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		unthought of costs of conversions
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		Sun, 29 February 2004 12:59 
		 
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	Front Cut(1jz gte manual front cut, jza70) 	 
Labour for engine install		 
tail shaft 		 
wiring 
exhaust		 
sump modification 		 
engine mounts mounts 		 
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now this is a 1jz gte into a gz10 soarer which is exact same car as ma61 supra basically 
so im wondering what other small things people had to buy or get done aswell as associated costs... 
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Location:  Bayside Melbourne. 
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		Re: unthought of costs of conversions
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		Sun, 29 February 2004 13:05 
		  
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	You thinking of buying that cheap soarer IMA1JZ?
	
	
	
	
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Location:  Brisbane 
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		Re: unthought of costs of conversions
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		Sun, 29 February 2004 13:10 
		  
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	no.. putting a 1jz gte into my current soarer (pictured in avatar) 
but i was maybe thinking of buying it or another one for bodywork donor and maybe the engine if i got that one
	
	
	
	
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Location:  Australia 
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		Re: unthought of costs of conversions
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		Sun, 29 February 2004 13:46 
		  
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	Are you leaving it auto? or converting to manual 
Oodles of costs involved there 
 
Then factor in $100+ for oils and filters 
New plugs, possibly new leads (if it doesnt run coil packs, I have no idea) 
Rebuild starter/alt/ps if you choose to. 
$100+ for belts (timing/alt) 
Maybe a new water pump 
Thermostat 
Radiator service/new radiator 
Many many bolts that will be missing. 
Radiator hoses 
Heater hoses 
air intake piping 
Factor in a few $100's for things that could be broken on the motor (sensors, anything plastic) 
New fuel filter/bigger pump (if required) 
Gaskets gaskets, more gaskets, and an entourage of seals 
Hose clamps 
 
The list goes on, things you wont even dream off will pop up when you least expect them 
 
Things like, hiring of engine hoist, purchase of engine stand, bits that are missing etc etc etc
	
	
	
	
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Location:  Brisbane 
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		Sun, 29 February 2004 14:04 
		  
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	converting to manual.. with a FULL front cut.. so still in the frame of the car, jza70.. thats a good list.. thanks alot.. anyone else got any..
	
	
	
	
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Location:  Brisbane 
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		Sun, 29 February 2004 14:56 
		  
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	the cost of buying all that stuff (that cruzsida mentioned) after your car is taken off the road - after a while, your family/friends stop being taxi's.... 
 
seriously tho, access to a car while yors is mid-transplant is vital.
	
	
	
	
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Location:  Brisbane 
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		Sun, 29 February 2004 22:23 
		  
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	well actually i should have my gf's car to drive around in... she has no license and it should be road worthy next week.. so i think i should use that... cause im her taxi anyway hehe...
	
	
	
	
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		Sun, 29 February 2004 22:46 
		  
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	whats your gearbox?... and why would r154 be so hard?
	
	
	
	
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Registered: August 2002
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		Sun, 29 February 2004 22:58 
		  
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	W58, its what the supra's came with. 
 
R154: physical size is larger, will need new gearbox mounts and a 'encouraged' tranny tunnel. 
 
If you go W58 you will also need box (der), 2jzge flywheel, 2j clutch, 2j slave, 2jzge bellhousing 
 
thats good enough for another $700-$800, but you can sell the R154 for more. It will just be a pain to find the bellhousing and flywheel.
	
	
	
	
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Location:  Adelaide, SA 
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		Mon, 01 March 2004 02:33 
		  
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	Straight from another thread on 1jz conversions, here's the cost of mine... 
1jz from jza70 halfcut into an MA70 
 
Lets do the maths!   
 
- Toyota list prices are in brackets, I got some good discounts for buying heaps of stuff at once and the spare parts guy was a revhead too. 
 
Manual jza-70 front cut - $4.5k (was fully dressed with all panels and had a HKS blow-off setup and strut brace) 
 
Seal for powersteering pump - $8 (9) 
Engine mounts (2) - $198.18 ea ($248 ea) 
TEMS shocks, front and rear - $45.45 ea ($70.87 ea) 
Front lower control arm bushes - $125 (Noltec) 
Getting the old bushes pushed out and new ones fitted - $33 
Machine front disks - $26.40 
Bearings and sundry items - $30 
Air filter (genuine) - $42 ($49) 
New serpentine belt, vaccum hose and fittings - $57 
6 platnium spark plugs - $12.50ea 
2.5 inch exhaust (from cat back) with muffler and resonator- $300 
Front/Rear Wheel aligment - $50 
New radiator and cooling system flush - $480 (jza70 one has platic top tanks that crack) 
Coolant $40 
Synthetic Oil $50 
Transport SA approval - $140 (had to go back after initial inspection) 
Re-gassing air-con - $300 
Total (close enough to it) - $6700. - not including tyres, rego, insurance etc. 
This is doing all the work ourselves - wiring, monkey work etc. 
 
You sitaution may be different - but keep in mind a front cut has done ~100,000kms and needs some tidying up before putting it in. 
 
Also the 1jz powersteering pumps can be dodgy - I've had one fail and propblems with leaks, air entering system, noise etc.  
 
It's better to know this before deciding to do a conversion. Also, once completed you've still only got a dead stock 1jz - which you'll want to start modding too.  
 
Not quite as hard as the 1jz into a GZ10 too! 
	
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		Re: unthought of costs of conversions
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		Mon, 01 March 2004 06:11 
		  
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	Ok, now that I'm on my computer, I can give you my full list 
 
Bare in mind, that I have aleady converted to manual, so pedals/box/cyls/lines werent an issue. 
 
I still havent got an exhaust, or had the ecu tuned, so those prices are guesses/budgets 
 
Motor			 $850.00  
Bellhousing		 $395.00  
Flywheel		 $460.00  
Clutch			 $495.00  
Sump		 	 $150.00  
Thermostat Housing	 $55.00  
Computer		 $110.00  
Exhaust			 $600.00  
Timing Belt		 $66.00  
Freight			 $50.00  
Freight		         $40.00  
Engineering		 $400.00  
Pits			 $50.00  
Redline Gbox Oil	 $95.00  
Engine Oil		 $26.95  
Oil Filter		 $10.00  
Belt		         $40.00  
Flywheel/P.P Bolts	 $50.00  
Other ECU stuff		 $50.00  
Tuning		         $350.00  
Engine Stand		 $89.00  
Hoist		         $39.95  
Stand Bolts		 $22.80  
Sump Bolts		 $3.20  
Gasket Goo		 $22.50  
Electrical Tape		 $5.99  
Degreaser		 $7.96  
Chain		         $5.99  
Air Con Degas		 $18.50  
Driveshaft		 $200.00  
Thermostat		 $26.50  
Radiator Hose		 $9.00  
Radiator Hose		 $9.00  
Radiator Hose		 $9.00  
Radiator Hose		 $9.00  
Hose Clamps		 $7.00  
Thermostat Housing Bolt	 $4.00  
Fuel Hose		 $30.00  
Exhaust Mod		 $10.00  
Engine Mount welds	 $20.00  
Heater Hose		 $13.95  
Oil Hose Clamps		 $6.00  
Oil Hose		 $11.90  
Tap		         $15.50  
Oil Depth Guage Cover	 $2.50  
Remote Oil Filter	 $114.41  
Starter Motor Connectors $4.80  
 
Total - $5,061.40 
 
I'm sure there will be more costs in the upcoming weeks. 
New engine oil, another filter, plugs, leads, prolly get new rotors/caps 
etc 
 
etc 
 
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		Mon, 01 March 2004 06:14 
		  
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	Oh, and I almost forgot, budget in a few hundred dollars for takeaway lunches, and oodles of alcohol 
 
Gotta keep the workers happy
	
	
	
	
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		Mon, 01 March 2004 09:20 
		  
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	thanks guys.. yeah if i took a carton down to them within in the 1st few days.. they might go a little harder on it 'ey?
	
	
	
	
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Location:  Brisbane 
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		Mon, 01 March 2004 09:58 
		  
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	no no no... beer at the end of the project (or significant milestones like getting it to start), not while they're building it  
	
	
	
	
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		Mon, 01 March 2004 10:02 
		 
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	hehehe.. yeah... i just want them to do a good job
	
	
	
	
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