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Jason
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icon1.gif  Camry Engine info Wed, 25 February 2004 04:44 Go to next message
Hi Guys
My girl friend wants to buy a Camry station wagon somewhere between the 1996-2000 models. The problem is that it has to be manual. Now i have heard stories Thea the 4 cylinder 2.2 liter is pretty crap out on the highway and the six is the way to go but i have also heard other stories that the six is not a very reliable engine and have a tendency to self destruct.
Any views or help would be greatly appreciated.
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Jas
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Re: Camry Engine info Wed, 25 February 2004 04:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keep away from 1996 models if you don't like self destructing V6 engines. 1997+ with the 1MZ-FE V6 are far more reliable.
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Re: Camry Engine info Wed, 25 February 2004 04:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thank you very much Soarer, I really dont know much about them and dont want her to get a dud
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Re: Camry Engine info Wed, 25 February 2004 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No worries. If you have any other Qs just ask.
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Re: Camry Engine info Wed, 25 February 2004 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Are there any problem areas with these cars to look out for
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Re: Camry Engine info Wed, 25 February 2004 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes.... try to avoid any particular model that has a camry badge on it...... Sorry Razz
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Re: Camry Engine info Wed, 25 February 2004 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boris wrote on Wed, 25 February 2004 20:15

Yes.... try to avoid any particular model that has a camry badge on it...... Sorry Razz

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Re: Camry Engine info Wed, 25 February 2004 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It will probably be hard to find information on these cars on a forum like this. Most of the posters are younger and own older models, the Camry you mention is quite modern. Perhaps if you have a family mechanic it might be worth dropping by and having a quick chat to them to see if they know any problem areas. They will be a lot more helpful if you act like you'll bring it to them for a pre-purchase inspecation Wink
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Re: Camry Engine info Wed, 25 February 2004 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My parents had a 1993 Holden Apollo (the V6 Camry/Vienta re-badge). It blew the headgasket(s) at 140,000km's needing a major overhaul because one head warped and bent a cam etc. The lowest price VRS kit for it was ~$800. All up cost for the repair (by a toyota dealer) $3500. I've heard (mainly on this forum) that these v6's were a bit tempramental.

They've just sold it with 350,000kms on the clock (hard km's too - they live in the country) and it was just starting to get a bit noisy and blow a little smoke on startup.

So get the later engine if you can - overall I found it a great car though, it really flew and loved to rev. Torque steer on wet roads was sometimes a problem though Very Happy . I think my Dad had it up to 220km/h with no worries - he came home and bragged to us about it!! Laughing

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Re: Camry Engine info Thu, 26 February 2004 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cheers fellers much appreciated. She really wants one so i guess i will be pushing her to go above 1997
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Re: Camry Engine info Thu, 26 February 2004 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Finding a camry in manual form is more a lottery than a certainty. I was looking for a V6 camry wagon in manual form myself recently, and i had no luck, the best i could manage was a 4 cylinder manual wagon. I'm sure there are some out there, just might be a bit hard to find.
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Re: Camry Engine info Thu, 26 February 2004 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dont discount the 4 cyl models either, although not anything grunty they can out pace quite a few cars. also look into the sv21 (was it 22 for the wagon?) although old most are still in good nick and going strong 300,000kms later Razz

fleet cars are usually auto huh... pitty
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Re: Camry Engine info Thu, 26 February 2004 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No u can get the SV21 in wagon form, im haven't seen an Sv22 and don't know what the differences are actualy, i was always under the impression the SV21R was the last in the 2nd gen shape.
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Re: Camry Engine info Thu, 26 February 2004 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I agree with what every says about the six. My mate had one and said "oh this is a V6", and i said "p-off, doesn't feel like it".
I reckon the size of the Camrys are too big for the engine. I've got an SV21 that's only done 158000klms (and it will not do anymore... seeing that it's in the driveway, written off!) - SO MUCH FOR MY MOD. PROJECT!
But i found that i would be sitting at the lights with 'P Plate Commonwhore drivers' and i'd drag them and give them a run for their money. That was in my SV21.
And for those people who dis' Camrys, i suggest you think about what you are saying. (It's funny how they have the same sort of specs as a Celica).

Anyway back to car searching for me
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Re: Camry Engine info Fri, 27 February 2004 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My mum has had a 98 camry 4 cyl manual from new and it has never given any engine / mechanical trouble at all, and its up around 85,000km now.

The 4 banger is extremely fuel efficent (we got from canberra back to the central coast on half a tank a few years ago) and there nice on the freeway, just underpowered.

Can't comment on the V6. I've driven a few though (widebody and post '97 models, man and auto) and there very smooth but theres no low end shove. Sad
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Re: Camry Engine info Fri, 27 February 2004 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mate, we (our family) has just been through ALL this, we had just sold the landcruiser 'cause it was too exxy and mum wanted a manual camry wagon.

unfortunately they were rarer than a v12 Charade in decent form and only in 4cyl. The only manuals that we were able to find were in the widebody shape ( <1997) and didn't have much poke at all and were very very spartan in what they offered.

Apparently the model before the current one (ie, the one after the widebody), that ran from somewhere like 1997 to 2001 or something ???? - the last of the camry wagons - did come in manual, but I never saw one in our weeks of looking.

My grandpa has an SV21 wagon and loves it. not manual, and not the car you are looking for. I know there are manuals around, and they are very tough and not to bad really. My cousins in tassie have one and love it. (manual sv21 wagon)

You will probably find 3-4 in NSW + VIC in the Widebody shape, manual, and 4 cyl and they will price to about 12k max

What we ended up doing was buying a Subaru Liberty manual wagon. An incredibly well finished car and quite quick to boot. Cheap on the fuel as well.

I was sad to leave the toyota badge behind, but hey, Caldina's didn't make it to Australia. Sad

They are a little more expensive off the bat for similar year vintage than the camry, but you can find them with similar kilometres and similar price, just maybe 1 or 2 years older. What I tended to find was people with camry wagons often took advantage of the toyota's "indestructability", and they sometimes seemed a little worse for wear. Generally I found the Suraru's well serviced.

Anyway, thus endeth the lecture, I hope my experiences of the past month have been some help to you anyway.. cheers

Rob Smile

Edit: some stuff wasn't written very clearly..hahaha fixed now

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Re: Camry Engine info Sat, 28 February 2004 10:40 Go to previous message
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It will probably be hard to find information on these cars on a forum like this. Most of the posters are younger and own older models, the Camry you mention is quite modern.


Guess I broke the stereotype then! I've got a 2001 widebody V6 Camry grandpa car in kitchen appliance white Very Happy

Its no ferrari, but it definately aint a falcadore either Evil or Very Mad , and suits me just fine as a daily driver inbetween driving the weekend toy.

They feel quite sluggish, but it has more to do with the fact that it is sooo smooth & effortless compared to some of the other rattleboxes in its category.

But as mentioned already, its damn hard to find a manual wagon. Plenty of manual sedans though in both V6 & 4 banger.

Cheers
Phil

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