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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 07:04
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date is set for 1st apr.
I get the prosecution info 25th march
Talked to the chamber magistrate while I was there, and he seemed to think I had a pretty good case (although he was careful not to advise me as to what I should do in terms of pleading)
basically, burden of proof is on the cops.
They have no visual witnesses to the accident, 1 guy who heard the accident, and the testimony of the officers on the scene.
I was in the car, and have photos to support the fact that the flat tyre caused the accident.
They need to prove either
a) I was drunk (I blew 0.0 on the breathaliser)
b) I was speeding (no visual witnessees of any kind)
c) Driving in a dangerous manner which caused the accident.
so on the 1st of april, think of me
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Location: Bayside Melbourne.
Registered: May 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 07:10

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Good luck. Make sure when you win, you flip the bird to the cops on the way out.
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Location: Cabramatta, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 07:13

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Who wants to find out who the judge is?
We could play a wicked April Fools joke on Draven!
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 07:14

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I would, but one of them is pretty hot
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Location: Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 07:16

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Good luck in court.
How much is it going to cost you?
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Location: Sydney
Registered: December 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 07:19

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If you win, you can go see Tiesto live. He's playing on April 1st.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 07:20

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$61 court costs, if I lose, + whatever fine the magistrate deems appropriate (usually stays at the same as on the ticket, in this case $176)
magistrate has the power to jack the fine up to $550 if he thinks I'm wasting the courts time or the cops can prove I was massively negligent, but otherwise it's just the $61 - police prosecutor, acting on behalf of the govt, can not make me pay the cost of his time (as would happen if you were challenging a council or other body - then you're up for around $300+ per hour in legal costs if you lose)
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 07:29

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go greg
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Location: Tamworth
Registered: October 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 07:32

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hope it all goes in your favor pal, good luck.
you said one is hot don't make it worse by tuning while in court wait till after and good luck on that one as well
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 07:37

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eep
all this support
I'm imagining the "toymods support group" sitting in the back of the court, with signs saying "free Greg, he's our doughnut king!" and yelling and whooping ehenever I make a good point, and jeering at the cops
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Location: Tamworth
Registered: October 2002
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 07:48

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lol I was just thinking that...
shall we go cheer him on boys?
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Location: UK at moment
Registered: May 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 10:55

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.. a car park full of toymods cars at the courthouse..
hehehehe
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Location: Wahroonga
Registered: June 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 11:24

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careful they maybe able to prove that u were speeding by ur skid pattern, thats if u left 1. As for the drink driving it sounds like u got that one beat. And neg driving well if u knew that the tyre was flat and u were driving too fast, this could be seen as neg driving.
I'm not a lawyer don't take my word on this. But good luck anyway.
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I supported Toymods On probation
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Registered: January 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 11:53

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the dravens court appearance cruise???
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: October 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 12:57

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Wish I could be there. I love this shit.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 14:40

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they took no photos at the scene, and didn't examine the skid marks, so they have no proof there.
And, since the burden of proof is on them, they'll have a BLOODY hard time proving I knew the tyre was flat 
I felt a lot better about my chances after talking to the chamber magistrate
I'll post more on the 25th, when I know what their argument is going to be
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I supported Toymods Toymods Club Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Fri, 05 March 2004 20:29

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Good luck dude. Hope it goes well
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Location: 1st street on the right
Registered: November 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Sat, 06 March 2004 07:52

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Take it from me (remember I've been there) 6 days to prep for it, request an adjournment and go see one of those "specialists" in traffic cases. Should be adjourned for a month, just to get an idea of what your are in for. Their first consult is usually free and most are no win no fee if you do go with them (not that it sounds like you need to) but they may sound out an idea you could run with.
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
Registered: March 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Sun, 07 March 2004 01:02

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good luck dude
i think a toyota dominated carpark would be very cool.
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
Registered: March 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Sun, 07 March 2004 01:03

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oh and greg,
you weren't in ballarat a few nights ago were you?
some dude came into work and looked heaps like you.... well i think anyway....
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Location: Posts: 992738234
Registered: February 2004
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Re: My court appearance!
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Sun, 07 March 2004 01:21

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i like ham, oh yeh good luck man!
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Sun, 07 March 2004 01:48

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no, I didn't just happen to pop down to ballarat on a whim 
(although, now I think of it, I have done that before)
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
Registered: March 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Sun, 07 March 2004 06:45

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ok it must have been an imposter... looked like you from the ma63 wreck vid.... strange
he was probably attracted by the white ma61 sitting out front of work....
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Sun, 07 March 2004 08:03

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5'11", long black hair, kinda weird looking
that'd be me Possibly wearing a very tight black top, for an excursion out to mardi gras (and gay bars)
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Club Member
Location: Sydney, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Sun, 07 March 2004 08:31

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Good luck dude...
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Location: Brisvegas
Registered: June 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Mon, 08 March 2004 02:00

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ditto
give em hell
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Location: Sydney
Registered: January 2003
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Registered: March 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Mon, 08 March 2004 22:42

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When my mate had to goto court for neg driving, the prosecuting police didnt even show up because they had nothing..
Its the best thing to hope for
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Location: Wahroonga
Registered: June 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Mon, 08 March 2004 23:05

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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: My court appearance!
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Tue, 09 March 2004 07:44

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What 1jz?
As listed on my rego papers, my supra only had a 5m-e engine. Unfortunately, that car is now cubed, so the only proof rests on the rego papers.
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
Registered: March 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Tue, 09 March 2004 10:50

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nice work
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Location: In Little Italy ;)
Registered: December 2003
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Re: My court appearance!
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Sun, 14 March 2004 23:24
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Epping's not that far....
and anyway on April Fools the only decent fool around this joint would be you and of course when we think fool...we think Draven so definately our thoughts will be with you on that day... however, my brains getting rather sieve like and I may forget between now and then 
Quote: | the dravens court appearance cruise???
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LoL count me in..I'll turn up in the only non-toyota
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