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Classique: Sorry mate I misunderstood or misread something you were saying to Aust162, anyway I'll pull through.
Andy, how you doin' mate, how was the army, FUN no doubt, dude I have a 2 1/4 aswell you've heard it  pitty it has a standard muff on the end and doesn't make half the noise it did with a straight-through one, but depending on the setup it will most likely be pretty noisey in the cabin, it also depends on why you want it? which is a pretty stupid question, but would you rather save your money and get extractors along with it?
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Thu, 15 July 2004 09:31
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| FWDboy wrote on Mon, 12 July 2004 21:46 |
For the money you spend, it's still not my preferred option, you may get the kW now but two years down the track you may wish you'd just saved some cash up and got a whole new replacement ECU. I don't know if, for example, Wolf3D have a plug in replacement at this stage, but they'd be a good cheap(er) option than something like a Motec/Microtech/Autronic etc etc.
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I've spoken with Brian at BEL Garage and said i could get a replacement micotech ECU for approx 900 not including fitting and tuning, i figure this is probably the way to go, thanks for the advice FWDboy, and he also recommended this (brian) so i'm leaning towards this, gotta find out more details about it, but i'll keep you guys posted.
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Thu, 15 July 2004 15:41
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well Sillyca88 actually $300 for that even without the lights is a great deal, because even if you had the lights you cant fit them because they bolt to the steel support which is a tad different on the GT4, (it has the bracketing welded onto it). So I'd go for it even at that cause the SSV one will cost you about $400 supply only anyway.
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Thu, 15 July 2004 23:57
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| smashed_wombat wrote on Thu, 15 July 2004 16:28 |
Next question: Can i get away with fitting 16x7 wheels with a +53mm offset to teh mighty '162? Or is that just asking for buku problems? Standard wheels are 14x6, +39mm offset yes?
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Yep, standard ST162 wheels are 14x6, +39mm offset, with a 5x100 stud pattern (on the SX).
Fitting 7" wide wheels with a +53mm offset is likely to cause clearance problems. Since the offset is 14mm greater, this means the wheels will sit 14mm further inward than before. This will bring the tyre's inner sidewall closer to your struts, and the fact that the wheel is an inch wider will bring it even closer again. So it would probably be a close run thing if it didn't actually foul the strut. (Plus it won't look as good since the tyres aren't filling the guards as much as before.)
The other issue with fitting wheels with a different offset is that it will change the track width (the distance across the car between the wheel centrelines). In your case, since each wheel centreline will move inwards by 14mm, the track width will be 28mm narrower. You would need to check whether changing the track width in Vic is legal - here in QLD you can widen it by up to 26mm but it cannot be made any narrower, no doubt since this would degrade the handling rather than improving it.
The way around this of course is to fit spacers, providing they are legal (which they are not here in Queensland). If you could fit 14mm spacers you'd be laughing, because the track width would be exactly as it was before. Having never looked into them, I'm not sure what sizes they are available in or if they come that wide. But since the rims are 1" wider, the ouside tyre sidewall would still sit a bit further out than stock so you'd probably have to roll your front guards. (like I did when I fitted 15x7's with +39mm offset to mine!)
Sorry for the wordy post, hope that clears up all your questions. I looked into all this when I was getting wheels for my car so if you have any other q's, ask away!
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Fri, 16 July 2004 01:24
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Hi everone,
Brian from BEL here (i'm using ben's account  )- a little miscommunicatio in regards to the microtech, which i've clarified with Julian...
"Oops sorry for the misleading info - what I meant was, if u are willing to spend 900 on an ecu, a full replacement ecu such as microtech will cost you a little bit more - $1200 or so (look around the web)."
Hope that clears up some stuff...
cheers,
Brian
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 16 July 2004 04:11
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Does the MR2 box with lsd both straight in? or is it better to use the gt4 box? Will it be a worthwhile upgrade?
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 16 July 2004 06:07
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dar_sbb I thought this has been covered so many times, hell no.
Took this out of an old post of mine:
The SV21 camry box (pretty standard, may or may not last)
The MR2 Turbo box (stronger, it's all setup for a turbo, Very hard to find, if you do they cost..... alot, plus you need to get MR2 driveshafts and attach the GT4 outer CV's to the mr2 driveshafts, swap the linkages over from the GT4 box, and presto [probably cost more than your engine though])
The GT4 box (This is the option I am using, weld the visciuos couplings together and lock it in 2WD, box is very heavy compared to a FWD box, very experimental, and will cost alot to do this)
The V6 camry box (bellhousing won't fit, will need to get a broken MR2 turbo box and take the bellhousing off and bolt it onto the V6 box [note a stuffed MR2 box will still be rather expensive])
The 4AGZE box (same as the V6 camry box, need to do a bell housing swap, don't know what driveshafts you would need to use though)
more expansion on the gt4 box: you will need to heavilly customize your north south cross member (ie welding holes and re-drilling new ones) and drains a lot more power not vialbe for a NA
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Re: 900 microtech?
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Fri, 16 July 2004 09:30
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| Hachi Roku Trueno wrote on Fri, 16 July 2004 11:24 |
Hi everone,
Brian from BEL here (i'm using ben's account )- a little miscommunicatio in regards to the microtech, which i've clarified with Julian...
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Ahhh  , beat me to it , i was just gonna correct the miscommuication on the ECU. Too late..
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Fri, 16 July 2004 12:22
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Wiso - Thanks man! excellent post! will stick to stock box. 
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Fri, 16 July 2004 15:10
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Re ECU : My advice is to shop around for ECU prices - the actual difference in performance of a $3000 ECU to a $1200 ECU on a street car is probably about 2kW - so it's not worth getting a Motec M800 or something for a 1st gen 3SGE:) I'm not saying to get the el-cheapo No-Frills ECU, but get an affordable one that has all the options you will need eg it will have enough auxillary inputs to tune using your current sensor equipment...and enough programmable auxillary outputs (one for fuel pump, one for t-vis, one for idle vsv however many of those bases you want to cover).
Getting a piggy back is kinda ghey on ST162s.
Also - don't forget installation and tuning is fairly exy if you want the job done properly on a dyno.
Talk to dealers/specialists for more detailed info!
As for LSD gearboxes - you could just about do a custom job for the amount it'd cost to get the MR2 box in (okay maybe not quite, but it's exy and annoying either way). Wouldn't you need an ST205 group a gearbox to get a LSD at the front end??? I thought the others were open front.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 17 July 2004 03:45
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Ok Sorry to disappoint you FWDboy, but i've gone the piggyback factor, my celica isn't gonna anything to hardcore, because it has to be my daily driver at the same time, by the way i had troubles today with my engine, it kinda stalled on its own once today, not sure what it could be?? although my oil is kinda low, like half way, or could it be that i put unleaded in? i have no idea maybe electrical fault?, any idea guys, anyway after that stall it seem to run normal again. i just kept thinking to myself, i must of left it in gear and stalled it myself, but i'm just kidding myself.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 17 July 2004 06:53
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GT-R -> No need to apologise, which one did you end up going for?
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Sat, 17 July 2004 06:58
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As for your car stalling, oil being low won't cause it to stall (unless you are totally out of oil in which case it will seize, not stall).
Putting unleaded in won't be a problem either.
It's hard to say what the problem is if it hasn't happened re-occuringly.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sat, 17 July 2004 09:28
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Sillycar88 - Yeah, the course was awesome! Im gonna do extractors at the same time (i can get a whole sports exhaust system for little more than the cost of repairing my screwed one)
matt86sx - Thanks for the info, excellent post! I was under the impression that offset was the distance outward the wheel mounted up, not inward. Learn something everyday...
ST162GT-R - It must be going around, my car's doing that too. I had it serviced the other day, since then it occasionally idles lower and lower until its almost stalling. When I try to take off again there's a delay before the power comes.
Check this out - results from dyno day! 74.8 fwkw mf!
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 July 2004 03:33
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Wow, how much torque came out of the 3sge motor, 341nm, thats like double the factory, what had been done to that celica?
FWDboy, i went the SAFC II, so only air/fuel ratio change, didn't really wanna bother with ignition timing, but i want to get some new spark plug leads for a more effective spark, i think nology and NGK have some, not sure for our cars or not.
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Sun, 18 July 2004 03:40
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I stole adrian's K&N filter for the run and look - almost double the torque!
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I think the scale on the graph was wrong, or they're measuring a different kind of torque - no way a bog stock celica is gonna put out more torque than a 3.8L V6!
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 July 2004 05:20
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geez. a panel filter knocking it up to 74kw, maybe i should go back to the old OEM box and put a K&N panel instead of the pod..obviously works wonders. 
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 July 2004 06:35
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I think you'll find that the gears/differential will have a certain effect on the torque at the wheels 
Better spark may or may not net you much extra kilowatts - careful with the air/fuel ratio by the way - make sure that things like the catalytic convertor still stay in good operating temperature and you may need to fine tune what temperature plugs you use and so forth - just be sure to do it right if you want performance and an engine that will last (not that I'm trying to be dramatic, I'm talking about the difference between an engine that will stuff up after 100,000kms of abuse rather than an engine that will last 50,000kms of abuse)
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 July 2004 06:53
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ST162GT-R - What mods have u done to ur car? have u installed the safcII?
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Sun, 18 July 2004 09:26
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I had that problem with my car once, I would go to take off it would almost stall and creep real slow then after that delay the power would kick and go. My problem was my AFM, the flap inside was jamming so it wouldn't open fully, I took it apart cleaned it out, I think it also had to do with my injectors were a bit dirty, and few tanks full of the cleaner was all good.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Sun, 18 July 2004 10:29
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hey guys how hard do you think it would be to put a gen 3 3sge into a st162
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Mon, 19 July 2004 00:18
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Well it's what you'd loosely describe as a 'bolt in'...which basically means at least the engine mounts match up It will fit, but who knows how tricky it would be to make sure that nothing is fouling against anything. Anyone done this? I know alot of people have shoved gen 2 3sge's in.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 00:32
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| smashed_wombat wrote on Sat, 17 July 2004 19:28 |
matt86sx - Thanks for the info, excellent post! I was under the impression that offset was the distance outward the wheel mounted up, not inward. Learn something everyday...
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You're welcome mate!
You're actually half right with your impression.....offset can be either positive or negative.
Positive offset is when the mounting surface of the wheel is outwards of the rim centreline - so the spokes tend to be close to flush with the outer face of the rim, and the rim's width extends inwards to cover the brake, hub etc. Increasing positive offset will move the rims futher inwards and decrease the track width. Of course, positive offset is indicated by the "+" symbol in the offset size, eg +53mm in your original post.
Negative offset is simply the reverse, the mounting surface of the wheel is inwards of the centreline, so when you have for example a "deep dished" rim then they tend to be negative offset. Increasing negative offset will push the rims futher outward and increase the track width. A rim with neg. offset will of course have a "-" symbol, but I don't think they are very common so you wouldn't see that designation very often.
There's probably diagrams out there on the web that would explain it too, but hopefully you've got the idea from my brilliant explanation, haha!
Here endeth the lesson.
-Matt
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 07:01
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| wiso wrote on Fri, 16 July 2004 01:41 |
well Sillyca88 actually $300 for that even without the lights is a great deal, because even if you had the lights you cant fit them because they bolt to the steel support which is a tad different on the GT4, (it has the bracketing welded onto it). So I'd go for it even at that cause the SSV one will cost you about $400 supply only anyway.
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No possibilty of creating the bracketing? If not the bar still looks nuts.
Earlier you mentioned it's not worth it as its a 3 piece set, this includes: front bar, 2X front side panels & grill. Am i correct on this, because they might not have the side panels (how do they look and how do they fit?).
Also Im considering using the GT4 g/box when I do the conversion, the MR2 setup is way to expensive, I'm just a little unsure how the put on the GT4 box on? Sorry I know I've asked a few Qs relating to g/boxs but I really need a clear idea in my head. Cheers.
Also e-mailed JMS about VR4 I/C I hope all goes well.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 07:07
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thanx FWDboy
ive been led to believe its pretty simple and that the biggest hassle is wiring it up.
if it turns out to be not to hard i think i might just get a st162.
besides you guys seem to have more fun than the other guys anyway and st162 are soooo sexy compared to ae82 wich is my other option.
anybody else able to offer some info on putting a gen 3 3sge into a st162?
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 07:23
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The GT4 box is fairly straightforward if you have a whole half-cut, but also quite exy as you have to modify it internally. As wiso stated, you need to lock it into 2WD. I don't think it's a case of 'removing' the rear-drive components - the coupling should be 'before' (if you follow what I mean) the front diff - meaning it has to be either welded or replaced with some kind of solid (read : custom) coupling.
That at all right?
Also - I think it has slightly different dimensions requiring the use of the ST165 shafts - not sure...
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Mon, 19 July 2004 07:29
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Actually ignore what I say about the driveshafts I can never remember
You could probably use the entire front drive components from the GT4 (ie CVs/shafts etc) anyway and they'd be better.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 07:33
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Oh one more thing! It might be a good idea to remember that although the gearbox is from a GT4 and is designed to handle some extra grunt - the front drive components were still only designed to take a certain amount of the torque supplied by the 3S-GTE (as the torque from the engine was split up between the front and rear end via the viscous coupling) and that putting the entire grunt of the 3S-GTE through the FWD components of a GT4 box may still break it after a while. The BEST option is to use a gearbox that was designed to handle all the torque in 2WD (ie MR2 turbo box).
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 07:39
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Ohhh nice, I'm pretty sure the GT4 option is going to be better than the SW20, probably less screwing around, I think, anyway my mate has a oxy welder so I should be right, just remove the pinion drive, lock the coupling, might need to change some suspension components and some other stuff concerning the shift levers. Im not 80% sure yet, but wiso's used the GT4 box and I'm sure he has some nice info  but he may not want to pass it on???
Anyone know anything about the GT4 I/C because I'm changing it to a f/m I/C (VR4) and was wondering how I might go about it, is it as simple as changing over the piping (hope so)?
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 07:44
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OH OK, well atm Im thinking the SW20 is out of the Qs, I dont have the $$$, but Im pretty sure the GT4 box will suffice.
Oh yeah Cvs theyre important.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 07:53
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I don't think the GT4 linkages should be any problem.
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Mon, 19 July 2004 08:02
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the 162 thread will never die only multiply
You know how every toyota when it starts goes like "chunk chunk chunk chunk vroom"
usually.. you know you can tell a toyota by the starting noise
well.. SINCE I I did my injectors and put a newwish cold-start injector in there, it is scary.. even on the coldest morning when it has been on the street it is like, "chunk - vroom" just turns over ONCE before it is on... sometimes twice
lovin it!
anyway, dude i need a new box too sooner or later so keen to hear how this works out for ya mate
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Mon, 19 July 2004 08:17
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hey sillycar88, to make the gt4 box work, u have to use the shifter linkages of a S5* gearbox, i'm quite sure.why not use ur 3sfe g/box currently in your car?  , if ur tight for budget. your g/box will work.thats what i did. i couldn't use my 3sge box becuase of the location of the starter motor, so i brought a gearbox just like urs. camry sv21.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 08:52
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Well i want to get mine down to about 13.0 quarter, the extra weight of the GT4 box will just slow me down. Yes the MR2 turbo box conversion is expensive, but i know in the long run it was worth it.
Yes rob the 162 threds are multiplying.
I have my heater box working again and loving it now that its winter. Next job is either the FMIC or getting the speedo working. I think i will get the speedo working first.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 10:16
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| dar_sbb wrote on Sun, 18 July 2004 16:53 |
ST162GT-R - What mods have u done to ur car? have u installed the safcII?
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Just full exhaust and a pod at the mo, this sat i'm getting the SAFC II, and maybe aftermarket Cams if the price is right.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 10:18
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how many st162 threads are there
and god dammit there is no resonable st162's on carsales or trading post
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 10:32
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sorry for so many questions but i was just wondering if i was to change the motor to a gen 3 3sge would i better of just buying an ST over and SX or does the SX have a better level of trim ie: interior brakes swaybars all that stuff
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Mon, 19 July 2004 11:00
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there has been lots writen about the differences dude, but there are lots!
trim, power options, stuff like sunroof... 5-stud hubs...
so if you want the xtra features you have to buy the SX
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Mon, 19 July 2004 11:00
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geez last time i read this thread it was on page 7!!! ..well firstly today i had a look at another celica for sale - its kind of a dark silver/grey colour,engine seems fine drives real smoothe etc and has had an engine rebuild apparently,it has a high flow cat,cd player, p/s 5 speed man..he wants $2000 for it..ok the down sides is it has 330 000 on the clock,the a/c isnt hooked up but apparently its all a matter of hooking up the wires to it and he hadnt got around to it, body is in pretty ruff condition got a few dents and most of the paint is faded..other then that it drives like a beauty.. syncros are all good and syspention is good..interior is pretty clean etc..all that needs done as far as im concerned as it needs some panel beating and paint..my best friends dad does all that kind of shit..and could probly do it for $1000...im thinking with going with white or hot house green
does anyone think this is a good price for the purchase of this car sonsidering km's and body condtion..also his clutch felt harder to push in then mine what could this be
thanks all
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 11:05
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sorry robst162 im still a noob and theres soooo much info on this forum its hard to look throught it all
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Mon, 19 July 2004 13:48
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Yeah sounds like a good price but I generally try to steer clear of a car that doesn't look like it's been well taken care of as it's a sign there may be 'other' problems around the corner...but good luck none the less
As for no reasonable ST162s for sale - you could have mine The price is probably not so attractive though...especially considering your not even after one that has a decent engine anyway.
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Mon, 19 July 2004 14:47
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if it doesn't have the side mouldings DON'T get it it will look like shit guarenteed.
The GT4 gear box option is way more complicated and not worth it than you may be thinking. (Read the 7th post down on this page, its gear box options for the 3sgte swap.)
it is no where near straight forward, you people have no clue but I can't seem to drill this into you enough.
FWDboy is right about the GT4 box when in 2wd only being able to handle soo much, I think I have just started to shit mine, The viscious couplings are beging to slip, soon I will have no drive.
Dude there is no way you can possible weld the box yourself and oxy isn't strong enough, nor is a mig.
You People have no clue you are like the blind leading the blind you just make it worse for me to answere what you really need.
all the linkages are fine you just have to use the shift cables out of the GT4.
Sillyca88 Please if you have questions about this still please PM me for the advise don't put it here public as most of these people are leading you stray as they have no idea. but take my advise, just use either a rebuilt s53 or s54 tranmition if you can afford the e153 swap.
word of warning
Becasue teh GT4 box swap is so experimental I have a freind here in canberra who tried it 4 times they (machine shop) welded the couplings and each time as soon as they gave it a bit they broke the welds and burnt it out. so its not easy, costed him more to do that than to just get the mr2turbo box fitted originally.
If your still interested please PM me.
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Mon, 19 July 2004 14:56
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personally soon I am gonna do like 3sge_man did with his, I am gonna rebuild my old s53 (standard st162 tranny) and use that on my 3sgte, maybe weak but he is right, it has better ratios for the turbo than the cruisy style of the s54
I am actually gonna look at selling my car soon as I am fed up with the celica, I don't find boost all that fun to drive. Bring back the NA
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Mon, 19 July 2004 16:49
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Aww come on wiso - you know you really just want a turbo 4wd with 30psi of boost
Wiso would be the one here with a clue, but he's said alot of this stuff before...anyone interested in putting in a heftier gearbox for a 3SGTE/ST162 hybrid should either talk to a specialist who actually does the work, or simply get the MR2 turbo g/box. The other options really aren't economical from what I've read from previous threads/posts that are EASY to find with the SEARCH feature.
As he said, perhaps i was wrong to say it's straightforward, the external of the gearbox is obviously not quite the same as the standard FWD item and if you've ever taken a look underneath your average ST162 you'll understand why this could be a pain in the arse.
Whatever fiddling you have to do with an MR2 g/box, it's still so much cheaper than really getting the job done and getting a custom gearbox made up for 10 or so grand
Note - not even the GT4 rally cars used the standard gearbox, partly because it wasn't up to the punishment of the higher torque from a rally car and partly because rallying required more sophisticated transmissions than a road car AWD - for interests sake they used an x-trac item which still had problems of it's own...the standard gt4 box isn't that amazing!
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 20 July 2004 11:02
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come on Wiso, don't give up on the GT2 just yet!!
i should have mine back this week, and i cant wait to drive it. first thing in gonna do is put in my new fuel filter, oil filter and oil, plugs and get those twin spot brakes on the front.
to put the calipers on all i have to do is tin snip the dush shield and a straight bolt on yeah?? man i hope the calipers fit under my stocko 14" rims, (but can anyone here tell me for sure??????)
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South Australia
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 20 July 2004 12:38
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auST162 -> short answer is yes...the longer answer is that you could have used the search function and come to the same conclusion!
They aren't physically that much wider or taller than the standard 162 calipers, the main difference is the length of the caliper. I'll get a photo for you tomorrow...
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 20 July 2004 12:38
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a little trimmy trim snip snip of the rotor shield and you are set bolt RIGHT on.. agian .. covered a million times
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Canberra
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Tue, 20 July 2004 14:35
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Yes I am giving up on it, you guys don't realise I have had mine longer than yours, I have been there, done that, when i first got mine on the road it was a great day, It was sooooo much fun, I loved it. A year later That feeling has deminished and has been replaced with bordom and regret for doing that to such a nice car, maybe I am just a bit older and wiser now than most of you guys here. You may or may not feel the same one day.
And no FWDboy I don't want a 4wd with 30psi boost, I don't even want boost at all, I am going to be very happy with my nice standard MR2 NA.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 July 2004 00:12
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Yeah I can sympathise with that view Wiso - my idea of a good ST162 is just basically just a nuts 5S-GE with a roll cage and a crapload of Jenny Craig.
Still, ST165 it will be for me (whenever it comes in)  Rally tracks are begging.
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Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 July 2004 00:28
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ouch! bro I sense some angsty there...
Not sure if I can allow you to post here anymore... lol.. of course you can
dude you are cool... hey, and you are NOT older than me.. mwah ha
MR2 project will be sweet dude
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 July 2004 00:37
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Personally I'd only modify a Toyota if I was intending on racing it. I kept my ST162 totally standard as I never got around to doing any kind of race-prep.
'Morn Rob btw
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 July 2004 00:44
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Oh yeah wiso - if your b/day actually is september 1983 (as in your profile) then you aren't even as old as me either
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 July 2004 00:47
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lol
top o da mornin' to you too!
some twin-cam beauty for you all...
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Melbourne
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June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 July 2004 01:09
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Does ne one know if best motoring (or ne other reviewers) have done ne thing on the st162????
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 July 2004 01:17
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RobST162 -> That's not what twin cam looks like - this is what twin cam looks like!
Oh yeah, here's a few more pics I took this morning out of boredom...for those of you who haven't met, here's my brother's rally car! Currently buried under rubbish
Here's a couple of flattering pictures of my car
 
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 July 2004 02:16
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Yeah I may not be as old as you two, but thats cool because you guys are in the same boat I am now in, you guys are happy with your cars up to very minor mods, you guys don't plan on doing any big engines swaps, Which I have realised is the way to go, just drive the car and enjoy it for what it is.
Thats why I said older than most of you cause I know rob is older and surley others must have been.
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sydney
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July 2004
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 July 2004 05:40
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if your talking about the lateral bar thingy (technical language) yeah just wire brush it and paint if u can be bothered
i dont think any car than 5 yrs would be not have ruston that bar thingy
normally just surface rust nothing major.
an im only 20 how old is everybody else.
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Wahroonga
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June 2003
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 July 2004 07:24
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hey wiso, i'm older than u and i'm taking my car all the way to 200kw. For the record i'm 21.
I would say keep it if i knew that you would, but i don't think anything i say could make u change ur mind. It's still one of the few GT2's in Australia.
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Re: ST162 dedicated thread
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Wed, 21 July 2004 08:15
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wot u guys think of this st162 in the for sale section on the forum
FS: Celica SX $$$2800(Urgent)
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