered: July 2003
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 19 February 2004 02:40
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Oops - you're right Norbie. What I listed was the stock carrier bearings
Is there any chance the Diff shop that put your truetrak in would know what they used?
Thanks
Peter
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 19 February 2004 05:29
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Nope, I supplied the bearings along with the diff, they just assembled everything.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 19 February 2004 13:05
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Couldn't you match the bearings up with something from a bearing shop, or do you need the Toyota ones? It sounds really expensive for something I'm finding is a fairly generic thing providing you have the right size.
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Location: Perth
Registered: July 2003
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Fri, 20 February 2004 01:20
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JCMF,
absolutely right!
I just did a bit of digging & phoning around & found we need:
- The diff carrier bearings of a 1990 hilux 4x4 front diff
- Toyota Part number 90368-45066 $48.15 each
- Identical part from Associated World Bearings 17887/17831 $25.70 each
Can't confirm this until I actually try it but the part numbers seem to line up with the various posts on the subject.
Peter
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I supported Toymods
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Fri, 20 February 2004 01:23
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Score! Let us know your findings
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I Supported Toymods
Location: melbourne.vic.au
Registered: May 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Fri, 20 February 2004 12:42
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ZZT231 wrote on Wed, 18 February 2004 22:52 | ...Have you gone down to bearing shop to ask for prices and availability? ...
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Didn't I say haven't you gone to the bearing shop and ask for prices and avaliablity?
Now at least when I go for new bearings, I can look for alternates
Cheers.
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Membership Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Location: Perth
Registered: July 2003
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 03 June 2004 13:34
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Good work Luke - sorry for the bum steer!
I'll see how hard it is to track them down this side of the nullabour.
Regards
Peter
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Location: Perth
Registered: October 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 17 June 2004 09:58
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Peter,
How did you go finding a WA supplier for the bearings?
-Justin
Whos TrueTrac is keeping the back-door nicely chocked to let the cats in out at night, at the moment.
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 17 June 2004 22:59
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Celia-Sue wrote on Thu, 17 June 2004 17:58 | Whos TrueTrac is keeping the back-door nicely chocked to let the cats in out at night, at the moment.
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I think mine is being used as a paperweight at Nathans house atm
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I supported Toymods
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Fri, 18 June 2004 01:44
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Actually, it's locked in the shed with mine, I wasn't allowed to bring it inside, something about already having too much car shit in here
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Location: Perth
Registered: July 2003
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Fri, 18 June 2004 04:36
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Justin,
haven't gone looking for the bearings yet - still looking at a place to install it for a reasonable price.
Cruzida - I couldn't find a listing for that Diff place you mentioned. Do you have any contact details?
I reckon we should at least try to get a 'group install' going.
I'd like to get mine in by the end of June if possible.
Anyone else?
Regards
Peter
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Fri, 18 June 2004 04:39
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End of June will be too early for me, and I need your diff first I'll just get mine done later.
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Fri, 18 June 2004 04:41
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82MKII wrote on Fri, 18 June 2004 12:36 | Cruzida - I couldn't find a listing for that Diff place you mentioned. Do you have any contact details?
I reckon we should at least try to get a 'group install' going.
I'd like to get mine in by the end of June if possible.
Anyone else?
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I plan to go in and talk to the dude if he is still there.
I'll ask him about costs, and the group install thing
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I supported Toymods
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Wed, 28 July 2004 07:09
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Can anyone confirm this bearing number being right for putting it into the MA61 housing? NACHI E32010JA1LT
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Wed, 28 July 2004 07:17
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any chance of getting more of these true traks?
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I supported Toymods
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Wed, 28 July 2004 15:38
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Cheers CrUZida, have sent them an email to see hwta shipping would be to Oz.
Have found a Cuzco RS LSD locally (s/hand) and will be interested to see how this compares
Cheers
Michael B
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I supported Toymods
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 July 2004 00:05
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Expect to pay about $850-$900 to your door.
Unless 82MKII still has a spare one?
Prolly pick that up for $700
PM him quick
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 July 2004 00:08
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FWIW I got my TrueTrac through RabidChimp last year. Excellent service, well recommended.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 July 2004 14:44
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Cheers CrUZida, 82MKII contacted and awaiting response
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Membership Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 July 2004 22:43
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What are guys doing over there, mine's been and and coping abuse for atleast 2 months now.
They come on quite quick, bloody good fun dropping dualies in a crown wagon. The thing side steps a foot before it goes forwards, but man if you get it right does is it launch hard!!!
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Sun, 01 August 2004 22:04
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Mr Stitt ,
Are you still able to get these bearings ?
I have a Tru Trak on it's way over soon (as soon as I deposit the money) and will need the bearings.
I'd love a price
Cheers
Michael B
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Membership Secretary
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Sun, 01 August 2004 23:30
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bbaacchhyy
Yeah should still be able to get the bearings as It says in an above post $45 plus postage, I would have a look round bearing joints down there first before you get me to send them.
Just pass the part number around
Also call me Stitt not Mr please.
Thats what everyone else on here calls me
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Sun, 01 August 2004 23:47
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Thanks Luke,
I'll try around here first, it was just that the previous posts indicated that it was a little hard to get hold of.
I was wondering if the "Mr Stitt" would attract the attention quicker .
Cheers
Michael B
And it is The Stitt from now on
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Membership Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Sun, 01 August 2004 23:52
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Nah anything with my name in it I will respond to, you just got lucky in that I was just skipping thru the forums and saw this thread and thought I would check out any response's to me giving all the WA boys some crap for not having there LSD's in.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 00:20
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Wonder why that happend Draven. Sorry for the bum steer, but that what i used in the Crowns diff. Unless I copied the number down wrong.
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 00:26
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josh told me I should try and be tasteful about it, but I figured you wouldn't take offence if I didn't put any flowery language around the facts
it's possibly you had a different truetrac part number, which is why I listed both part numbers. the one J and I have is for a front axle apparently, but it sits nicely in the ma61 housing.
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 00:34
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draven wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 08:26 | it's possibly you had a different truetrac part number, which is why I listed both part numbers. the one J and I have is for a front axle apparently, but it sits nicely in the ma61 housing.
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I think all the F-series ones were originally for a front axle. That's the only Hilux diff that had an F-series. It's probably just that it required different bearings to go into the live-axle housing.
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 00:44
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aahh, good point.
Teh Gh3y.
Joorsh, get off your arse and post the part numbers.
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Membership Secretary
Location: Sydney
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 00:51
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Thats what I would of thought maybe a difference between live and IRS housings.
Also was going to suggest that you ask Josh what his part numbers cause he should of got his diff back last night.
NOt sure waht part number my LSD is one of the original group buys som maybe someone that was in thatbuy can tell me
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I supported Toymods
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 00:54
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he's sitting in his garage whining about how hard it is to reinstall the diff with only one person.
Don't worry, I told him he was a wuss
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Membership Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 01:21
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Its all good it in
but he needs to give out part numbers
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Location: Hobart, Tas
Registered: May 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 01:30
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draven wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 10:02 | note to all: the stated nachi bearings (E32010JA1LT) DO NOT fit truetrac diff no. 911A342, which goes in the MA61 f-series diff.
so don't go ordering these in if that's the truetrac you have. J might be able to post the part numbers that do fit.
edit: and if anyone wants a pair or 2 of the above part numbered nachi bearings, I'm selling for $60/pr (which is what it cost me, and you won't find cheaper)
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Umm, fuck, I spent $100 on a pair of those a few weeks ago I guess I can return them with a re-stockign fee - anyone able to organise a group buy on the correct bearings need?
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 03:32
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I've got Nachi 50KB80ILT carrier bearing fitted on my F Series TruTrac... though I know I have to replace the pinion bearing again...
Cheers.
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Location: Perth
Registered: July 2003
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 04:24
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I organised the group buy that Luke's centre came from and I can confirm it was part number 911A342. So it must have been the diff housing that was different.
On the subject of carrier bearings the knobs that installed mine told me (after I picked it up) that they just machined down the new centre a bit and used the standard F series carrier bearings.
Maybe this is why I have leaky side seals?
Peter
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 04:26
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sounds dodgy. sif you machine it down instead of just putting in the right size bearings!
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 04:35
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Can you PM/email me that place that did yours Pete?
I want to stay away from there.
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 05:17
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82MKII wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 12:24 |
On the subject of carrier bearings the knobs that installed mine told me (after I picked it up) that they just machined down the new centre a bit and used the standard F series carrier bearings.
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Dear god! My mechanic sorted new bearings out not a worry, and he's not even a diff specialist!?
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Location: Hobart, Tas
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 07:04
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justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 15:17 | Dear god! My mechanic sorted new bearings out not a worry, and he's not even a diff specialist!?
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I nominate you to organise the group buy for the rest of us, then.
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Thu, 29 September 2005 12:47
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Stefan wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 15:04 |
justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 15:17 | Dear god! My mechanic sorted new bearings out not a worry, and he's not even a diff specialist!?
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I nominate you to organise the group buy for the rest of us, then.
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Haha, because I know what bearings they were I just said "here is the old diff, here is the tricky centre, make them love each other". And he did.
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Location: Hobart, Tas
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Sat, 01 October 2005 12:15
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Anyone have any news on the correct part # for the trutrack --> xA6x F-series carrier bearings?
ZZT231 - is "Nachi 50KB80ILT" correct, or are you implying that maybe it isn't?
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Sat, 01 October 2005 22:43
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Stefan wrote on Sat, 01 October 2005 22:15 | ...
ZZT231 - is "Nachi 50KB80ILT" correct, or are you implying that maybe it isn't?
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With my MA61 I got those carrier bearing in my diff as RabidChimp owner, Aaron, supplied me with them when I got it a few years ago. I still have the bearing boxes in my garage. I can't remember if any or no machine was done to get them fitted.
Don't take my word for it as I didn't install the center in the housing but that is what bearings I'm using in my diff I believe.
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Location: Hobart, Tas
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Sat, 08 October 2005 05:11
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ZZT231 wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 13:32 | I've got Nachi 50KB80ILT carrier bearing fitted on my F Series TruTrac... though I know I have to replace the pinion bearing again...
Cheers.
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Ok, place down here quoted me $80 each for these.
If anyone can get them at a sensible price, I'll happily pay a commission for your trouble.
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Location: Hobart, Tas
Registered: May 2002
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Sat, 22 October 2005 12:31
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Best price I've got so far is $125 /pair for the correct xA6x carrier bearings. What have other people paid?
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Sat, 22 October 2005 13:16
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get me a part number and I can try coventrys for you.
note: the bearings Stitt quoted CAN be used in IRS f-series diffs - it just requires a spacer to be machined up - so the bearing + spacer works out cheaper than the correct bearings.
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Location: Hobart, Tas
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Sat, 22 October 2005 13:20
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draven wrote on Sat, 22 October 2005 23:16 | get me a part number and I can try coventrys for you.
note: the bearings Stitt quoted CAN be used in IRS f-series diffs - it just requires a spacer to be machined up - so the bearing + spacer works out cheaper than the correct bearings.
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That's very kind of you, appreciate it. ZZt231 says it's "50KB80ILT" (earlier in this thread) so I'm assuming that's the correct one.
If you can use the incorrect bearings by machining the centre, I don't get how you can use a spacer... is this what you did?
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Re: MA61 Carrier bearings
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Sat, 22 October 2005 14:23
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yep, me and josh are both running the other bearings.
apparently with my bearings the centre hole is too big, so a sleeve is inserted to make it smaller... they're correct in all other dimensions.
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