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4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Mon, 12 August 2002 12:16
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before i fit my new flywheel (thanks michael) and clutch, i'd like to get hold of some new flywheel bolts. i know that Toyota is a good option for new OE bolts, but i'd prefer to go one better while i'm at it...
i've tried contacting ARP to find out if they have a solution to their seemingly useless 6 bolt kit (need  . i have not yet heard back from them. has anyone ever found out about this, and if so where can i source them? if ARP is a no go, is there any other options i should look at???
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Mon, 12 August 2002 12:33
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go to a bolt shop and ask for their highest grade high tensile bolts and see what they come up with or contact a performance auto shop or speak to an engineer about the options.
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Mon, 12 August 2002 22:04
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dori i'd stick with the original toyota problems, never ever heard of them letting go - dab of locktite on the end and they'll be as reliable as ever!
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Mon, 12 August 2002 22:25
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yeah - i'd use the factory ones. (can be re-used safely at least once) certainly be wary of using some unknowm type from a bolt place - jut think of what will happen if the flywheel gets loose at 8k rpm!!
T
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Tue, 13 August 2002 01:14
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alright, i'll stick with OE bolts. BTW, anyone know what they are worh new from toyota? as for loctite on the bolts, i thought this was a bad idea, especailly with bolts such as flywheel, etc.
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Tue, 13 August 2002 02:11
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approx $3 each - and they generally need to be ordered in
T
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Tue, 13 August 2002 08:22
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thanks... i have a set on order from Toyota...
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Tue, 13 August 2002 12:23
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definately use loctite you dont want the bolts vibrating loose and dropping the flywheel. i think i may have heard somewhere that if a few bolts fall out you can sheer the rest of them off which wouldnt be a very good option in my opinion. when i put my flywheel back on i used blue locktie which is just a basic thread locker that allows bolts to be undone with a bit of extra force than normal. whatever you do dont use red loctite as this is stud locker and if you ever need to take the flywheel off again it will be a HUUUUGE job. and probably require a lot of heat to loosen the loctite.
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Tue, 13 August 2002 12:37
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To use Loctite properly, you have to put in all the bolts, up to about 20ft-lbs, then one-by-one undo them and put a little Loctite on the clean threads and a little oil under the head of the bolt, then do it up to the required torque.
Then move to the next bolt.
The reason is that a lot of people often use too much Loctite, and it'll soak into the surface between the flywheel & crank flange. That film will eventually crumble, and so let the flywheel move around a tiny bit, which can eventually cause the bolts to fail.
Only a drop of Loctite is needed!
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Tue, 13 August 2002 16:22
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ok, so it is reccomended to use locktite, i will look into this... thanks for all the help guys......
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Tue, 13 August 2002 22:21
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serious 4age racers (this is from phil ryall) do not use locktite - they use araldite - not so much to lock the bolt in, but to fill up the gap around the threads on the bolt - so that the flywheel cannot move - therefore it cannot work to bolts loose.
T
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Tue, 13 August 2002 23:50
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could youp lease explain a little better what you mean about the flywheel moving due to the gap in the threads. which direction of movement are you referring to?
keep in mind this is not a serious engine, infact mostly stock. and all i plan to have is a bullet proof setup. is this totally necessary, or even reccomended for a street car, driven daily?
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Wed, 14 August 2002 00:45
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as the bolts are not an interferance fit there is a gap between the threads and the hole in the fywheel, allowing a small amount of radial movement. the araldite fills the gap stopping this.
if it is a street motor i would just use locktite - or not even bother - unless you are consistantly revving it to 8k+ rpm, there really is no benifit.
T
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Thu, 15 August 2002 09:15
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well the bolts arrived from toyota today... $36 including freight, they had to come from sydney!!!
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Thu, 15 August 2002 10:19
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I think that U was robbed. I got 6 new flywheel bolts for my 1ggte this week for $15. They had to come from Sydney too.
Craig
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Sun, 18 August 2002 07:20
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oh well, i'm not fussed at $3.50 each...
anyway, i've been looking around for some figures for the torque specs on these flywheel bolts. someone got a manual they can look it up for me?
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Re: 4AGE Flywheel bolts
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Sun, 18 August 2002 10:29
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haynes corolla manual reckons 69-78nm
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