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Siktoy ra23
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Skyline brakes on a ra23 Tue, 24 February 2004 08:34 Go to next message
Just how hard would this be?
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Tue, 24 February 2004 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mmmm yes this is what I want. I actually already have the calipers and discs.

If you do a search you'll read all my findings...
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Tue, 24 February 2004 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks joel
Ill do the surch now
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Tue, 24 February 2004 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I haven't read what others have written, but I DO know that it's not greatly difficult, I've looked into the process of adapting Skyline brakes onto various Toyota struts myself. Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Tue, 24 February 2004 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The hardest part I can see is getting the rotor to fit the hub. Then worry about mounting the caliper.
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Wed, 25 February 2004 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have held a pair of these modified struts in my hot little hands. The rotor's and calipers are massive. Spoke to the owner who was selling them (I was just the shipping agent). Custom machined stub axles to fit the RA23 strut housings along with a custom billet polished patented alloy caliper mounting bracket to get between the standard strut 90mm caliper mounting bolt holes and the calipers themselves. Its only moneyt after all.
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Wed, 25 February 2004 01:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Patented, are you saying this item is avaliable for sale from somewhere?
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Wed, 25 February 2004 01:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
are the stub axles the same size as ra40 cause i run the skyline brakes on my ae86 which uses ra40 struts and the conversion is simple.
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Wed, 25 February 2004 01:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Any pics of the setup?
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Wed, 25 February 2004 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Turbo RA28,
1. Perhaps - but I lost his phone number and address and it has been at least 2 years since I saw this guy, so hope is gone now.

twinturbo86,
2. There is every chance that this is the case. He used R33 rotors and calipers so whatever spec's that stub axle is, custom made to fit RA23 struts.

Turbo RA28,
3. No, I was just sending the struts to a third party, no pic's came via me.

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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Wed, 25 February 2004 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I would like to know if you have any pics of your brakes you could share with others Very Happy

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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Wed, 25 February 2004 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Turbo ra28
I can't find any info on your findings do you have anything you can email me
benjaminfuller@optusnet.com.au
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Wed, 25 February 2004 22:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=20984&rid=34&S=8f754fbb8d7f398a640d575f9 4c969c5&pl_view=&start=0#msg_174472

But didn't get very far..

I'd really like to see some pics or detailed info on how to mount the rotor to the hub. I understand you need to machine down the outside of the hub, and need some kind of collar made to center the rotor on the hub?

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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Wed, 25 February 2004 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You'll need longer studs, you'll need to increase the centre size, and you'll need to space the calipers slightly from the caliper mounts on the strut, and use longer bolts. If you use S14 4 spots, you can use a (4 spot) R32 GTS (non turbo, 280mm, 4 stud) rotor, or if you use the 'bigger' nissan 4 potters, you'll need the R33 GTS25t rotor (300ish mm, 5 stud). If you use these, you'll either need to redrill the rotor, or start with new, undrilled rotors and drill them. I might be able to take some pics of what it all looks like sometime, if you'd REALLY like Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Wed, 25 February 2004 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haha i'd Really like that! Smile thanks!

I have 280mm, 30mm, 5 stud discs from a 300zx. The calipers also came from the 300zx twin turbo. They are alloy and take the 30mm disc.

Maybe i'd be better off getting the S14 rotor though.
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Thu, 26 February 2004 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just some information that i have stumbled across of late when researching a brake upgrade for my car is that, std 22 and 23series struts run smaller wheel bearings that a ra28, ra40 corona xt130 etc. The wheel bearings in these models measure 3/4 for the outer and 3/8 for the inner, exact same size as bearings as a vt 300mm disc, or anything else with thoses size. Being of a larger and more commonly found size bearing in these struts as apposed to 22 and 23 series struts a swap to these struts would be invaluable and probably save you time and money maching your original stub axel. All that need to be done then is machine your chosen the disc to 4 stud, or you can run the orignal stud patter of the disc as it should bolt on to the stub axel with no problems, all there is to do is get a bracket made to do your caliper conversion.
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Thu, 26 February 2004 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks for all the info guys ill let you know how I go

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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Thu, 26 February 2004 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I looked into using skyline rotors a while ago and decided that machining the hub as much as required was just making a massive weak point in the whole package. You might aswell just use standard TA22 brakes because neither would be any more reliable than the other.
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Thu, 26 February 2004 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Perhaps... but then have a think about the size of the Nissan hubs Evil or Very Mad

The bugger of using Commodore rotors is that it will screw up your offset a fair bit, plus the fact that you'll need to buy the rotor/hub cast as one unit (i.e. pre VR), as the later ones with a separate rotor don't have a removable hub... You CAN always smash an older style rotor to pieces and machine down the hub, but then you might as well use the ra60 (or whatever!) hub!

Also do the 23s use the smaller stub? Bugger, I spose!
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Thu, 26 February 2004 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The problem with the skyline rotors is you have to machine so much off the hub that the wheel studs are nearly protruding the out side edge Confused Most engineers wont accept this and I certainly wouldn't want this setup on my car.
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Fri, 27 February 2004 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maybe using a 2 piece rotor is the way to go? Wouldn't require as much mods to the hub.
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Re: Skyline brakes on a ra23 Fri, 27 February 2004 04:29 Go to previous message
Just suppose that there is some1 who can use a one piece vt disc, just because a cast has been made and all need be done is have the holes drilled and studs placed in. Then you can use a one piece unit.
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