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Bill Sherwood
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A rare 2T-G Sun, 11 August 2002 12:03 Go to next message
Found a picture of the best version of the 2T-G ever made - the very rare 16 valve one

http://www.tassie.net.au/~jar/engine_fil es/2tg4v-1.jpg

Not sure when they were made, but I presume the mid-to-late 70's, and they no doubt paved the way for the 4AGE.

(Thanks Johnny)

[Updated on: Mon, 12 August 2002 20:36] by Moderator

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Re: A rare 2T-G Sun, 11 August 2002 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oh I give up .... I'm typing in the image code properly, but the blasted thing isn't coming up.

http://www.tassie.net.au/~jar/engine_files/2tg4v-1.jpg
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Re: A rare 2T-G Sun, 11 August 2002 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oh great, NOW it works .... !
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Re: A rare 2T-G Sun, 11 August 2002 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill,

No idea where you found it but nice work ! Smile What I would give to get my hands on one of those !

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Re: A rare 2T-G Sun, 11 August 2002 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
But imagine trying to get parts for it? Sad

On this same subject, has anyone got any pics or info on the twin-cam 3K that Toyota made? I know they made some, but I haven't even seen a pic of one anywhere.
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Re: A rare 2T-G Mon, 12 August 2002 06:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
actully there are 2 of those in sydney in a tolmen that peter williamson used to own he ran it up against the ford bda s in the formula mondial that he started it was good but not as good as the fords
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Re: A rare 2T-G Mon, 12 August 2002 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Now whats better, a 4AGE or a 16v 2TG?
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Re: A rare 2T-G Mon, 12 August 2002 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
much of a muchness really the 2TG was the younger brother of the 4AGE anyways.....so a 16v 2TG really would just be a 4AG anyway.

the thing the 4AGE has on the 2TG is its not as old...
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Re: A rare 2T-G Mon, 12 August 2002 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
actully they made 195 hp at 9000 rpm so not a bad motor and were mechanical injection
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Re: A rare 2T-G Mon, 12 August 2002 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message



This is the 18RG 16v version.

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_7140310/Yahoo!+P hoto+Album/18rg16vcr.jpg?bcgF7V9ArCOVvVR0

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Re: A rare 2T-G Mon, 12 August 2002 13:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FWIW, I've seen one of those 16v 18RG's, looked good.
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Re: A rare 2T-G Wed, 14 August 2002 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I just recieed some more 16v 2tg/18rg pictures if anyone is interested. Also pics of the TTE rally team of the 70's, with the celicas and TE27 corolla. They used the TE27 corolla right up to 1977, but never used the TE37 corolla Sad which has made a impact in the popularity difference of the 2 cars I think. The corollas where better than the celicas, but they had to use the Celicas for marketing reasons.
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Re: A rare 2T-G Wed, 14 August 2002 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
send the pics my way if you can get a spare few mins.. thanx

email is in my sig below..
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Re: A rare 2T-G Wed, 14 August 2002 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jonny2TG wrote on Wed, 14 August 2002 11:54 PM

I The corollas where better than the celicas, but they had to use the Celicas for marketing reasons.


this is a fact - though they swapped over to the corolla i believe because the celicas were a bit heavy and underpowered in tte's oppinion - SOOOO they whacked the 2tg and celica drivetrain in the corolla - badged it levin - and started to clean up - the smaller lighter car was much more nimble than the celica - and still had as much power to play with - a good choice there by toyota
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Re: A rare 2T-G Wed, 14 August 2002 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Found quite a few more photos here:
http://cp45021-a.tilbu1.nb.nl.home.com/cbst/foto/m otors/page_01.htm

Damn the exst manifold on that 16V 18RG looks nice.
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Re: A rare 2T-G Wed, 14 August 2002 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://www.geocities.com/jonnyr_1973/engine.html

http://www.geocities.com/jonnyr_1973/engine1.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/jonnyr_1973/engine2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/jonnyr_1973/engine3.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/jonnyr_1973/engine4.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/jonnyr_1973/engine5.jpg

This was the first TA22 to be used, first with the 8 valve head all standard. Big catch can! For the next race, the batery and catch can where in the boot.

http://www.geocities.com/jonnyr_1973/team.jpg

Note the Toyota Hi-Ace! We had one of them, so ugly. The TE27 looks so sweet with black wheels, like mine. I think the same race cars just got painted alot, different colour for each race. Same with the cam cover.

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Re: A rare 2T-G Wed, 14 August 2002 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Those 18RG pics looked very familiar - They're actually the ones that I took on one of my trips to Toysport in Los Angeles.
I wonder how they ended up on that site?
Ah well, they're at a good home i guess. Smile

I'm still after anything at all on the twin-cam 3K's though.
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Re: A rare 2T-G Thu, 15 August 2002 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Has anyone found any pics of the 4TGTE .

Trevor
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Re: A rare 2T-G Thu, 15 August 2002 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes, on my page as well. Also a few other pictures in this rally book I have not yet scaned. Including one on the dyno with turbo glowing red. Its basicaly a 3T-GTE to look at, but different manifolds and turbo of course. And I think they had made it a 2.2 litre or something.

Are those photos above working for everyone? They are out of the rally book, not from Bill. Maybe the top chrome cover pic is from Bill.
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Re: A rare 2T-G Fri, 16 August 2002 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
twin cam 3k...........now that would be a sight!
and i thought the 4KE was rare!

one wonders if those 16v heads are available in the states for the 2T????
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Re: A rare 2T-G Sun, 18 August 2002 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I've seen a 4K-E before, in New Zealand. It was the unwitting donor for the new corner of my Starlet when I had to fix mine after the shunt.
Got some photos of it, and they're on Matti's site somewhere.
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Re: A rare 2T-G Tue, 20 August 2002 01:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TA22-3SGTE wrote on Thu, 15 August 2002 9:51 PM

Has anyone found any pics of the 4TGTE .

Trevor



A few years ago a guy I knew found a 4TGTE in a wreckers somewhere in Melbourne. They didn't have the money at the time though, and the went back a few months later and it was sold
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Re: A rare 2T-G Tue, 20 August 2002 05:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justcallmefrank,

Don't shit stir Rolling Eyes

To compare a purely purpose build race engine of TTE's to a 4AGE is not a fair comparison in anyones language ! Those 16V 2TG's were so far modified from a standard 2TG that I would be surprised if more than 10% of the parts were interchangeable.

Jonny, Pics aren't working for me mate Sad

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Re: A rare 2T-G Tue, 20 August 2002 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jonny,

Mate the Link still works great ! That last pic,

http://www.geocities.com/jonnyr_1973/team.jpg

Now thats why I wanted the MS53 Wagon Smile They are indeed the perfect Tow car. There 3 in the pic to prove it Smile
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Re: A rare 2T-G Tue, 20 August 2002 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey hey hey, I didn't know they were only psycho race versions when I said it now did I? Razz

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Re: A rare 2T-G Tue, 20 August 2002 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The pictures are not working for me.

I get a little red X and what appears to be an address. I cannot copy this address or click on it.

Johnny, do you have the ISDN number on the back of that rally book? Title and author?

I am guessing it may be a bit tough to find, but I was looking for something with some older stuff in it.


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Re: A rare 2T-G Tue, 20 August 2002 12:12 Go to previous message
No, the links don't work for me either, thats just Geocities. I will have another go to fix it.

The good rally book is "Rally Cars", by Reinhard Klein.

ISBN 3-8290-4625-1

And I'm told it was $75.
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