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NSW.south coast.Drifting
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February 2004
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Mon, 01 March 2004 15:04
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hello i was wondering, as a newcomer to the ae86 scene, what suspension mods provide the best performance for your dollar? what are the main issues that need to be looked at in terms of suspension?
also anyone have an article on an LSD diff in an ae86?
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Melb
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Mon, 01 March 2004 23:52
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www.club4ag.com have exactly those articles. You could even run a search thru this forum as well.
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Tue, 02 March 2004 23:47
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It all depends on what you want the car to do?
Do you want it drop on its arse for a street look or drift set-up, set-up for track work, set-up for drag
Maybe a combination of all of them.
A search as mentioned before would be a good start.
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
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February 2004
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Thu, 04 March 2004 22:01
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drift/track there both nearly the same setup but thats what im going for, mainly drift. what is the basic i could get away with??
i was thinking strut bar@front, antiroll bars front and rear, shocks and lowered springs. most of it being whiteline. any more suggestions?
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Thu, 04 March 2004 22:05
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I gotta disagree with your comment about drift and track setup being similar.
In my limited experience they are VERY different. One is setup for road holding, the other to promote sliding.
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Thu, 04 March 2004 22:13
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| 45aken wrote on Fri, 05 March 2004 08:01 |
drift/track there both nearly the same setup
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Bollocks, they're completely different.
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Fri, 05 March 2004 02:19
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its not the car being set up to slide, its to car being set up to handle smoothly(ie. stable etc) when being pushed to its limit. if you ever go in a drift car you'll notice that they do handle extremely well around a track and it the driver input that creates the slide. also you may notice that the suspension on drift car (parts etc) is very similar if not the same as track cars. sure the setup is a little different but there not as far apart as what you think.
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Fri, 05 March 2004 02:39
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I'm with norbie and Turbo RA28 - there completely different setups.
There are even companies in Japan that make parts especially for drift, and they are completely different to parts that you would use a a track car.
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Location:
Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Fri, 05 March 2004 02:51
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you ever played Need for Speed?
If you have, youd notice that there is 2 entirely different setups for drift and circuit racing! yeash!
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Fri, 05 March 2004 03:01
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explain to me how they are completly different and i will believe you. and im not talking about angles im talking about hardware. i know many ppl who race cars i even know the alfa club comp champion, and they can drift there cars like pro's. but if someone can actully proove how greatly they differ i might take it into consideration.
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Location:
Terrigal
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May 2002
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
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February 2004
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Fri, 05 March 2004 03:09
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as i said either proove it or dont worry. can we please get back to the origional topic?
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hello i was wondering, as a newcomer to the ae86 scene, what suspension mods provide the best performance for your dollar? what are the main issues that need to be looked at in terms of suspension?
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Fri, 05 March 2004 03:26
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thanks for the help. just a few more things.
i would like the car to be low,and i bought the car for the purpose of drifting. so i pretty much want a drift machine. sorry to confuse you
i was thinking:
springs 6kg front and 4kg rear (whats this in pounds? am open to suggestion about rates)
anti roll bars (whiteline front and rear)
front strut brace maybe rear aswell
roll center
shocks (suggestions?)
bushings (urathane)
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Location:
Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Fri, 05 March 2004 03:35
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If you want it to be low .. shorter stroke struts would be a valuable investment.
GT4 items are quite a bit shorter and with those in place you will regain a lot of lost suspension travel from lowering it.
Get coilover hardware and while fitting that chop xx out of your strut housing.
Make sure whatever you lower it by you put the same amount back with roll centre adjusters if not you will have bump steer issues.
Traction brackets as I mentioned before will be even more necessary if you want a super low ride.
Those spring rates sound fine for a drift car, maybe a bit stiffer on the rear to promote oversteer.
Make sure the swaybars are adjustable so you can make the rear super stiff to again promote oversteer.
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Fri, 05 March 2004 03:45
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thanks for your help man.
do the GT4 struts bolt in? what modifications are necessary and what do they go for 2nd hand?
do the roll center adj. RAISE the car? (thats what it says on the whiteline website)
maybe like 6kg and 5kg?
or 7 and 5 (i think 7 is getting a little stiff though, as you dont always drift on a track  )
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Fri, 05 March 2004 03:46
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thanks for your help man.
do the GT4 struts bolt in? what modifications are necessary and what do they go for 2nd hand?
do the roll center adj. RAISE the car? (thats what it says on the whiteline website)
maybe like 6kg and 5kg?
or 7 and 5 (i think 7 is getting a little stiff though, as you dont always drift on a track )
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Location:
Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Fri, 05 March 2004 04:17
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Roll centre adjusters do NOT raise the car, the reset the roll centre geometry back to close to factory.
They sit between the steering knuckle and the shock, so they only alter the angle of the control arm and not height of the car.
GT4 inserts fit inside the AE86 strut housing fine, but as I mentioned the housing needs to be shortened as they are a much shorter stock.
With spring rates AE86 seem to respond well to a ratio of the rear being 2/3 the rate of the front. But as you want drift setup I'd guess this might not be the ideal ratio and you'd want to stiffen the rear more.
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Location:
sydney
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March 2004
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Re: AE86 suspension
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Mon, 08 March 2004 09:09
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you first need to work out what you want from the car,to start with i reccomend a good set of springs and adjustable shocks, to go with that check suspension bushes and replace if necessary, and depending on how low you go you may need an adjustable panhard rod. try this first then do other things as you need them. role centre adjusters, traction bars, strut tops etc.. Be prepared to spend money it adds up quick. And just for the record drift and track are different setups.
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