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ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 06 March 2004 06:39
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Hey guys i thought this might be a good place for all us ST162 owners to chat, i notice latly there has been lots of chatting going on in people members ride threads, so to stop them all getting gloged up we can chat here.
so... i like stuff. 
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June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 06 March 2004 08:14
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I like stuff too.. wow 
I'ld also like to discuss how gay t-vis is  and how toyota always goes half arsed on celica's  where's my 150kw 3sge huh? 
Oh well only two more years and I'll be designing my own stuff for engines hopefully..
And for a serious question, does anyone know the limit of the 3sge tranny? also the limit of the 5sfe tranny, and any differences between them. I'm guessing the 5sfe has bigger ratios as the 5sfe is less peaky compared to the 3sge...
*ponders the thought of designing pnuematic lifters for a 3sge* wonder how long that would take... better get studying.
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September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 06 March 2004 08:56
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Damn thats scary i like stuff too!!
OK firstly can everyone give details on their ST162 and Mods .
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Helensvale, Queensland
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March 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 06 March 2004 09:36
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I have a 184, my friend has a 162, his details are
ST, 13" rims haha.
3sfe that is almost rooted, but we can easily wind it off the speedo (180kmh) and he beats my 184 with 5sfe in good condition, it's just some freaky stuff that he can go soo fast.
Just wondering if you guys have driven a car with a 3sge and how it compares to a 3sfe or 5sfe because i might be doing that swap in my 184.
Other mods on his car are removed front lower lip (half of it was smashed off), stolen stereo, neons, fuzzy dice etc 
This is our cars, both stock.
Yay!
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Wahroonga
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June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 06 March 2004 10:03
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ok mods...
alot of ppl know what i have done, but heres some new ones that i haven't put up yet, i got some CSA Pursuit 17" rims with 205's, and a red isotta steering wheel. Yea i know these are ricy mods but they are the first i have done.
I'll try and get some pics of it with the new wheels and steering wheel this week.
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Geelong.Vic.AU
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September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 06 March 2004 10:42
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Ey all,
I've just brought a 87 ST162 SX, I get it on tuesday. The car has had most badges removed, and looks very clean, has a sports exaust (not sure what parts but it sounds great), also will have some car audio componets as of tuesday.
Will post pics asap
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 06 March 2004 11:06
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mines come from queensland, engine has been replaced (I now have a spare 3sge in the garage) with a jap spec 3sge, only because it was cheaper then replacing piston rings according to toyota genuine pricing. All seals replaced, belts replaced injectors flushed, radiator flushed everything nice n cleaned up pretty much. Lowered, apparently 50mm, doesn't look that low. King springs and monroe gt's.
ICE
front: pioneer 6" 3way's 50watt rms
rear: kicker 6x9" 3way's (don't know rms but they can handle a shite load)
head unit.... broken being replaced with a pioneer dehp2650 probbly then sometime in the future adding in a 4 channel amp
Other then that future mods may include many things, depends on which way my mechanical engineering course takes me
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 06 March 2004 12:55
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and if anyone posts here who DOESN'T have a 162... 
well you can just click on my sig for all the mods you want on my loverly ride (well I like it) Keen to get some dirt on a 184 g-box as it is likely the next thing going in my car. I hope the ratios are good...
Go the 162! The 3sge goes HARD
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Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 06 March 2004 13:51
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| RobST162 wrote on Sat, 06 March 2004 23:55 |
and if anyone posts here who DOESN'T have a 162...
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Keen to get some dirt on a 184 g-box as it is likely the next thing going in my car. I hope the ratios are good...
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I guess that means Adrain is out sorry buddy.
I am pretty sure the ratios are about the same if anything they kinda may be a bit further apart, I know the final drive is a lot better you won't rev as high on the hiway 
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Castle Hill, Sydney
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January 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 06 March 2004 22:02
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Dont really have much for a mod list, just ricey stuff
17"x7.5" Kool 6 wheels, sprayed front lip same colour as the car. gear knob and a unifilter.
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Castle Hill, Sydney
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 06 March 2004 22:03
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oh and i forgot the snap-on seat covers, adds an extra 5hp
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 06 March 2004 23:36
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I am pretty sure the ratios are about the same if anything they kinda may be a bit further apart, I know the final drive is a lot better you won't rev as high on the hiway
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buddy but this means SLOWER acceleration! AHHHH!
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 00:12
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ok, got 86 st162 with the 3sge. mods thus far due to no money are: cat-back exhuast including cannon muff, K&n high flow air filter, stezza, tint, nice sticky tyres, footwell neons, patined bits red eg calipers, exhaust manifold cover, radioter car and tweeter grills, stickers etc
just a car that gets me from a to b just as fast as a vl but with more style and class and handling, and lovely for a rip down the great ocean road
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 03:10
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Wouldn't the 3sge box be stronger anyway?
I just want to know the physical limit of the box.
Also anyone know whether or not the internals can be ripped out and maybe replaced with st165/185 gearing?
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Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 05:20
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Pretty sure they have the same ratios, got a friend with one in his car he reckons it feels the same, except for 5th best bet is to ask ._T_. (you know the wili e. cyote avatar) he know all the tech about the s series stuff.
Was thinking about that for my car charlie but It's not possible, they are different series of transmition.
nahh the boxes on the ST162 always have a prob with 2nd gear syncros going, they are to weak in 2nd.
Well the SV21 and ST184 use the same boxes, so do the SW20 MR2 with the 3sge (just reversed linkages)
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 05:29
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I want a st165 
Hmm, wonder if I'll know enough people at the end of uni to build a mid mount rear drive 162 and actually get it engineered for road use haha that would be quite something
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Wahroonga
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June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 09:04
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that would be very unique but i think it would have terrible cooling problems along with all the other problems it would have. It would probally cheaper and easyer to by an MR2 half rear cut and weld that to the front of a 162. but hey if u do it i would love to see it and drive it.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 09:06
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I think corolla's are better in look's/performance 
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 10:53
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I am a big fan of the black stripe, the white look to timid.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 11:02
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leave the mid black stripe and paint the bottom one?
might be what your looking for or get some fully sik stikaz for doze extra horsies
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 11:43
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Yeah i duno about the lower strip below the door, wiso did you put that on yourself?.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 11:58
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nahh they come with that man your has it as well, just your bottom bit is painted black so you won't notice it as much, beside I removed it now as you may not have noticed in that photo in my bonnet poll thread.
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 12:00
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keep the black stripe dude, no question.
it breaks up the white very nicely
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Canberra
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 12:07
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Yeah I wasn't gonna get rid of it I love having it black, this is just an SMT_007 initiative for his personal benefit.
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 13:04
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Wow I don't mind without the stripe...
I saw a White ST-162 SX completely debadged, 16" rims, exhaust, go past on Springvale Road, and it looked and sounded INSANE....
ONE of the nicest (and only) debadged white st-162s i've seen LOL
hahahaha
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 13:08
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anyone like corollas?
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Sydney
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 13:10
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The stripless celica looks like a 5th gen celica to me, but i like it stripless and painted over white .
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Wahroonga
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June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 22:20
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I say keep the white stripe. I was going to say the front quarter pannel looks like the real early RA2x front quarter pannel without the stripe, and yea it also looks a bit like the ST18x without the stripe. So keep the stripe it gives it definition.
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Geelong.Vic.AU
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September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 07 March 2004 22:49
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Once I pick up my car I will post pics, but mine has no stripes, its just all white. It has also been debadged.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 08 March 2004 10:11
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| doobs wrote on Mon, 08 March 2004 09:49 |
Once I pick up my car I will post pics, but mine has no stripes, its just all white. It has also been debadged.
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PICS PICS PICS?
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Geelong.Vic.AU
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September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 08 March 2004 10:15
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I certainly will have pics up tommorow or wendsday. I just brought it, so I havnt had the chance to get photos.
On another note, what are some cheap or value for money performace mods for a st162?
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane, Queensland
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January 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 08 March 2004 10:20
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I've seen driving around a celica like the white one up the page... its got green chamelion type paint dumped on its arse with massive wheels and some kinda turbo engine which i would assume a 3SGTE. I'll try and get a picture of it for you guys 
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Geelong.Vic.AU
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September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 08 March 2004 11:11
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ey all,
At what rpm does the 3sge make its peak power? and in a drag how high should I rev it on take off (in a munual)?
Also just out of curiosity how do u rekon id fair against a 84 cordia turbo?
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Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 08 March 2004 11:42
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the 3SGE hits peak power at 6000rpm, I used to drop mine (3sge) from about 3500-4000 with no problem, [though with the GTE I drop it at about 2500, otherwise I sit an spin ]
if it was a stock cordia turbo you'd probably come out on par with him, but hey lets be realistic, are there any "STOCK" cordia turbos left in existance, If hes running more boost or most standard mods, he'd probably kill ya
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Sydney
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 08 March 2004 14:54
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have a friend who did a Gtech run with a stock NA 162 (except for a 2"cat back exhaust  ) he ran 16.5 sec 1/4, so see they still have it, then his big end oil seal blew and filled his gearbox with oil and siezed his engine, now he has a perfomance rebuilt mr2 3sge keen to see what it does now, I'll get mine Gteched soon as well.
Ohhh yeah I'd be keen for some skirts from them, but I have a better plan, The SSV kit for the skirts it's like $350 or something for them supply only, I can get the exact same bodykit from Newgel here in Canberra, and the skirts are $249 supply only, damn I know what I am going for  Sucks to the Sydney guys 
[Updated on: Mon, 08 March 2004 14:59]
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 08 March 2004 15:09
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| wiso wrote on Tue, 09 March 2004 01:54 |
Ohhh yeah I'd be keen for some skirts from them, but I have a better plan, The SSV kit for the skirts it's like $350 or something for them supply only, I can get the exact same bodykit from Newgel here in Canberra, and the skirts are $249 supply only, damn I know what I am going for Sucks to the Sydney guys
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I will drive to canberra , its not like your in Perth hehe.
: http://www.newgel.com.au/
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 08 March 2004 22:35
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have a friend who did a Gtech run with a stock NA 162 (except for a 2"cat back exhaust ) he ran 16.5 sec 1/4, so see they still have it,
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hmm I wonder if an 80kw Celica could do low 15's...
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I supported Toymods
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 09 March 2004 01:32
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I will drive to canberra!! Stoopid SSV quoted me $750 for the side skirts painted and fitted, which is crazy!
i say body kit group buy!
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 09 March 2004 03:06
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yeah Scott I was quoted $750 to get hem painted and fitted as well from newgel, but supply ony price is cheaper than SSV, I got a friend with spray equipment, So I am just gonna get the skirts, I'll paint and fit myself . and I have another friend here who is ganna get the newgel kit soon, I'll probably ge mine at the same time.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 09 March 2004 08:56
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haha yeah too true, maybe I don't wanna get the skirts then. Ohh well I'll always have the rarity of the GT4 bar to make me stand out in a crowd, the thing I really want the most is a set of those little GT4 skirts (you guys now the small black strip below the doors that made a square bottom), If any nows of any of these around please let me know.
Yep there was a 3sge that had more horsies in japan, but they also had the standard one we have, just depends which one you got?
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 09 March 2004 09:33
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if an 80ATWKW st162 runs a 15 rob - what would a 150ATWKW gt4 run ? 13's 
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 09 March 2004 10:46
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Mines the jap one with out all the EGR crap, yes I know it's not legal, yes I know that I should go and tell vicroads I've changed the engine seen as it has been in there for 6 months, oops. 
But yeah I'll read the exact engine code off it tomorrow to see what it actually is worth.
What's a run cost on a dyno anyhoo?
Oh, and as you might have realised the power to weight ratio in terms of times down the quarter or 0-100 times is an exponential graph not linear. That's why my mates fairmont with a better power to weight ratio is slower then my celica .
but if you want to find out why not just take it to the drags?
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 09 March 2004 11:16
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I will - in time - got to run in the new fresh pine scented shiney motor first
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Geelong.Vic.AU
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September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 09 March 2004 12:15
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Ey all,
I picked up my sleeka today :D:D:D:D:D im very happy with it. great to drive and it looks so good. im very happy.
Now i just goto install the audio gear. Any one got tips on makeing pods for 6.5" woofers?
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 09 March 2004 13:34
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f an 80ATWKW st162 runs a 15 rob - what would a 150ATWKW gt4 run ? 13's
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at least buddy.. lauch it right. I am dying to konw what I can squeeze out of my champion sleeker.
doobs, show us your pics man!
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 10 March 2004 01:41
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| RobST162 wrote on Wed, 10 March 2004 00:34 |
at least buddy.. lauch it right. I am dying to konw what I can squeeze out of my champion sleeker.
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Exactly there - if the driver doesnt muck up - ie a bad launch - its a 13's low 14's car easy
go the champ celica BTW
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 10 March 2004 03:35
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Damn electrical gismos, camera batteris are flat. ill try stooge some from some where.
I have a big problem consering my sleeka, I CANT FIND A HOLE FOR MY 4GA power cable. Does anyone know of an easy place in the firewall that will let me put my 4ga cable through?
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 10 March 2004 07:00
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Hehe, I'ld show you how I've mounted mine, but you'd just laugh piece of wood to fill the hole between the curvy door handle and the original front speaker/dash area, then carpeted and with a hook kind of device on the back that holds it onto the map holder at the bottom of the door, gives you a fair amount of space to work with for depth my current 6" are pretty deep. As soon as someone nominates a good free webspace provider I'll put up some pics
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 10 March 2004 07:10
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| charliechalk wrote on Wed, 10 March 2004 18:00 |
As soon as someone nominates a good free webspace provider I'll put up some pics
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Go to www.pbase.com
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 10 March 2004 11:19
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I was thinking free accounts Not 30 day trials
I'll find one now and post them up
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 10 March 2004 11:50
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hmm your engine bro.. it looks SO different to mine.
What's the deal.. I think I SHOULD know this.. but I don't is it a gen2?
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September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 10 March 2004 11:52
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Ey all,
Was out on my first cruise in my sleeka, man am i happy. its so great to drive. I'm very happy with my purcahse. I will get pics asap, but im broke now and cant find ne batteries
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Epping, Sydney
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 10 March 2004 11:55
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dude I will MAIL you batteries if you need them
what's your addy..
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