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What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Sun, 22 February 2004 03:53
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Just curious.
heard about it before, the Supras use different engines than the 2JZ base in the GT Championships in Japan.
What are the specs of the engines they use and what kinda output, and why did they opt for that over a 2JZ base?
Thanx for any info that can be shed.
Can you get DVDs focusing on these races and cars?
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Sun, 22 February 2004 03:54
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from what ive read they used 3sgte's and 3uz's in favour of the 2j because it sits further back in the engine bay - better for weight balance ..
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Sydney
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February 2003
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Sun, 22 February 2004 04:09
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They used to have 3S-GTE's running uber boost, but now they've switched to 3UZ's stretched to 5 litres. In both cases this is because it gave them an advantage under JGTC rules.
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Sun, 22 February 2004 05:41
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depends on the class
GT300 or GT500?
they use smaller engines to enter the gt300 class
also the amount of boost used depends on the capacity and the amount of cylinders too
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South-West Sydney
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February 2004
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Sun, 22 February 2004 06:51
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does anyone on this forum own a supra with a 3sgte in it?
i dont think anyone has ever done this conversion before - or am i wrong?
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Sun, 22 February 2004 07:14
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people usually go straight to a 2j instead
more power
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Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Sun, 22 February 2004 07:37
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It would be crazy to put a 3S in a street Supra. For racing it makes sense, but balance is a lot more important on the track. On the road, not having your engine explode 'cuz your running too much boost is more of a concern.
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Sun, 22 February 2004 09:35
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i have never heard of a supra in gt300 class. The old 3s-gte supras were always gt500 and the 3uz powered ones are aswell.
mr2's and RWD celicas race in gt300 and do pretty well.
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Sun, 22 February 2004 11:09
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the race-prepped 3s-gte engines have had uberloads of money spent on them to get them cranking out all that power.
People put the 2jz in, because getting 400+bhp out of a 2j is piss easy
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Sun, 22 February 2004 13:58
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but bro... my cuz has a SX celica wif a 3sgte wif 35 pounds mate, it would rip any 2j bro!
Sorry, couldnt help myself.
Yes, Supra's raced in GT500 have 3S-GTE's, running mega boost. Does anyone remember Gran Tourismo? Good old Castrol Supra is still my favourite car!
I have a Zoom article at home somewhere that goes into some details about Mr 100%'s little supra.....
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Melbourne
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November 2003
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Sun, 22 February 2004 14:13
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Castrol Tom's Supra... oh the memories. Over 1000 horsepower buddy... deal with THAT. Mwahahaha.
Can anyone say oversteer? I tended to just crawl around corners, then haul them in on the straight.
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Sydney
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March 2003
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Sun, 22 February 2004 22:10
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They also run the gearbox at the rear of the car in the 3UZ powered supras.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Mon, 23 February 2004 00:30
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i dont think any of them run 3s gte's now, all dropped in favour of the 3uz, and who wouldnt?
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Newcastle
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August 2003
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Mon, 23 February 2004 01:14
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Kinda funny dont you think???
A car that was designed with a straight 6.
Has dropped back to a 4 then done the big jump to a 8.......
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Mon, 23 February 2004 01:22
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Why is it funny? Lost of guys here have put bigger engines in.
The funny thing was when they went back to the 3S. I wonder if it would need to be engineered if it was done in an Aus car.
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Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Mon, 23 February 2004 05:49
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Rear gearbox... I always liked the idea of that.
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Newcastle
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August 2003
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Mon, 23 February 2004 14:45
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I meant funny as in going from one extreme to the next.
Opting for a 4 cylinder then going to a V8, totally skipping the 6 cylinder variants that it was originally designed with.
Kinda get me now?
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Sydney
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Mon, 23 February 2004 22:09
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Yeah but I'm not laughing 
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Mon, 23 February 2004 23:24
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It's to do with the fact both the 3S and the 3UZ weigh less and are more compact than a 2JZ. Add this to the fact they could under JGTC rules make the same power with this less weight and it's a win win situation
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Mon, 23 February 2004 23:58
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heres a question
has any supra in jgtc run a 2jz.. or have all swapped?
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Gold Coast
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May 2002
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Brisbane
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Tue, 24 February 2004 00:14
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thats not what i was asking.. im asking if any of them EVER have... like ever, right at its release even.
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Sydney
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Tue, 24 February 2004 00:16
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hmm.. theres an english page
http://www.jgtc.net/index_en.htm
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Gold Coast
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May 2002
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Re: What engines r the Supras using in the GT Champs and why not using the 2J?
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Tue, 24 February 2004 03:08
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| Jag7799 wrote on Tue, 24 February 2004 11:14 |
thats not what i was asking.. im asking if any of them EVER have... like ever, right at its release even.
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No.
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