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interchangeable turbos? Fri, 12 March 2004 05:28 Go to next message
My brother went out and bought a new turbo for his starion (without checking if it was the right type - idiot)
Anyways, we only need the front half, not the exhaust housing. So he got another td05-12a turbo (which is the same code as his).

BUT upon getting it back here, I find that the one he bought seems to use water and oil cooling (has a hollow bolt that resides on the inside of the housing) where as his was only oil cooled.

so..... can I simply remove the hollow water feed bolt from the new turbo and install it, just running off oil cooling?
as far as I can see, everything else looks like a direct match up (apart from the intercooler pipe, which is a custom diameter, and the heat shield, which was a custom item)
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Fri, 12 March 2004 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes, you can run the turbo without water cooling, just remember to idle that sucker down real good!
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Fri, 12 March 2004 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well, that's one of the few ways his car is taken care of - so that's good news Smile
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Mon, 15 March 2004 01:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
further to the first question...
the stock turbo has a vac hose coming off the inlet housing going to boost controller, EBOV, etc, and the replacement doesn't. Now with my limited knowledge, I'm guessing this means the original turbo was for an AFM engine and the replacement was for a map sensored engine.

Help?
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Mon, 15 March 2004 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You can run all that crap from a fitting placed anywhere between the compressor and throttle body. There's no real need to have it on the compressor housing itself.
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Mon, 15 March 2004 05:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What engine has he put in his car that it has a TD05?
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Mon, 15 March 2004 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it's not the td05 you're thinking of - it's a starion, and that's the stock turbo (real shitter)
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Mon, 15 March 2004 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Starions came with TC06's for the early models and some of the later engines came with TC05's. I know, I had one. A TD05 is an improvement.
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Mon, 15 March 2004 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
might be a tc05
I'm taking my brother's word for the code here, I didn't look
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Mon, 15 March 2004 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fair enough Smile Tell him to get a real car though, I could NEVER go back to a Starion Razz
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Mon, 15 March 2004 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have
but he loves the damn thing, despite the fact it's going to cost him almost as much in repairs as he bought it for (and he paid too much for it)

I told him not to buy this one, that it was going to die... but noooooooo
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Mon, 15 March 2004 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I regret the day I bought mine, ah well, at least the XX will be a much nicer car in the end.
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Tue, 16 March 2004 03:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just to add to the fun - the intercooler pipes are not the standard size, so have to either weld a piece on to the turbo or get a new pipe.
PLUS this turbo has the compressor outlet in a different place, so the piping doesn't fit up anyway

stupid starions.

Will pirtek make up a re-inforced i/c pipe with a nipple in it for a vacuum hose?
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Tue, 16 March 2004 04:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'd go to an exhaust shop for something like that.
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Tue, 16 March 2004 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the pipe I'm talking about is a 15cm connector between the turbo and the actual IC pipe, which is why I was thinking pirtek
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Wed, 17 March 2004 02:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well, pirtek dont do moulded hoses (which was a bit of a suprise to me).
they recommended a place in wetherill park that will do it, but I'm not super keen on going that far for a piece of hose that isn't even going on my car.
Can anyone recommend a place a little closer to home?
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Wed, 17 March 2004 03:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Make him drive Smile
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Re: interchangeable turbos? Wed, 17 March 2004 03:04 Go to previous message
last time I let him do something with his car is when he ended up with this bloody turbo that doesn't fit properly :\

and the time before that he took me out there to look at the car. after a 5 minute inspection, I specifically told him "Do not buy this car. the engine will blow in 5-10,000 kms"
so what does he do? and what happens?

since he's bought it, it's needed a complete reco on the engine, new oil cooler, new water pump, new intercooler, new turbo
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