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icon8.gif  7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 09:26 Go to next message
I've owned my MX83 for less then a week and the head gasket has blown. You've gotta know that I'm not happy.

Can someone point me in the right direction to have the engine either repaired or replaced? I live in Melbourne.

I bought the car from a "used" car dealer - do I have any legal avenue to use to get them to fix it?

Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
firs things first, unless they gave you a warranty with the car, you have no leg to stand on.

Second, how do you know its blown? I.e what symptoms does it have?

most importantly imo, dont replace it. rebuild the one you have! I just spent $2300 rebuilding my 7mge, and that included a brand new head, fully rebuilt, and all genuine parts. I now genuinely have a new engine...it goes hard, runs quiet and is perfect. Cant be happier.

Thing to remember about exchange engines, most of the 7ms wont be much better than the one you have...

if you were in brisbane i could give you a hand Sad

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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
having said that, if you decide to rebuild it, do it yourself/ help someone so you can keep an eye on things. I was unlucky enough to have bloody pits in my block...big enough to cause the hg to blow again. We put devkon in them, and had the block surfaced 9 tho.
I was also glad i decided to pull down the bottom end, to discover a big end bearing almost eaten right through. had i have just done the head, this surely would've spun eventually...then another rebuild!
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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car, you have no leg to stand on


That's not entirely correct. If they are a licensed motor car dealer they can cause themselves a whole lot of problems. That said, sometimes it's easier to just take the hit and pay for it yourself as it's often a whole lotta hassle.

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rebuild the one you have!


Rebuilding a 7MGE is possibly one of the least educated things I have heard of someone doing. That said, if it's for a daily driver and has not been purchased for the all-but-obligatory turbo powerup then it may be a viable option.

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it goes hard


Soon you will learn Very Happy

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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well...i mean come on...for what it is.
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A tractor motor in something with the girth of a limousine? That's like trying to power a fat chick on a 'fun size' mars bar Very Happy

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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its not a tractor engine Mad

Certainly no v8 though Wink
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
OK, my story is this - I have the thing 2 days, travel about 200k's and it starts to make gurgling sounds that seem to come from just behind the dash every time I accelerate. When I turned off the car, boiled water (no coolant in this baby) filled the reservoir.

Ever the optimist, I booked it into Natrad to get the radiator serviced and after I parted with my $300 they told me that they had trouble getting the air out of the system and it probably had a blown head gasket. Thanks Natrad.

Does it sound like it's blown? It still idles perfectly and the temp gauge isn't going through the roof.

I'm a mechanical novice, so the advice/assistance of any seasoned campaigners would be most welcome.

I'll get a few quotes on what a workshop would charge tomorrow. Any recommendations on who I should call?

[Updated on: Mon, 23 February 2004 11:38]

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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DigitalAE86 wrote on Mon, 23 February 2004 22:26

Does it sound like it's blown?

Yes.

DigitalAE86 wrote on Mon, 23 February 2004 22:26

Any recommendations on who I should call?


Not Maztech.
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
god im sick of some folks constant whining on and on and on about the 7m...

yes the jz series is god's gift to man, all hail ye Rolling Eyes

leigh, norbie, anyone else? grow up...
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Mon, 23 February 2004 23:05

god im sick of some folks constant whining on and on and on about the 7m...

yes the jz series is god's gift to man, all hail ye Rolling Eyes

leigh, norbie, anyone else? grow up...


Pick Me!! Pick ME!! Razz
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I thought you legally had 3 month and 5000km warranty on cars from registered used car lot. Check Consumer rights or Fair trading etc. But yeah I guess they could just dodge it up or not do a "proper" job. I'd be a bit frustrated with that though..I guess it can happen with any used car, always a risk.

Head gasket replacement at mechanic is usually about 700 isn't it. If you just wanted to get it on the road and take the risk on it either fix it yourself or get mechanic you can trust. But V8s idea may save you effort in the long run. Or in with the import motor (people say to replace seals and cam belts) and conversions cost money and time. Depends what you're after.

All the best. Do your homework on it. It's bad it happenned now but when the car is so "new" but I'm sure it'll restore your faith in it as time goes on.
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
$700 soon turns to $2000 quickly

If you discover you have a:

Dented block
Corroded + bend head
Timing cover where water pump outlet is so corroded theres a hole in it! (easy fix)

hence my reasoning for doing it yourself, and doing it properly. Do it dodgy and 6 mths later if youre lucky, itll be apart again.

Also knowing your shit counts here. I fixed the dents in my block by cleaning them out with bit of wire, and then put devkon on them...(its like a two component mixture that turns to substitute metal)

Oh and with regards to the corossion and dents, its not only m series, jzs suffer too!

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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Mon, 23 February 2004 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
7M-Brisbane wrote on Mon, 23 February 2004 21:41

A tractor motor in something with the girth of a limousine? That's like trying to power a fat chick on a 'fun size' mars bar Very Happy


ROFL, I like the mars bar bit, but I'll side with Ed here.

The engine is basically good, and with a little care and attention, it will be fine. That said, if I had $10k and lots of time, I'd do what Norbs did and put in a 2JZ-GTE, but my car already came with a 7M-GTE.

And I have a spare headgasket waiting along with some ARP studs !!!
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Tue, 24 February 2004 07:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You're not going to believe it - the dealer is repairing the motor.

I'll let you know how things turn out.
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Tue, 24 February 2004 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Do whatever you can to inspect the work carried out.

IMHO, I would negotiate a cash payment and do the work yourself, taht way you know the std of workmanship and parts quality that goes back in.

I hate car yards !!!
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Tue, 24 February 2004 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
How old is the car?
And statutory warrantee should be in place. Have you spoken to them, the key is to do it as soon as possible. And a good mechanic will tell if the car is about to blow a head gasket, so look for misgivings in their statements. And if you can prove that the guys new it had a BGH, the'll be paying for it. Its called Duty Of care.

Also try Toyospares in bayswater.
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Wed, 25 February 2004 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
listen to what v8 ma61 said - VERY true
that happened with my mates mx83
he bought it and drove it for 40,000km then it died
i think it was 1700 done at my mates workshop namely coz the head had cracked.
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Wed, 25 February 2004 10:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes, for christs sake, even if it means forking out SOME money, make sure its done properly!
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Wed, 25 February 2004 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I was just making a joke and didn't want to get off topic.

Check your PM Ed.
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Re: 7MGE BLOWN HEAD GASKET - MELBOURNE Tue, 02 March 2004 11:22 Go to previous message
Well the old MX83 has been back on the road for about a week and all is going well.

Thanks to all those who offered their support and best wishes.

The dealer has even called to check that everything was going OK. Used car salesmen have just jumped real estate salesman on the lower levels of the food chain.
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