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Coffs Harbour
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October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 22 June 2005 07:29
 
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just put on accesories, and yeh paperclip it and watch the console,
easy as
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Upper Northshore, Sydney
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October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 22 June 2005 08:05
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hey guys, i know its in the wrong section, but i have 3 identical pod filters that i collected to get rid of, they are no name brand but let me tell you this they are a lot cheaper than $140 K&N's, they need a slight clean or i ll blow em out wit the air compressor for ya
brand is TFI Racing pod filter, in original packaging, $20.00,
just to see if anyone is in need of a pod, as i have no need, have one on mine at the moment, definate power and less restriction when you hit 4500rpm or so, when pod's do their work.
if anyone is interested, send us a PM and go from there, cheers guys, nick.
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Location:
brisbane
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May 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 23 June 2005 06:03
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these MIGHT be ok for n/a cars, but throw them on a turbo, and it'll suck the guts outta em. K&N are only $80 for a pod filter.
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Location:
Upper Northshore, Sydney
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 23 June 2005 06:06
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damn man , dono where u get your prices from but northshore, sydney its a different story ! from what i can find !!!
but anyways if anyone wants one, make an offer , cheers nick.
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Location:
brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 23 June 2005 06:21
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yep 80 for k&n ... and no power increase front hem my friend not in the standard spot anyway... my advise is buy a k&n panel filter there the money for standard airbox stuff but the pod does add a kewl note to the tvis
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Location:
Upper Northshore, Sydney
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 23 June 2005 07:31
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well put it this way, one of these pod's in the std location, with some cold piping to it, and it has noticebly given less restriction when hitting high rev's and also makes exhaust sound louder.
i also previously had a UNI FILTER in the std airbox, no avail if you ask me !!!! that cost me 60 god damn !!! anyone wants that one too.
<kcin<
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Location:
brisbane
Registered:
December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 23 June 2005 07:59
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yer uni filter wat is that shit? lol... k&n or dont bother i say
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Location:
Sydney Australia
Registered:
June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 23 June 2005 10:37
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Hi guys
just an update on my car - im yet to do the gen 2 swap and figured i might leave that til later in the year - for now i have to do the clutch, cv's and brakes which ill be doing this weekend fingers crossed
on another note - i have added to my sound system
here are the specs now:
*sony cd headunit (old but awesome - new sony sucks)
*kenwood 6x9's (came with car so didnt wanna change)
*5" splits in standard locations up front with tweeter in sail - these also came with car when i bought it so didnt bother changing)
*2x 12" Cerwin Vega DVC subs in separate ported boxes these are rated at handling 450wrms each - awesome i luv em
*Response 2x150wrms amp running subs (actually pumps out bout 250wrms to each sub in current bridged configuration to two 8 ohm loads paralleled - ie amp sees 4 ohms in bridged mode)
*Avalanche 4x100wrms CLAIMED output lol - (this came with the car as well - otherwise would DEFINITELY be gone hehehe)
and now for the new addition - 2 x 8" Motorola genuine piezzo compression horns - rated at OVER 400W RMS each WITHOUT ADDING AN IMPEDANCE OR LOAD TO YOUR AMP !!!
now let me just say - the horns ABSOLUTELY KILL IT !!
i can seriously almost feel my ear drums wanna explode after the horns were installed - these things have a frequency range of 2kz to 35,000 khz - and add so much depth to the front staging it is not funny - 
im not entirely happy with the setup other than the subs and horns (ie what was in there when i bought it) - but this is only my daily driver setup as ive said before - my MONSTER stereo gear is going in my project car gem -
now with the current setup the bass is absolutely awesome, responsive, clear, punchy and very very loud - the mid range could do with a revival but im not gonna bother with it - might add a set of 4 inch mid bass drivers to the kick panels and make my own 3 way 18db\octave crosser to control the 5" 4" and 1" - but ill have to think bout it  - but with the horns - the higher range frequencies absolutely dominate - ill admit the sound quality is only very slightly down on a VERY good set of well sort out and filtered splits, but in terms of sensitivity and overall depth\volume added - nothing compares - only problem was fitting them
anyway - my boast for the day - cant wait to send myself deaf in my car 
cheers
Response 2x150wrms amp (actually works out)
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Location:
QLD, Gold Coast
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 24 June 2005 00:27
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hope all that sound gear came with a good alarm system, otherwise your chances of going deaf might go quickly.
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Location:
Upper Northshore, Sydney
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 24 June 2005 00:52
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man that sounds pretty big !!! what are the horns like, what do they run off ?? and how much ?? get a piccy up of em if you could
nick.
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Location:
brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 24 June 2005 02:03
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wat r these horns u speak of lol
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Location:
Melb, Victoria
Registered:
April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 24 June 2005 04:59
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piezo horns are the things you find in party speakers/DJ speakers etc. there bloody loud!!
Show us some pics of the install 
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Location:
brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 24 June 2005 05:24
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and where do u buy these from.. i take it they are alike to a sub not all up on this fandangle stereo talk lol sub , speakers , splits , amp , headunit.. does me fine lol
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Location:
Melb, Victoria
Registered:
April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 24 June 2005 08:47
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I havn't seen them in cars before, but you can buy them from places like jaycar and dicksmith.
Update: since the fitting of my new intercooler i've been driving around with only one thermo fan.(had to remove the st165 fan to fit the intercooler in)So today i brought a slim-line thermo fan from repco and fitted it. so much better now, keeps the car cooler.with one fan in it use to run for about 1-3mins trying to get the temp down. now the two stay on for about 25secs 
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Location:
Upper Northshore, Sydney
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 25 June 2005 02:59
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how long are the two generally sposed to stay on for on say a 20 - 25 degree day ? mine generally stay on for a good minute, is there an issue there ??
nic/
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Location:
Melb, Victoria
Registered:
April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 25 June 2005 08:15
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not sure...
With my original fan and the st165 fan on, it stayed on average 40-50secs. this was on at 30 degree day.
yesterday after i put the new fan in i went for a bash around the block (cold day, around 14degrees)it stayed on for only 25secs.
theres a few variables involved there so its kind of hard to say. but i would have thought 1+ minutes was a bit long..
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Location:
Sydney Australia
Registered:
June 2005
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 25 June 2005 11:38
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| ST162GT-R wrote on Fri, 24 June 2005 10:27 |
hope all that sound gear came with a good alarm system, otherwise your chances of going deaf might go quickly.
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yeah got an alarm - mate if someone's gonna pinch something, with or without an alarm - theyll get it - i dont park my car in many places anyway
anyway - as for remainder of questions - cant get a pic cos no camera - they are just like tweeters with plastic\polyresin attachment to it that flare out like a cone but are rectangular faced not circular - they are bout 8" x 2"
Yes jaycar and dicksmith sell them but not motorolla ones from memory - these are high end horns worth bout 150 bucks TRADE price a pair -
specs - 94.5db@1wrms sensitivity, 400wrms power handling each, no nominal impedance and yeah thats bout it -
not many ppl use them in car audio systems cos theyre hard to fit properly for good imaging - ive got mine in the back at the moment just atop the parcel tray facing forward with velcro holding them - i tried fitting them under the dash or off the bottom edge of the dash but couldnt fit the driver's side one properly without interfering with the clutch pedal space (ie in the way in case of emergency stop etc)
i would like to fit them in the standard locations up front (4 holes but fit them from behind) so as to hide them, but then would have to move the front speakers to the back somewhere
anyway - sound good enough for me for now - my other setup should hammer
cheers
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Location:
Upper Northshore, Sydney
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 25 June 2005 11:53
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ohhh yeh i know the ones, tweeters, i thought when u said horns, they were those speaker like vibrators !!!
the weird shaped, square or round, about 6-8 inches that put out really low , > 25 hz bass, when added with subs rattle your brains out !!! thats what i thought you meant there !!!
man how must your ears be with those high freq's coming at you from the back glass , raw ? or aimed em out a bit ?? they can be deafen'ing !!!
anyways sounds pretty decent dude !!!
nick
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Location:
brisbane
Registered:
December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 26 June 2005 08:49
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i think ive askd before but here it goes again.. im after a wing for my 162 im not usualy a fan of wings but i like the wrx sought of wing on the back of a 162 ive seen a few in fotos / real life etc one like warriors would be ok but without the standard wing under it anyone know wat i mean.. so does anyone know if one will fit on with little or no mods
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Location:
Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
October 2004
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Location:
brisbane
Registered:
December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 27 June 2005 05:28
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warrior has a set...... antenna as in radio?... go to autobarn etc they have digital ones that sit above ur rear vision mirror for like 30 bucks
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 27 June 2005 07:42
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sunroof removal = EASY
just take the trim off and you will see the screws that go onto the frame
antenna upgrade? the powered toyota one is the BEST mate!
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Location:
Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 27 June 2005 09:36
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but i get the feeling the powered one from toyo will be rather expensive...
hows the car going rob?
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 27 June 2005 12:14
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try some spares places? the toyota one is like $400 from toyota 
yeah man thanks car is sweet.. though, still got a leak from the g-box where I made up the hybrid speedo... so gotta sort that but otherwise is GUN mate!
love her to death.. and so should every other 162 owner
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 27 June 2005 12:16
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Good news ey! How / why did you have to make the hybrid speedo drive? I'm just curious. 
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 27 June 2005 12:18
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just cause the inside of the 1998 box have had an electric speedo thingy with a different shaft for the cog holder
not sure how to describe it, but just had to make up this little piece for the inside of the old one... kinda confusing heheh there was a thread on the forums here about it somewhere..
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Location:
Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 27 June 2005 12:26
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rob, an easy way to fix that gearbox leak is to swap it with mine. no leaks and since im such a nice guy i will do it for free
on a side note, my car is going into the exhuast shop tommorrow, getting 4-2-1 extractors put on, with a new cat and 2.25" piping the whole way through a lukey turbo muffler, hope its not too loud and annoying, but i spose i can get a resonator put in anyways....
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 27 June 2005 12:35
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HAHAHAHAHAH hmmmmmm hmm 
erm yes
or NOT
I think I will just keep it for now ok..
you will get some nice >4000rpm 'rumble in the jungle' with that zorst mate.. have to put a clip up of the sound
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Location:
Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 27 June 2005 12:42
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haha hopefully, i just wanna avoid that annoying lancer drone when im driving along....
once that is done im focusing my efforts towards a brake upgrade i think,
and a fibreglass sunroof replacement.... stupid rust, gunna also get quotes on removal of rust around the windscreen!
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Location:
Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 02:00
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OKAY, just heard from the exhuast shop, apparently the extractors foul on one of the thermo fans...
for those TRD-162 and Farmsi who have the gen 2 JDM headers... did u notice this? will i just have to get a different thermo fan or what?
okay, now i remember what questions i had
my passenger side central locking only works some off the time... any ideas how to fix this?
and my rear windscreen wiper ceases to work now as well... anyone else had this problem?
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Location:
Coffs Harbour
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 05:35
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yeh something is up with my passenger side locking as well ?
u have to lock it manually, and sometimes it sticks and wont budge and u gotta sit there for a lil while to try unlock it.
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Location:
QLD, Gold Coast
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 05:42
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yeah i got the same problem with my central locking, but i figured out what happens with mine, you can only use the central locking when the car hasn't started up, but once it has started up you have to lock it manually, i think it might have something to do with remote central lockings/alarm/immobiliser setup.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 07:08
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Matt - as far as I know neither of those guys had an issue with the extractors fouling on the manifold. Maybe its just the design of the ones you've bought? If there's no other way around it you could use a slim-line fan from supercheap. The ST fan is also an option, but requires the modification of the front A/C lines to work properly.
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Location:
Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 07:15
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Ey all,
Been playing with the car today, trying to solve this problem...
When a ST162 is cold (I mean been off all day and started for the first time) the car idles at ~2100rpm, This is normal, and it drops of steely as the car warms up.
My car did the above for a year or so then one day I started the car and it idled at ~2100, but for the first minute or so, it will drop to ~1500 then go back up to ~2100 again every 3 or 4 seconds (I call this revving). As the car gets warmer the interval between this "revving" increases until it totally disappears. The car then operates as normal, although the idle has become slightly higher since this started. It now occurs every morning with out fail.
Another bit of info, when I changed the coolant yesterday the engine WAS hottish, but with the fresh (COLD) coolant in it, the same "revving" happend for about 20 - 30 seconds then it disapeared.
I have no idea what this could be, I have checked all visible vacume lines for leakage, replaced the throttle body, checked the cold start injector, replaced the AFM... (I have a whole load of spares).
Can anyone offer some suggestions? I am totally stuck atm.
CHEERS Fellas
[Updated on: Tue, 28 June 2005 07:17]
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Location:
brisbane
Registered:
May 2003
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Location:
Coffs Harbour
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 10:10
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i remember when u bought that car, was F#@%in ages ago,
looks good mate, where did u get the 165 seats from ? i might do a write up on my new GT2 or warriors old one as u no it, i have some pretty big plans 4 it.
but yeh nice car mate, ive been interested in wat your car was
cheers
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Location:
brisbane
Registered:
May 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 10:14
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seats came in the car, the seats are stock on the JDM st162 and stock in the st165.
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Location:
Coffs Harbour
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 10:38
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me needs some need more support for tight cornering
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
September 2003
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Location:
Upper Northshore, Sydney
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 12:53
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yeh me wants some JDM seats tooo !!! they look awesome !!!! also love that black !!!!
on the note of wing's , rexy wings do not fit our cars very well, they are only 1200mm wide and our boots are 1300mm wide, also they are flat bottomed and our boots have slight concave, so moulded bracket needed.
i had that idling prolly every now and then , but its not as bad as yours dude, when i turn mine on from dead cold it sits at about 1400 - 1500 for a while then goes to its usual 800 - 1000 idle !!!
hehe ... celica's doing doughies !!!
nick.
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Location:
Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 13:10
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Ey all,
Where abouts can I find the Idle air control valve on a gen 1 3sge? From what I have read it may be the problem.
Cheers
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2004
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2004
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Location:
Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 13:33
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Ey all,
There are 2 sensors located in the "radiator outlet" that have vacuum hoses going to and from them, anyone know what they do?
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Location:
Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 13:42
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I wish I knew more about the idle system, atm its all based on trial and error.
From what ive gathered out of the haynes, the gen1 3sge does not have an Idle Air Control Valve.
I'm interested in what these vacuum hoses going into the "radiator outlet" are... I hope thye are whats causing the problem
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Location:
South Australia
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 28 June 2005 13:49
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The idle VSV is underneath the intake manifold, next to the TVIS VSV...the two vacuum hoses that head towards the junction on the RHS are emissions related afaik.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 29 June 2005 03:38
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I cant see in the pic, but the two vac lines that go to the plug in the radiator outlet go to your charcoal canister. That's probably not where your problem is tho. Can you hear a sharp hissing coming from the engine while it's running? Has this only gotten worse since you changed the coolant?
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Location:
brisbane
Registered:
December 2004
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Location:
Coffs Harbour
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 29 June 2005 06:18
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hahahahah wat the fuck, i just went and put another sports muffler on my car, and it was louder then my giant ass cannon i had, i was so worried took it to cop shop to try clear defect, got a nice cop and he cleared it
the gods smile on me 2day 
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2004
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Location:
Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 29 June 2005 11:25
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| doobs wrote on Tue, 28 June 2005 15:15 |
Ey all,
Been playing with the car today, trying to solve this problem...
When a ST162 is cold (I mean been off all day and started for the first time) the car idles at ~2100rpm, This is normal, and it drops of steely as the car warms up.
My car did the above for a year or so then one day I started the car and it idled at ~2100, but for the first minute or so, it will drop to ~1500 then go back up to ~2100 again every 3 or 4 seconds (I call this revving). As the car gets warmer the interval between this "revving" increases until it totally disappears. The car then operates as normal, although the idle has become slightly higher since this started. It now occurs every morning with out fail.
Another bit of info, when I changed the coolant yesterday the engine WAS hottish, but with the fresh (COLD) coolant in it, the same "revving" happend for about 20 - 30 seconds then it disapeared.
I have no idea what this could be, I have checked all visible vacume lines for leakage, replaced the throttle body, checked the cold start injector, replaced the AFM... (I have a whole load of spares).
Can anyone offer some suggestions? I am totally stuck atm.
CHEERS Fellas
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yer i have this same problem! so anyone help a brother (or two) out?
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 29 June 2005 13:26
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i found that when bleediong the coolant best thing is to crank all heater on high, fill with coolant and rev to about 2500 - 3000rpm.Fill with coolant/water as its sucked in and also have overflow on full.It also helps to pump the top hose as this helps remove air from the system.
my idle is a bit screwy atm as i have a leaking hose to the heater core (one from the radiator outlet with the temp senders etc.)
Try cleaning up all of your electrical connectors too, such as afm, O2 sensor, clean TB, intake pipe and plus/leads. Then disconnect battery and stomp on brake till there's no power left.THis will reset the ECU.
Hope it all helps
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Location:
Melbourne
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March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 29 June 2005 18:09
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| StuC wrote on Wed, 29 June 2005 23:26 |
....Then disconnect battery and stomp on brake till there's no power left.THis will reset the ECU.
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Or just pull the EFI fuse and wait 10 minutes. Stomp on the brake!?
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Location:
brisbane
Registered:
December 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 30 June 2005 06:13
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lol stomp on the brake pedal.. if thats not the worst MYTH i have ever heard lol.. i dont know wat is
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
October 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 30 June 2005 06:33
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Why is it u have to wait 10 minutes. it should reset instantly when the ecu looses power, didn't think they have a backup battery to keep it going?
got my new extractors on, genies... they are awesome..
tried a lap around the street with em off.. Very funny hahaha
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 30 June 2005 06:38
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I think the idea behind the brake pedal is to make sure all power is drained
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Location:
Melb, Victoria
Registered:
April 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 30 June 2005 07:12
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Once you pull the efi fuse, you only gotta wait about 30secs. works fine for me when i use to hit boost/fuel cut.
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 30 June 2005 07:15
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that's what I usually do... except for the boost bit
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 30 June 2005 09:23
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Is there a power source in the brake system which comes on when you push the pedal? 
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Location:
Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 30 June 2005 09:30
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Okay heres my deal. I got the temp guage working again. Fool musta taken out a bunch of wires in the blue circle location above and didn't put em back in.
Okay, recently the car has had troubles cold starting. it would turn over, fire up, then just die. Then repeat a few times and it will finally start running.
Then when it is running, it will idle at about 1800-1900. Will drive fine, and then upon braking it will bounce at 1000-1100 and then when i have totally stopped i go back up to 1800-1900...
suggestions anyone?!
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