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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Tue, 24 February 2004 10:55
 
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not crap
just grossly misinformed :/
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Tue, 24 February 2004 11:07
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 over the years i have read some interesting stuff about turbo's etc. from that mag.
it cant be anymore wrong on some subjects as Hot4's is.. 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Tue, 24 February 2004 11:19
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magazines = bs
only good info is the info you research yourself
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February 2003
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Tue, 24 February 2004 11:23
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magazines used to be good for porn
now they're not even really good for that
*sigh*
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I supported Toymods
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Tue, 24 February 2004 11:30
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| Cyber-punk wrote on Tue, 24 February 2004 22:23 |
magazines used to be good for porn
now they're not even really good for that
*sigh*
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i hear ya buddy
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Brisbane, QLD
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Tue, 24 February 2004 11:34
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| ae86drift wrote on Tue, 24 February 2004 21:30 |
| Cyber-punk wrote on Tue, 24 February 2004 22:23 |
magazines used to be good for porn
now they're not even really good for that
*sigh*
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i hear ya buddy
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pervert 
but anyways, you would think that before publishing an article, they'd make sure that its atleast somewhat correct in the information department
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I supported Toymods
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May 2002
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Tue, 24 February 2004 12:16
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| Cyber-punk wrote on Tue, 24 February 2004 19:34 |
pervert
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Says the guy with the Ron Jeremy avatar.
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Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Tue, 24 February 2004 12:23
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Tue, 24 February 2004 23:16 |
| Cyber-punk wrote on Tue, 24 February 2004 19:34 |
pervert
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Says the guy with the Ron Jeremy avatar.
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adelaide
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August 2002
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Tue, 24 February 2004 12:33
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and heaps of GTR specials,great if you own one.
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Tue, 24 February 2004 12:41
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| ae86drift wrote on Tue, 24 February 2004 22:19 |
magazines = bs
only good info is the info you research yourself
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And the information/people on Toymods of course....
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Toymods Club Treasurer
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May 2002
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Wed, 25 February 2004 01:32
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All the mags have gone the same route (particularly as they all seem to be owned by the same company)
They only show the end product & maybe which workshop did the job.
They don't seem interested in promoting self help kind of stuff because they're worried about getting sued if some reader does it wrong & blows their car/engine/gearbox/...
I used to buy the old Zoom before they got rid of Julian Edgar & Express Publications bought it out.
I know a few people who also stopped buying HPI after about issue 10 because they basically stopped worrying about the other imports besides the GTR & the odd Supra & Soarer.
Not everyone has $5000+ to do an engine conversion, & it can be done for a lot less as shown by the members of this club.
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I supported Toymods
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Central Coast
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May 2002
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Wed, 25 February 2004 03:13
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| STR8 2.8 wrote on Tue, 24 February 2004 21:47 |
picked it up today, i think it was an older supra/soarer special, flicked through
some sort of supra article...
the dumbarse writer writes something like
"the supra was introduced in austrlia in 1984 with the ma55, with popup lights and plastic flares, but the 5mge didnt peform too well with 103kw"
how crap is he
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How can they get away with making up such crap!? As if a 5M could see anything over 100kw's !! hahaha
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Wed, 25 February 2004 07:29
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they are still alot more reliable than hot 4's for info.. but their dvd's are SHIT boring
i still buy hpi and zoom on occasion if they have one nice article on a car.. or a good comparo(mainly comparo's though)
but not that often
good for something to read while bored
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Melbourne
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January 2003
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Thu, 26 February 2004 05:27
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They all write what the people want to read , like 500hp 2 litres etc, if there printed the truth like 300hp maybe , who is going to buy it ? One of my friend writes for hot 4's and he doubles the hp figure that the owners of the cars tell ..
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Thu, 26 February 2004 06:40
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Yes, magazine writers are well known for "embellishing" the truth. I know several people who have had their cars featured in magazines and the stats printed in the article were completely different to what they had said. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story!
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November 2003
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Thu, 26 February 2004 09:23
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We Shall soon see, the issue due out tomorrow features my little brothers R32 gts-t. The story will be an interesting one as it was written by someone who has never seen the car in person or met its owner, 100% fact sheet.
Though from the title of the story "Home Grown", perhaps they are going to emphasise the fact that it really was nearly all done at home (in Tamworth) by one guy, my brother.
Some of you would know the car it was at the last winter Toymods Dyno day in its brilliant blue livery.
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Thu, 26 February 2004 22:24
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| improvedae86 wrote on Thu, 26 February 2004 16:27 |
They all write what the people want to read , like 500hp 2 litres etc, if there printed the truth like 300hp maybe , who is going to buy it ? One of my friend writes for hot 4's and he doubles the hp figure that the owners of the cars tell ..
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Who are you? more to the point who do you know that apparently writes for us?
It seems that you are the one who is full of sh**. We would never take a claimed power figure and double it. I don't mind if you want to hammer us, go ahead, it's just when you lie and say you know someone who writes for us who does this...that P**ses me right off.
But hey, if you want to say stuff that is so far from the truth, just to make yourself look important, it is you who looks like the tool in the end I suppose...
[Updated on: Thu, 26 February 2004 22:38]
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Thu, 26 February 2004 23:17
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| fuzzy esky wrote on Fri, 27 February 2004 09:24 |
| improvedae86 wrote on Thu, 26 February 2004 16:27 |
They all write what the people want to read , like 500hp 2 litres etc, if there printed the truth like 300hp maybe , who is going to buy it ? One of my friend writes for hot 4's and he doubles the hp figure that the owners of the cars tell ..
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Who are you? more to the point who do you know that apparently writes for us?
It seems that you are the one who is full of sh**. We would never take a claimed power figure and double it. I don't mind if you want to hammer us, go ahead, it's just when you lie and say you know someone who writes for us who does this...that P**ses me right off.
But hey, if you want to say stuff that is so far from the truth, just to make yourself look important, it is you who looks like the tool in the end I suppose...
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man i got the notification email and u were quoting me originally before u fixed it up
I was like WTF?  haha
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I supported Toymods
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Fri, 27 February 2004 02:57
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It was only a matter of time before that happened... 
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Fri, 27 February 2004 03:23
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I only buy magazines for the pictures.
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Fri, 27 February 2004 03:37
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yeah i only get them for the pictures aswell
i cant read 
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Fri, 27 February 2004 07:12
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zoom seems to be the most technical and true to cars atm - doesnt " ruin " the car magazine by splashing boobies everywhere like hot 4's and fannys do ..
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Fri, 27 February 2004 10:06
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| Classique71 wrote on Fri, 27 February 2004 18:12 |
zoom seems to be the most technical and true to cars atm - doesnt " ruin " the car magazine by splashing boobies everywhere like hot 4's and fannys do ..
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What's wrong with boobies? I like boobies.
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Fri, 27 February 2004 11:33
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boobies have theior place and that place is called hustler or penthouse..
IMHO car mags should be about cars .. no more no less
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Tue, 02 March 2004 01:25
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Lets see if it's in the store today
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Melbourne
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January 2003
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Tue, 02 March 2004 01:55
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fuzzy esky
, You are the tool , Think about it , its a Toyota forum and wouldn't you know who is into Toyotas and writes for you ? Think i would tell you . You really are a negative person and that doesn't really make the point for your magazine seem better does it . Just let people say what they want to { and this thread would have been over buy now !!} , sorry to say next time i see a anybody from your magazine i will have a negative view of them .
Sorry for having a point of view ....
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Tue, 02 March 2004 05:08
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| improvedae86 wrote on Tue, 02 March 2004 12:55 |
fuzzy esky
, You are the tool , Think about it , its a Toyota forum and wouldn't you know who is into Toyotas and writes for you ? Think i would tell you . You really are a negative person and that doesn't really make the point for your magazine seem better does it . Just let people say what they want to { and this thread would have been over buy now !!} , sorry to say next time i see a anybody from your magazine i will have a negative view of them .
Sorry for having a point of view ....
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LOL, there are a few guys into Toyotas around here...but none that double the HP pf a car in the features. Fact is, there are only 2 staffer writers in the building these days and the freelancers we have wouldn't do that.
I don't have a negative attitude at all, in fact anytime we get emails asking about Toyota tech, I give them the Toymods website...I'm not going to stop doing that just because you have lied about someone you know working here and changing power figures, so why would you think badly about the people @ hot4s??
What is wrong with you, everyone is allowed to have a poit of view, but making stuff up to sound cool isn't a point of view, it's just plain stupid?
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January 2003
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Tue, 02 March 2004 08:45
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Oww sorry  , must have been my mistake that i overheard one of your " Freelances " , If you are so smart i wouldn't take you to much to realize who i am taking about , they are from Melbourne and are somewhat of a Toyota expert . And yes there mite also be talking shit {but i have known them for ten years , so i don't thing so} , i wasn't bagging your magazine , i did start this thread . So don't get on your high horse , i don't care about sounding cool {if bagging sounds cool to you}, or i would have started on other grey areas of misinformation of magazines in general {mistakes happen} .
It good that you give them the Toymods web site so they can get the point of view of people who have done the work for themselves first hand . Not just read about it somewhere ...
"the supra was introduced in Australia in 1984 with the ma55, with popup lights and plastic flares, but the 5mge didnt peform too well with 103kw"
Like this ...
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Wed, 03 March 2004 08:40
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"the supra was introduced in Australia in 1984 with the ma55, with popup lights and plastic flares, but the 5mge didnt peform too well with 103kw"
Like this ...
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he has a point with this
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Thu, 04 March 2004 05:37
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| improvedae86 wrote on Tue, 02 March 2004 19:45 |
Oww sorry , must have been my mistake that i overheard one of your " Freelances " , If you are so smart i wouldn't take you to much to realize who i am taking about , they are from Melbourne and are somewhat of a Toyota expert . And yes there mite also be talking shit {but i have known them for ten years , so i don't thing so}
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I still don't understand...we have NO freelancers in Melb. Only a photographer...all the stories that originate from Melb are written in-house.
Still, if you say so...I mustn't be as smart as I think I am.
By the way, I have asked around with all the team @ Hot4s and not one of them knows of a freelancer who writes for us and is in Melb...
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Thu, 04 March 2004 08:04
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Wasn't the last toyota engine special done by a Melbourne based writer ? which mag was that hpi or hot4's ..hhmmm , do i really have to tell you .. Because i am sure that was my friends work it has his name on it , or maybe it was just a reprint of work done earlier for another mag .. See that all the time ...
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June 2003
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Thu, 04 March 2004 08:15
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fuzzy esky
your sig says you drive an rx7, but i never see any rx7 related stuff in the mag, i buy most issues, but thats the frustrating thing the mag is good an all but i never see an rx7 stuff paticuarily fc3s stuff cos thats what i own......
ps i like HPI, especially the cefiro and the like stuff that we dont hear much about here!
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Thu, 04 March 2004 22:11
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| lang wrote on Thu, 04 March 2004 19:15 |
fuzzy esky
your sig says you drive an rx7, but i never see any rx7 related stuff in the mag, i buy most issues, but thats the frustrating thing the mag is good an all but i never see an rx7 stuff paticuarily fc3s stuff cos thats what i own......
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Lang,
I drive an Fc3s as well. So far I have have leant it to Whiteline, where they built a suspension package for the series 4/5...The story hasn't made it to the mag, but look out for it in the future. If you need a suspension package, I can vouch for the set up Whiteline fabricated...
I am also taking to car up to RX Enginering soon, so there will be more tech on it once work is done there...
Give it a few months and more RX-7 tech will be popping up from me.
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January 2003
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Thu, 04 March 2004 22:33
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Its called research ... if you had done it before ... Maybe this wouldn't have happened ... But then its properly just a reprint from a earlier article with just some new photos ...
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Thu, 04 March 2004 22:56
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| improvedae86 wrote on Fri, 05 March 2004 09:33 |
Its called research ... if you had done it before ... Maybe this wouldn't have happened ... But then its properly just a reprint from a earlier article with just some new photos ...
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You seem to be such an expert on the topic of publishing don't you. Funy thing is, I have done some research on this. I even asked the boys at Zoom and HPI if we had ever run such an issue (yes, Ben used to be our editor, so I assume he is an authority on the topic of what has run through HOT4S) and no, Nathan, our current editor can't recall such an issue either or any writing contributors from Melb.
So, basically, just give us a number as to when this Toyota Engine Issue was scheduled and released and I will hunt it down and check your information...
If what you say is true, then why don't you just give me the issue number, so I can stop wasting my time.
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Thu, 04 March 2004 23:44
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I am wasting your time ... So you expect me to go search out the addition ? .. So you have gone from " there are a few guys into Toyotas around here" to having no idea what you run in your magazine , or who does the research or writes for you .. Now i will look and see is i have a copy of the article on the weekend , but with most of your products i only read it once then throw it away , as the information becomes out of date so quickly .... Maybe i am wrong its not your magazine , but just called the writer in question and asked him .. yes it was for your magazine group and was published .. And he is thankfully that he is now in another area of media and doesn't have to write anymore ... Does this give you another clue ...
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Thu, 04 March 2004 23:58
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maybe he is talking about the conversion issue from zoom which featured ALOT about JZ and UZ engines...?
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Thu, 04 March 2004 23:59
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| improvedae86 wrote on Fri, 05 March 2004 10:44 |
I am wasting your time ... So you expect me to go search out the addition ? .. So you have gone from " there are a few guys into Toyotas around here" to having no idea what you run in your magazine , or who does the research or writes for you .. Now i will look and see is i have a copy of the article on the weekend , but with most of your products i only read it once then throw it away , as the information becomes out of date so quickly .... Maybe i am wrong its not your magazine , but just called the writer in question and asked him .. yes it was for your magazine group and was published .. And he is thankfully that he is now in another area of media and doesn't have to write anymore ... Does this give you another clue ...
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Yes there are a few guys in the office who like Toyotas...Michael Zammit, who used to work for Zoom was a Toyota nut, but he lives in NSW and never wrote for HOT4S.
Basically I have never said we have no idea what we run in the magazine at all...
And you say that he wrote for our "magazine group"...is that Express Publications? Or Hot4s?? Maybe you are wrong about the magazine that he wrote for.
Anyway...eaisest way to clear it up is to get him to call through to us (02) 9741 3927, or just let us know who it was. If he doesn't have to write anymore, then he wont be worried about having lied about power figures, if he ever did.
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I supported Toymods
On probation
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Brisbane, Queensland
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January 2003
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Fri, 05 March 2004 00:04
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i don't actually mind HPI that much..... everybody knows that it is not a technical manual nor is it a definative guide to car models.... they generally cater for all the nissan bogans getting around although they do have some nice supras now and again
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July 2002
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Fri, 05 March 2004 00:14
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and soarers
dvd are boring as shit though.. they need to spice them up
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I supported Toymods
On probation
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Brisbane, Queensland
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January 2003
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Fri, 05 March 2004 00:16
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love the spice
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January 2003
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Fri, 05 March 2004 00:22
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So you want him to call you
What did i write ... no wonder your research is so poor ... Why should i care about clearing this up ... Why should he care ..
This is just as how mistakes about power outputs etc happen i guess , don't even read what someone has wrote for you 
jag7799 , i think it was more on the smaller engines ..
Anyway i will find it if i can be bothered , doesn't really matter now , i think i have proved how these things occur ...
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October 2002
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Fri, 05 March 2004 02:10
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Fuzzy Esky:
Just looking at your sig. - good call. 1JZ's are becoming passe. Have you thought about the 1UZFE swap yet? Or possibly building a 4AGTE? You KNOW you need a Toyota heart in your ride .
Justin
JZA61
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I supported Toymods
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Fri, 05 March 2004 06:34
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| improvedae86 wrote on Fri, 05 March 2004 11:22 |
jag7799 , i think it was more on the smaller engines ..
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There WAS a tuning guide on the 4AGE that appeared in a Zoom magazine within the last few months from memory.
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Anyway i will find it if i can be bothered , doesn't really matter now , i think i have proved how these things occur ...
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In my opinion you haven't - All you have really achieved is making yourself sound immature. You've been asked numerous times to back up the claims you're making and you are yet to do so.
I think it's a fair call for someone from one of the magazines being attacked here to ask for some specific evidence of what you're accusing them of...
Purely my opinion of course.
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January 2003
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Fri, 05 March 2004 07:26
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Nope can find it , i think it was 2002 , must have been around june / july since i remember buying the magazine when on a contract then ..
Who is attacking Who ? If this is a attack on there magazines it a weak one , If i had started this it would have been about how crap all magazines are in stating correct information in general , do you believe everything you read ?
Purely my opinion of course.
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February 2004
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Re: how crap is HPI magazine
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Fri, 05 March 2004 11:17
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...All you have really achieved is making yourself sound immature. You've been asked numerous times to back up the claims you're making and you are yet to do so.
I think it's a fair call for someone from one of the magazines being attacked here to ask for some specific evidence of what you're accusing them of...
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Too true.
It's kinda stupid to keep going with this after repeatedly being asked to substantiate anything that you've said, and not being able to.
OK, I am biased, I work there also, but nothing to do with editorial. I know these guys, and I know that they know, there is absolutely no point in bullsh1tting in the mag. You'll just get caught out anyway.
And so what if there are mistakes. Sh1t happens. Like, we all believe the news 100%. I'm sure every one of us here, has told a story to find out later that, oops, we made a mistake.
Ferchrisakes, we were told cigarettes we OK for us (lucky I don't smoke).
If you don't like the mag, don't buy it.
It's your right to bag the magazine, but if you don't back your claims it just makes you look like a tool.
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