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Brisbane, Queensland
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Advice for TA22
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Sun, 07 March 2004 12:13
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Hi people, I'm new here. Thought I might find some advice on what's good (engine wise) for my 74 TA22 Celica. It came with the 2T single carb motor. It runs well but I need MORE POWER!
I was thinking of something that's a straight drop in without too much fabrication work. 2TG sounds nice but will it give much of a difference to the 2T?
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: Advice for TA22
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Sun, 07 March 2004 12:24
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theres been a fair bit circulating lately on 2tgs and what can be done to them to get the little bastards quick as....
2t/3tg hybrids
turbo
do up the standard 2tg (cams, flywheel, extractors, exhaust, port n polish etc)
3t-gte
check out some of the more recent threads and have a look to see what you can find 
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Sydney
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January 2003
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Re: Advice for TA22
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Sun, 07 March 2004 12:25
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A 2T-GEU would work nicely....I've got one in my TA23 and it goes like a dream Also a 3S-GTE, but theres more work there with X-members I believe? An 18R-GEU would be perfect(better than 2T-GEU) but I'm not sure on the ease on installation on that one either.
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: Advice for TA22
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Sun, 07 March 2004 12:37
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hmm yes, the 3sgte... or even 3sge?
for some reason, i have a feeling the 18r-g is too heavy, or something?
sounds weird considering they are in ra23s...
but i think i heard it somewhere
when the untouchable gets back he'll be able to tell you all about his 2t/3tg hybrid that hes rebuilding
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Melbourne
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August 2003
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Re: Advice for TA22
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Sun, 07 March 2004 13:23
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RA2# features a longer wider front end with wider track to overcome 18R install. Also uses different crossmember, fits motor towards rear of bay.
In TA22 18R will give minimal clearance to radiator and position more weight further forward, increasing TA22 stock propensity to understeer.
2T-G can be good. 2T-GEU (EFI) will require modification to fuel system (more expense/work) where 2T-G (carburettor-fed) will utilise standard fuel system. In good power in standard form I prefer dual sidedraft carburettors to factory 2T-GEU EFI.
EFI allows for custom management and redeployment to suit forced induction applications. Factory 2T-GEU compression is conducive to mild forced induction applications, perhaps with 3T-GTEU manifold and CT20 if you want to minimise financial outlay.
2T-G can be built to 1770 with 3T crank and pistons (3T, flycut to suit, ~10:1). 1mm over is 1813, OEM replacement pistons are available in this size. 88.5mm/89mm pistons are available but forged and approximately $1200 per set. 88.5mm on 3T (78mm) crank yields 1919.
2T-G bolts in and fits standard transmission.
3T-GT will require relocation of one engine mount. Factory parts bin can be used to fit 3T-GT 'W' box, or standard T50 can fit but may fail. Again, ECU wiring and fuel system upgrade will be required, intercooler desirable for optimum performance, oil cooler and/or modification to coolant delivery may be required, and other small adjustments.
Beyond this other engine series require more work to fit engine/box and often custom tailshaft, etc. 4A isn't probably worth the work (dollar for dollar perfromance wise) as the costs spent on installation of 4A 1600 could develop a higher tune 2T-3T at 1770+/1919+ or turbo 2T-3T based motor.
3S motor (2L) could be good, though no experience here myself, PM Cool1. Probably a lot of work, not sure how it'd affect chassis balance etc.
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2TG sounds nice but will it give much of a difference to the 2T?
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Yes. It won't make a rocketship but it's a substantial technological and real-world performance/driveability improvement with scope to develop in N/A or forced induction form.
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Brisbane, Queensland
Registered:
March 2004
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Re: Advice for TA22
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Sun, 07 March 2004 14:17
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Thanks Guys. Didn't know I would get such a quick and helpful response. This site rocks!
-Hulk.
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