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Registered: November 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 May 2004 06:05
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um yeah my mate in white st162 is just going to get some stockies and paint them black and lower it. looks nice
.....but powder coated rims look better.
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 May 2004 06:49
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Draza I'll have a look through my tear down and rebuild book it's got quite a few elec circuits, If I find the one your after I'll scan and send it to ya some how.
Also, does anyone know how they improved (I'm guessing the head) on the 2nd generation 3sge so that it didn't require tvis, also whether or not you could modify the 2nd gen to match up with a tvis manifold and what the outcome would be? I know this should be in tech but hey somebody here's gotta know something right
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Location: Canberra
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 May 2004 08:57
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Charlie I think the gen2 3sge still had Tvis on it but I could be wrong, I thought they only got rid of tvis for the gen3. cause I saw a gen2 in an mr2 and it's intake manifold still said T-VIS (like it's real important )
hey adrain those ones in that pic are the stock 14" rims from the ST162 series2. Since you don't have alot of cash I'd say just go for the painting, cause powder coating I know is expensive.
Doobs, It may be best otherwise with super low springs you car is gonna be one of those that you see just bouncing about and will make for one rough ride, getting the right shock for the springs could make it still smoothish.
eski boy, doesn't mean it's a jap import just because of the seats, those sports bucket seats came as a factory option, or they could be installed later. It's probably just an SX.
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Location: Canberra
Registered: April 2003
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Location: Wahroonga
Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 May 2004 10:00
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thx, i'll try and get it all together for easy access.
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Location: Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered: September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 May 2004 12:15
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Ey all,
When you's change ya spark plugs, what do you use to take em out eg. the stock thing they give ya or some other tool?
If you use the stock thing did it come with a handle to put in the holes at the top or do you just use a screw driver?
Also what sort of spark plugs do you use, and what is the gap for a 3sge?
Thanx for the help, as you can tell im a novice when it come to engine work (evan as basic as this) so any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 May 2004 13:43
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http://www.japparts.com.au/products/stock-arriving .html For those sticking with the 3sge, have a look at the half cuts avaliable in the toyota section, Celica 202 3sge for 2200$
that's 195bhp and vvti with no doubt a proper gearbox. I'll be ordering in one of these after I finish uni that's for sure haha
Just thought I'ld post it incase anyone was interested
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 02 May 2004 23:18
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ME TOO!
we can do the swap together.. I finish this year? how about you
Wiso, LOVE the post mate.. good stuff
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Location: Vic
Registered: April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 May 2004 03:09
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Are there many 165's floating round Toymods???
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 May 2004 03:10
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hardly any.. and no regulars *sniff*
till I get mine
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Location: Vic
Registered: April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 May 2004 03:13
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There is now! Haven't gotten round to posting something in the members rides section, but i'll get there. I was going to wait till i get some rims, but various other projects have put them on hold. The sleeper look is growing on me too...
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 May 2004 03:15
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woohoo!!!!
I approve
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 May 2004 03:58
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finish in another 2 and a half years... oh well
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 May 2004 12:55
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RobST162 wrote on Mon, 03 May 2004 13:10 | hardly any.. and no regulars *sniff*
till I get mine
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*cough* ahem * coughh * St185 *
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Location: Canberra
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 May 2004 13:31
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Sorry Stuart I think they were talking about ST165's not ST185's there are heaps of ST185's on here.
Hey Rob love the new avatar.
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Location: Elwood, Melb
Registered: August 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 May 2004 13:38
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RobST162 wrote on Sat, 01 May 2004 14:35 | the controller is in the door, and is easy to get to.
I have 3 spares here at home if you want/need one. I don't now if the ST model had central though dude, but if you need a controller you can have one
Rob
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Cheers mate, i'll have a look when i can be bothered, but remember i live in melb which means you'll have to post them, but if i need them i'll pay for the postage.
doobs:
Quote: | 1. Im almost about to buy a set of springs for the silly car, but I need to know, will i have to buy new shockers aswell? of will the stock ones work fine? The springs I would get lower the car about 2.5"
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It probably is best to get shockers as well if your going to buy springs or else it will be rough, KYB shocks aren't bad for the price, and a set of super low King springs will go well. I just cut my springs cos i know i'm getting new suspension once my conversion will be done. But it bounces around a fair bit.
You might have seen my car in Geelong before as i used to live there.
Quote: | 2.When you's change ya spark plugs, what do you use to take em out eg. the stock thing they give ya or some other tool?
If you use the stock thing did it come with a handle to put in the holes at the top or do you just use a screw driver?
Also what sort of spark plugs do you use, and what is the gap for a 3sge?
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There is a specific socket with rubber on the inside that fits onto your ratchet with an extension, its the same with all other spark plugs. If your changing spark plugs just refer to the guide or some guy at the counter when your buying the new ones, as my Celica book is in my car at the moment and i don't know off the top of my head.
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Location: Elwood, Melb
Registered: August 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 May 2004 13:44
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wiso wrote on Mon, 03 May 2004 23:31 | Sorry Stuart I think they were talking about ST165's not ST185's there are heaps of ST185's on here.
Hey Rob love the new avatar.
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I was just about to say that, ha
Me too Rob, but i don't know how to get mine up, i keep giving it a URL like my images at members rides but it doesn't like it. I must be dumb.
Sorry if everyones hates all my quotes but they were necessary.
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Location: Canberra
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 May 2004 13:52
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ah dude you acctually don't give it a URL, you press the browse button and select the file off your own hard drive. and click preview, then update your profile, then after nark is next online he will either approve it or reject it, he notify you by PM
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Location: Elwood, Melb
Registered: August 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 May 2004 14:26
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Yeah i thought that would be the obvious thing to do you see, so i tryed something different, and it DIDN'T WORK. Now i have to resize some image, thanks alot wiso, big help you are. JK
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Location: Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered: September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 03 May 2004 22:35
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Ey all,
Change my spark plugs and the car seems to rev nicer and i rekon it pciks up better at low revs
The gap is 1.1mm, I got them at repco and they where already done.
I should have my K&N Filter soon and then i can begin work on a cai.
Also geting a set of very nice leads made up by a bloke in geelong.
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 04 May 2004 00:14
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hey glad you guys like the avatar.. I was kinda attached to my old one
Quote: | Cheers mate, i'll have a look when i can be bothered, but remember i live in melb which means you'll have to post them, but if i need them i'll pay for the postage.
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they are quite small and light. $3.50 max postage
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 04 May 2004 01:14
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heh - yeah i know - but im gunna try my best to convert rob to the St185 brigade in july * grin *
I know the Grey one will " influence " his decision
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Location: Canberra
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 04 May 2004 03:42
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no
(jedi hand wave) Rob will stick with an ST16* series
Don't give in to the influence, fight it, don't go to he grey side luke..... Oh I mean Rob.
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 04 May 2004 05:09
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heh , the grey side has already been down his path , and forever will haunt his destiny ....
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Location: Elwood, Melb
Registered: August 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 04 May 2004 11:58
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doobs wrote on Tue, 04 May 2004 08:35 |
I should have my K&N Filter soon and then i can begin work on a cai.
Also geting a set of very nice leads made up by a bloke in geelong.
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If your gonna make a c.a.i i know a cheap way to do it, go to "Something Munday" its in Nth Geelong next to the Arena, they have this pretty good grey tubing you can get for about 20 bucks, just measure up how much tubing you'll need before you buy it, and you can get different size tubes, its up to you, then i just used cable ties to direct it. But trust me it works and you don't have to spend much $$$.
By the way where abouts in Geelong do you live? Who's doin your leads?
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Location: Elwood, Melb
Registered: August 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 04 May 2004 12:01
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RobST162 wrote on Tue, 04 May 2004 10:14 |
Quote: | Cheers mate, i'll have a look when i can be bothered, but remember i live in melb which means you'll have to post them, but if i need them i'll pay for the postage.
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they are quite small and light. $3.50 max postage
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Cheers once again Rob, I'll get onto it.
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Location: Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered: September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 04 May 2004 12:24
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SillyCar88 wrote on Tue, 04 May 2004 21:58 |
doobs wrote on Tue, 04 May 2004 08:35 |
I should have my K&N Filter soon and then i can begin work on a cai.
Also geting a set of very nice leads made up by a bloke in geelong.
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If your gonna make a c.a.i i know a cheap way to do it, go to "Something Munday" its in Nth Geelong next to the Arena, they have this pretty good grey tubing you can get for about 20 bucks, just measure up how much tubing you'll need before you buy it, and you can get different size tubes, its up to you, then i just used cable ties to direct it. But trust me it works and you don't have to spend much $$$.
By the way where abouts in Geelong do you live? Who's doin your leads?
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Ahh A mate of mine is getting the number of a guy who made up his leads for his capri. Once I find out ill send u a pm.
Cheers
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 04 May 2004 13:58
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Quote: | heh , the grey side has already been down his path , and forever will haunt his destiny ....
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noooooo....... I feel the good in you Stuart! I can sense the 165 heritage. I know there is good still in you.
I am worried about the forthcoming dyno day 9 temptation wiso must..hold...on..
nah.. well when the day comes to say goodbye to my trusty steed.. if that happens, we'll see then.. but for now, the third side of the force calls...and strongly too..
"anti-rice-induction"
a long lost secret, hidden in the dark corners of the galaxy, and the secret to the Rob's strength
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Location: Canberra
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 04 May 2004 15:17
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worried, ha don't worry man I'll be there. Seeing what I can turn the rollers at. good times, if necessary you can come for a spin in this baby again, (and I do say baby cause stuarts will be there going "who's ya daddy")
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Location: QLD, Gold Coast
Registered: February 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 05 May 2004 11:05
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Dude
it sounds like you have a jap import from those little things you've just mentioned, my celica is a jap import, has the cruise controller on the lower stalk of the steering wheel, but i guess one way you could tell that ur car's been in japan is the japanese writting on the steering wheel adjuster thing, don't knwo what it is, but behind your steering wheel it has instructions on how to use ur adjuster, and if its a jap import i'd imagine it'd have jap writting cause mine surely does, and in the engine bay, the cover that covers ur headers' or extractors has a note mentioning that its hot, well also in jap, so maybe those little things can also help in the conformation of ur cars origins.
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Location: Canberra
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 05 May 2004 14:53
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not necessarily ST162GT-R, even the aus delivered ones have jap writing on the steering stalk adjustments and exhaust manifold heat shield. hell mine is aus delivered and it has jap writing, so do all the others I have seen.
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Location: Wahroonga
Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 05 May 2004 16:22
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Hey wiso, i was talking to a mate yesterday and he told me about a 162 owned by a girl that works near him. It apparently has 280fwkw, and is running 40psi. I've asked him to find out what it runs down the quarter. She goes through an engine a year.
It shows that we have alot to do, Rob u have even more.
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 05 May 2004 23:29
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Quote: | It shows that we have alot to do, Rob u have even more.
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HHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAH
hmmmmmmmmm
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Location: Wahroonga
Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 06 May 2004 05:15
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Just teasing rob. hehe
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 06 May 2004 06:27
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yeah I know dude...
So you know Richard with the Green Falcon.. hmmm
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Registered: November 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 06 May 2004 06:55
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umm i know got with 220fwkw, i get his 1/4 tiems for u's
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Location: QLD, Gold Coast
Registered: February 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 06 May 2004 09:39
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Oh, thats unusual, maybe mines not even a jap import at all then??, thats good news for insurance for me...so is there any real way of finding out if its a true jap import??
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 06 May 2004 09:57
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yup, look for a circly bit near the throttle butterfly, if you have egr you have a non import, if there's no egr, the engine is a jap import. How descriptive huh? haha. It looks kinda like a ufo and is the position mentioned you'll know what it is if you see it
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Registered: February 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 06 May 2004 13:26
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Hi guys, great thread! Nice to see some people are still interested in the ST162's. I'm relatively new to this forum, have been reading posts for some time but just didn't reply to anything
I saw my ST162 project being linked on this forum (http://www.tccn.nl/st162), so I thought well let's have a chat
Since 'The Engine Swap' is already discussed plenty here, I thought let's have a suspension conversation. What suspension are you guys riding on? For me, I have my suspension setup ready but have not driven is since I'm still in the progress of my Gen3 3SGTE swap... and looks like that will take at least a couple of months more.
My setup features Koni Yellow adjustable shocks, with Ground-Control coilovers (and Eibach springs), aftermarket bumpstops and sandblasted/powdercoated struts.
Here's a pic:
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 06 May 2004 13:52
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Edwin,
Did I tell you you're my hero?
have drooled over your site MANY times
love your work
Suspension is nothing like yours, but I ride on H&R inserts & springs
http://www.hrsprings.com/
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Location: Wahroonga
Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 06 May 2004 15:14
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Yea rob i know him. I've known him for a long time. Rob did i hear that u're thinking about making a GT2? Would be good to have another in the club.
I got new lovels coming in 3 weeks. And i'm running on pedders shocks.
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Location: Canberra
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 06 May 2004 15:56
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Ummm draza I think I'll be right with what I got, I'd max myself at about 150fwkw, but that will be a long way off.
ST162GT-R doesn't yours have 4 wheel steering? if it has 4WS then it is deffinatly a jap import and yes they were a GT-R.
my enignes cool it doesn't have that EGR shit
Edwin My suspension setup is Low King springs, KYB inserts and Whitline swaybars, it does me fine. Yeah man love your car, i was gonna write and ask a few questions on the 3sgte swap when I did mine but I worked it out.
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 06 May 2004 23:40
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Quote: | ST162GT-R doesn't yours have 4 wheel steering? if it has 4WS then it is deffinatly a jap import and yes they were a GT-R.
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Nah I looked for that when i was hanging out with Julian and it doesn't
a conundrum... just like my car.. lol
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Registered: November 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 07 May 2004 09:11
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my suspension is stock till i get some lo king springs and then later some kyb shocks i hope
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Location: QLD, Gold Coast
Registered: February 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 07 May 2004 09:30
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Man thats full weird, if my engine was replaced with a normal 1st gen 3sge, would they have removed the 4ws?? or can the 4ws be removed?? and replaced?? or what, and as for that EGR thing, well that when in and out of my ears, no idea, maybe i'll take alook next time i'm under my hood, and what is the difference with 4ws???
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Location: Canberra
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 07 May 2004 11:30
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ahh no they wouldn't remove 4ws when they replace an engine, 4ws would probably run off sensors on your steering rack which would tell the rear wheels how much to turn. with 4ws the whole rear suspension strut setup would be different. 4ws of course deos exactly that, all 4 wheels steer to make it able to do tighter corners and would improve handling responce heaps.
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Gold Coast
Registered: April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 09 May 2004 04:24
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Edwin, Where did you get those wheel arch flares for your celica ? They look cool. Are they from a early supra ?
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 09 May 2004 06:31
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Edwin - spastic ride!!!!!!!!!!
Im in need of the beams 3sge!!!!!! ne help?!
peepz with a 3sgte.... how is traction and cornering speeds? would love to know
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Location: Canberra
Registered: April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 09 May 2004 06:48
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dar_sbb wrote on Sun, 09 May 2004 16:31 | peepz with a 3sgte.... how is traction and cornering speeds? would love to know
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Traction, what traction, you mean these things are suppose to have traction kidding depends how many revs you give it at launch, I dropped the clutch at 2500rpm at dubbo and still managed to wheels spin half the track length.
cornering depends on what gear your in and how brave you are? you can pull boost through a corner and pull out quickly but it's still FWD.
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 17 May 2004 04:34
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The squeak in the boot is usually just the latch thingo. Put some kind of hardcore (water sealing type?) tape around the U bit and it tends to shut up, until the tape starts to wear (electrical tape doesn't last long).
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Location: Wahroonga
Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 17 May 2004 06:36
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yea second gear is great in the SW20 box.
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 17 May 2004 06:51
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It would work very well on the 3S-GTE conversions, and maybe a bit better on standard ST162s, dunno - the change from 2nd (at the redline) would leave you after the peak torque of the gen 1 3S-GE...so you'd be better off changing at around about 6800-6900.
I'd have to whip out my calculator and a dyno sheet to figure the shift point perfectly.
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Location: Gold Coast
Registered: January 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 17 May 2004 15:41
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it is wired cause i remember a number a verible thing that differ fromt he findings. First yes most of us would agree the redline on a st162 3S-GE, is 7300 but i read on the wheels artical in late 85 that it is 6800 where the red dashed lines start, but meh up to u, i did theo take it to 7300 alot and paid with no piston rings and valve seal = big end bearing 'kicking its bucket'.
Two, in my stock S-53 st162 box that i broke aobut 3 months back that 1st went to about 55-60km/h pushing the crap out of that 7300 redline. then 2nd abusuluity no more than 90km/h about 7300-7400. 3rd was right on 140km/h at 7300rpm and then 4th i never reved out just changed to 5th, but sure it was about 185-190km/h at 7300 and 5th based on the ratio's read in many other places is that 5th should pull 230km/h (no a number of people pulled this).
Ok sorry about the babaling on but the box i got froma wreaker is nice and tight, had st162 in the wreaker type pen paint on the box and bolted stright up. it has the same hort 1st gear. 2nd is much like Sw20 one and i can take to 100km/h at 7000-7200rpm. 3rd is amasing but shit up our testing hill cause it not in seet stop whne shifting from 2nd. 3rd goes to 160km/h right on redline. 4th is about same as old 5th and 5th is a nice and fuel friendly/ high way gear and does only 2600rpm at 110km/h.
so the only way this can be is from it being modified before and me getting for a wreaker price or what model toyota is it from???
Nezza
Also an update on the st185 swap, got the 3s-gte out of the cut with the loom still on it and the gt-4 box off it. i cleaned up the taper cover and the compresser cover a bit and painted the heat sheild black (just touched it up). Wednesday my mechanic comes back to get the s-53 box out and on the 3s-gte and figure out the starter problem, then then the 3s-ge engine out. and figure out all the shit i can borrow of the cut for me, and then the 3s-gte in my car, then i wire shit up , lol
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 17 May 2004 16:01
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I've bounced my car off the redline and had no problems with the engine 'throwing a leg out of bed', I would imagine if it is done repeatedly it will start to kill the thing.
With all those numbers, remember that speedos can vary from car to car, and also they are only approximations because it's very hard to predict actual rolling radius of a tire...it depends on temperature, pressure etc.
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Location: Wahroonga
Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 17 May 2004 20:50
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Yea thats y in nsw there is a 10% leeway, this lets mechanical errors be accounted for so they don't just book u. Unlike Vic as i think it is only 3kn/h not 10%.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 18 May 2004 01:14
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Correct me if im wrong, but didnt the oz delivered 1st gens come with the "3s gelc'?
and the import had cruise and climate control? like the white lightning?
Im running kings superlows with monroe gt inserts. But am gonna change to kyb's
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 18 May 2004 05:37
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Yeah - 3S-GELC just means you have the california-complying emissions equipment on the car...afaik the Australian delivered ones ran a different compression ratio as well.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: December 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 25 May 2004 01:05
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Just wondering what everyone has on the end of their exhausts?i reckon that stayin with the twin tips is quite cool as it suits the car, but recently ive become quite fond of cannons but dont know what one would be like on the 162's. Any ideas? Cheers fellas
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