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Jag7799
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unthought of costs of conversions Sun, 29 February 2004 12:59 Go to next message
Front Cut(1jz gte manual front cut, jza70)
Labour for engine install
tail shaft
wiring
exhaust
sump modification
engine mounts mounts
lsd

now this is a 1jz gte into a gz10 soarer which is exact same car as ma61 supra basically
so im wondering what other small things people had to buy or get done aswell as associated costs...
thanks alot

Johal
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Sun, 29 February 2004 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You thinking of buying that cheap soarer IMA1JZ?
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Sun, 29 February 2004 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no.. putting a 1jz gte into my current soarer (pictured in avatar)
but i was maybe thinking of buying it or another one for bodywork donor and maybe the engine if i got that one
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Sun, 29 February 2004 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Are you leaving it auto? or converting to manual
Oodles of costs involved there

Then factor in $100+ for oils and filters
New plugs, possibly new leads (if it doesnt run coil packs, I have no idea)
Rebuild starter/alt/ps if you choose to.
$100+ for belts (timing/alt)
Maybe a new water pump
Thermostat
Radiator service/new radiator
Many many bolts that will be missing.
Radiator hoses
Heater hoses
air intake piping
Factor in a few $100's for things that could be broken on the motor (sensors, anything plastic)
New fuel filter/bigger pump (if required)
Gaskets gaskets, more gaskets, and an entourage of seals
Hose clamps

The list goes on, things you wont even dream off will pop up when you least expect them

Things like, hiring of engine hoist, purchase of engine stand, bits that are missing etc etc etc
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Sun, 29 February 2004 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
converting to manual.. with a FULL front cut.. so still in the frame of the car, jza70.. thats a good list.. thanks alot.. anyone else got any..
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Sun, 29 February 2004 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the cost of buying all that stuff (that cruzsida mentioned) after your car is taken off the road - after a while, your family/friends stop being taxi's....

seriously tho, access to a car while yors is mid-transplant is vital.
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Sun, 29 February 2004 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well actually i should have my gf's car to drive around in... she has no license and it should be road worthy next week.. so i think i should use that... cause im her taxi anyway hehe...
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Sun, 29 February 2004 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BTW....R154 manual + GZ10 soarer wont mix too well

Alot of effort required to fit it. Someone on celicasupra.com forums went to the effort of the swap and its a major PITA.

EDIT: When i did my conversion we sat down budgeted what we thought it would be then added the $500 'arsing around factor'.

Are you going to do thermos or keep the stock fan?

Are you going to keep the stock hydralic water pump?

And if your going to go manual you will need the pedal box assembly from an MA61, clutch master, and all the associated lines.

[Updated on: Sun, 29 February 2004 22:42]

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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Sun, 29 February 2004 22:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whats your gearbox?... and why would r154 be so hard?
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Sun, 29 February 2004 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
W58, its what the supra's came with.

R154: physical size is larger, will need new gearbox mounts and a 'encouraged' tranny tunnel.

If you go W58 you will also need box (der), 2jzge flywheel, 2j clutch, 2j slave, 2jzge bellhousing

thats good enough for another $700-$800, but you can sell the R154 for more. It will just be a pain to find the bellhousing and flywheel.
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Mon, 01 March 2004 02:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Straight from another thread on 1jz conversions, here's the cost of mine...
1jz from jza70 halfcut into an MA70

Lets do the maths!

- Toyota list prices are in brackets, I got some good discounts for buying heaps of stuff at once and the spare parts guy was a revhead too.

Manual jza-70 front cut - $4.5k (was fully dressed with all panels and had a HKS blow-off setup and strut brace)

Seal for powersteering pump - $8 (9)
Engine mounts (2) - $198.18 ea ($248 ea)
TEMS shocks, front and rear - $45.45 ea ($70.87 ea)
Front lower control arm bushes - $125 (Noltec)
Getting the old bushes pushed out and new ones fitted - $33
Machine front disks - $26.40
Bearings and sundry items - $30
Air filter (genuine) - $42 ($49)
New serpentine belt, vaccum hose and fittings - $57
6 platnium spark plugs - $12.50ea
2.5 inch exhaust (from cat back) with muffler and resonator- $300
Front/Rear Wheel aligment - $50
New radiator and cooling system flush - $480 (jza70 one has platic top tanks that crack)
Coolant $40
Synthetic Oil $50
Transport SA approval - $140 (had to go back after initial inspection)
Re-gassing air-con - $300
Total (close enough to it) - $6700. - not including tyres, rego, insurance etc.
This is doing all the work ourselves - wiring, monkey work etc.

You sitaution may be different - but keep in mind a front cut has done ~100,000kms and needs some tidying up before putting it in.

Also the 1jz powersteering pumps can be dodgy - I've had one fail and propblems with leaks, air entering system, noise etc.

It's better to know this before deciding to do a conversion. Also, once completed you've still only got a dead stock 1jz - which you'll want to start modding too.

Not quite as hard as the 1jz into a GZ10 too!

[Updated on: Mon, 01 March 2004 02:34]

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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Mon, 01 March 2004 06:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok, now that I'm on my computer, I can give you my full list

Bare in mind, that I have aleady converted to manual, so pedals/box/cyls/lines werent an issue.

I still havent got an exhaust, or had the ecu tuned, so those prices are guesses/budgets

Motor $850.00
Bellhousing $395.00
Flywheel $460.00
Clutch $495.00
Sump $150.00
Thermostat Housing $55.00
Computer $110.00
Exhaust $600.00
Timing Belt $66.00
Freight $50.00
Freight $40.00
Engineering $400.00
Pits $50.00
Redline Gbox Oil $95.00
Engine Oil $26.95
Oil Filter $10.00
Belt $40.00
Flywheel/P.P Bolts $50.00
Other ECU stuff $50.00
Tuning $350.00
Engine Stand $89.00
Hoist $39.95
Stand Bolts $22.80
Sump Bolts $3.20
Gasket Goo $22.50
Electrical Tape $5.99
Degreaser $7.96
Chain $5.99
Air Con Degas $18.50
Driveshaft $200.00
Thermostat $26.50
Radiator Hose $9.00
Radiator Hose $9.00
Radiator Hose $9.00
Radiator Hose $9.00
Hose Clamps $7.00
Thermostat Housing Bolt $4.00
Fuel Hose $30.00
Exhaust Mod $10.00
Engine Mount welds $20.00
Heater Hose $13.95
Oil Hose Clamps $6.00
Oil Hose $11.90
Tap $15.50
Oil Depth Guage Cover $2.50
Remote Oil Filter $114.41
Starter Motor Connectors $4.80

Total - $5,061.40

I'm sure there will be more costs in the upcoming weeks.
New engine oil, another filter, plugs, leads, prolly get new rotors/caps
etc

etc

etc
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Mon, 01 March 2004 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oh, and I almost forgot, budget in a few hundred dollars for takeaway lunches, and oodles of alcohol

Gotta keep the workers happy
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Mon, 01 March 2004 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks guys.. yeah if i took a carton down to them within in the 1st few days.. they might go a little harder on it 'ey?
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Mon, 01 March 2004 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no no no... beer at the end of the project (or significant milestones like getting it to start), not while they're building it Wink
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Re: unthought of costs of conversions Mon, 01 March 2004 10:02 Go to previous message
hehehe.. yeah... i just want them to do a good job
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