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I supported Toymods
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Thu, 04 March 2004 12:30
 
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YAY!!! that looks great, would love a car like that.
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Thu, 04 March 2004 13:05
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Uhmmm, I'm jealous. Not only because you have a Crown wagon with column shift, but also because you get more time to work on your car than I do  Good to see YOU'VE made more progress on your car than me this week though!
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Thu, 04 March 2004 13:06
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Where are the white overalls?
What happened to Dave's hair? Too much Australian Idol for him!
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Thu, 04 March 2004 13:08
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NIce  , now all you need is a BIG Blower and a Supercharger  .
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Thu, 04 March 2004 13:29
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| smt_007 wrote on Thu, 04 March 2004 21:08 |
NIce , now all you need is a BIG Blower and a Supercharger .
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And the difference is????
anyway, nice work GT, lets hope its on the road soon
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April 2003
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Thu, 04 March 2004 16:16
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Is it bolted in or just sitting there?
Nice work so far,i was told the 1UZ wouldn't clear the top arms but maybe it was duff info.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Thu, 04 March 2004 19:11
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good work mate.
shinny, shutup and get on with that ute
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Thu, 04 March 2004 20:59
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At the moment it's just sitting in there, but bolting it in will be a no brainer. It's resting on the AC compressor and the altenator and there's a jack under the gearbox. I will relocate the AC compressor.
I have it on excellent authority that the next model (MS55) has issues with the motor wanting to reside on the upper control arm  . It was witnessed by El Pres of these forums, a mod from PF and the pres of Classicrown. Steve Shipway (the guy who was doing it) is a Crown guru. That made me incredibly nervous as I had already bought the halfcut! The setup between the 40 series is quite different to the 50 series.
Mind you, it still needs a rack and pinion conversion to make it happen. There's a stack of work ahead. 
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Fri, 05 March 2004 00:03
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geez dave. started reading up on ackermann.
ITNF i want to convert the ta22 to rack and peanut...but, ALOT of work...
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Montrose, VIC
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Fri, 05 March 2004 03:42
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Ack, darned ute. All good things take time, don't they?
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Fri, 05 March 2004 03:43
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| gianttomato wrote on Fri, 05 March 2004 07:59 |
Mind you, it still needs a rack and pinion conversion to make it happen. There's a stack of work ahead.
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and if you measure it up, you'll find that you need a 470mm rack, with 350mm arms - just like my Datsun 240C (crown equivelant) does with the 1UZ in it. i'm at a similar stage to you with mine atm, making up the gearbox mount first, then the engine mounts.
i have a Fiat X1/9 rack with similar dimensions ( 570 centre, 300 arms) you can have for a very good price. only diff is, the ball joints are a 10mm stud, versus the 12mm one in the crown. one piece of 1.0mm copper pipe over the stud and it's fixed and you're away. i also have the steering arm.
changing from 350mm arms to 300mm arms introduces +/- 1.7mm toe at 110mm rebound and only 0.4mm of toe at 65mm - your crown will already have about 1.1mm of toe at 110mm rebound anyways, so the bump steer is negligible, and certainly not noticeable unless you like taking BFO speed humps at 60kph. when you lowered your engine into position, it would have brought the suspension down about 65mm-75mm from full rebound - so 110mm is quite a bit.
hope this helps man. if you need the rack, just PM me.
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Fri, 05 March 2004 05:53
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| onejayzed wrote on Fri, 05 March 2004 14:43 |
....just like my Datsun 240C.....
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I like your style! Pics?
The information is extremely handy and thankyou so much for volunteering it . I wasn't thinking outside the square enough so I was unable to find anything really suitable.
I will be doing some other little mods to the front - like using late 70's Hiace stub axles so I can fit some larger brakes - so hopefully this will still be useful. The Hiace stubs come with slightly longer steering arms so I'm a little uncertain how this will affect things.
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Fri, 05 March 2004 06:31
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GT...Nice work mate!
Looks like the 1UZ is really starting to gain some popularity amongst the Toymods fraternity...
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Fri, 05 March 2004 06:56
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| gianttomato wrote on Fri, 05 March 2004 16:53 |
| onejayzed wrote on Fri, 05 March 2004 14:43 |
....just like my Datsun 240C.....
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I like your style! Pics?
The information is extremely handy and thankyou so much for volunteering it . I wasn't thinking outside the square enough so I was unable to find anything really suitable.
I will be doing some other little mods to the front - like using late 70's Hiace stub axles so I can fit some larger brakes - so hopefully this will still be useful. The Hiace stubs come with slightly longer steering arms so I'm a little uncertain how this will affect things.
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nah no pics as yet. i'll have to scan them and drop them onto pbase or something. the shit i had to go thru is unreal - sectioning the crossmember, modding the sump etc. some late nights let me tell you.
the arm length / position shouldn't change anything, it's the radius of the steering arms that introduce bump steer. the only way to know is to get under there with a tape measure, and measure tie rod end to tie rod end. then measure the recirc ball setup you've taken out, rod end to idler arm etc.
and no wukkers about the info. it's taken me MONTHS to get the right rack - ended up with a commodore unit. i've actually ruined a tape measure with all the measuring i've done.
however - i think the fiat rack will be spot on for the Corona 2000. there's a shitload of adjustment in the rod ends too, like 20mm a side.
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Fri, 05 March 2004 12:33
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| onejayzed wrote on Fri, 05 March 2004 17:56 |
nah no pics as yet. i'll have to scan them and drop them onto pbase or something. the shit i had to go thru is unreal - sectioning the crossmember, modding the sump etc. some late nights let me tell you.
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Holy shit!! I definitely consider myself lucky then.
I used a UZS131 Crown Royal Saloon halfcut (with the midsump) - the sump sits beautifully in position. There is a lovely gap between the sump and gearbox for the rack to be mounted and the bolt holes in the chassis where the idler arm and steering box mounted line up beautifully. It's almost like they were thinking 40 years ahead!!!
Hoping to get a bit of kip tonight at work so I can measure up some steering stuff tomorrow.
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Fri, 05 March 2004 12:46
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Please be a nice fella and take some happy snaps of the steering setup... or I may even be forced to come visit just to take a look
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Mon, 08 March 2004 08:22
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you're gonna beat me dave, my parts claim hasnt got approved yet! 
Looks good mate...look forward to the 8 vs 8 challenge
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Mon, 08 March 2004 10:08
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Dave its Looking very good.
Looking forward to seeing you and the crown or corona in Dubbo.
M.J.H. If it was me that told yo the V8 didn't fit i didn't feed you dud info i was at steve's place when he lowered the V8 over his crown chasis (MS5*)
All I've got to add is go the old school CROWN WAGONS!!!!
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Sat, 22 May 2004 12:55
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How's this coming along Dave, haven't spotted another thread recently?
As the Corona's coming along in leaps and bounds I'm starting to think about my next toy... shoot me a PM.
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Sat, 22 May 2004 14:14
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I have been absolutely flat out with work, but the drivetrain is essentially complete.
I have fitted 287mm front disc brakes, a Hilux diff and am waiting for the tailshaft at the moment. All the mounts are complete. I am about 3/4 of the way thru wiring - I'm only able to do a bit here and a bit there due to work. Thankfully after tonight I'll have a full week away from work so I expect to get it all done and running - well as soon as I make a return line.
The other major job is the rack and pinion conversion. I'll be farming this out - I don't have the time, patience or brainulence to work out all the angles etc. Hopefully it will be a power rack so the steering will be light enough for my wife to drive it.
Once the rack and pinion is sorted the last thing is to setup the auto column linkages. I have already worked out what is required so should be pretty straight forward - just a bit of fabricating. Anyway, that's a shit load easier than trying to source an auto column for one of these things. The main issue I had was that the majority of auto columns are from 1960 to 1966 - the problem is that the order of the gears on the indicator is all wrong and doesn't coincide with what is going on in the box (D on the indicator would actually be reverse  ). In 1967, the newer Toyglide box was released which has the more conventional positions (PRND2). Of course this column is only found in the car that had a release period of 9 months. I did find one after a year of looking.
Because it will be a tow car, I'll be getting some air shockers for the back. Because I'm intrinsically lazy, I'll be fitting the air pump and air storage tanks from the Crown halfcut's air suspension to pump those up as required from the comfort of the cabin.
Once it is running and I become energetic again, I will set up the AC. If anyone knows the whereabouts of a 40 series Crown with factory airconditioning anywhere in Australia, I will buy the car as is on spec.
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Victoria, Australia
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Thu, 30 September 2004 13:39
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I apologise for hijacking your thread, but since there are a number of members who have done engine conversions on Crowns here, I thought I'd ask here (since my thread didn't work)
I just wanted to know two things about putting a 1UZ into a Crown:
1) Will I need to convert to rack and pinion steering in an '82 Crown (which had a few changes made to the chassis etc from the MS5x onwards)?
2) Will I need custom engine mounts or did Toyota keep them the same for '88 Crowns. I pretty much know that using anything other than a Crown halfcut will cause problems.
This is the only information I cannot find through search.
Other than that I am very glad to hear there are others out there that appreciate just how nice a vehicle a Crown is.
Thanks a lot for any help
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Sat, 02 October 2004 06:45
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Hey Dave, i sent you a PM......is there still any chances of getting your 5ME MTEU???? If so can you give me a call or send me a contact number?
cheers
Brad.
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Victoria, Australia
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Mon, 04 October 2004 03:09
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Thanks very much for that info
It's a bugger with the engine mounts, I was hoping that Toyota would have kept them the same -- not to worry.
Now I just need to save some cash
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Wed, 19 January 2005 14:28
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The shit I had to dig through to find this thread?!!! Damned search engine!
Dave,
Can you detail your rack and pinion conversion please, preferably with a few shiney photos too? I want to look into it for my RS56 ute?
Clint
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Thu, 20 January 2005 05:38
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Clint, I farmed out the steering conversion.
After checking the bumpsteer in the original system, bumpsteer using a Commodore rack was checked. The rack was positioned so as to minimise bumpsteer (I have less than 1mm bumpsteer at full droop). They made a crossmember out of cold drawn seamless steel (rollcage spec stuff) that bridged the engine mounting points on the chassis. From this they made some brackets which hold a VN Commodore power steering rack in the predetermined minimal bumpsteer position. I wanted to keep the Crown steering column so they modified the end of the steering column (cut and splined) to accept the Commodore universal joint link. I then got a power steering line made. The steering is delightful.
Universal joint.
Rack in place.
Tie rod ends. VN needs to be sprayed over. They are one of four non Toyota components in the car.
Going back to exhaust shop next week - I will take better pics of the actual crossmember when I can get under the car properly.
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Thu, 20 January 2005 06:46
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| gianttomato wrote on Thu, 20 January 2005 16:08 |
Tie rod ends. VN needs to be sprayed over. They are one of four non Toyota components in the car.
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Just pretend it is from the Toyota Lexcen !!!
Looks really neat , I'd hate to think how much that would have cost !!!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Fri, 21 January 2005 06:24
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Thu, 20 January 2005 14:46 |
I'd hate to think how much that would have cost !!!
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Bah, it's not our money Mike, don't worry about it?! How much Dave, and who did it?!!!!
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Fri, 21 January 2005 07:12
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It was actually surprisingly little given the masses of work involved and included all parts too  ! People would have paid more for, say, an intercooler.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Dad, can I borrow the Crown?
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Fri, 21 January 2005 07:56
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guarantee I didn't pay more for my fat-bodied intercooler - but yes, that thing is lovely - kudos
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