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4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Tue, 16 March 2004 01:09
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Has anyone ever has a ZE dyno'd in shootout mode?
I went to a dyno day on the weekend and was hoping for around 90-95kW, imagine my surprise when it reeled off 114.2..
As shootout mode is supposed to be comparible dyno-to-dyno, I was wondering if anyone else had tested a ZE on this mode for comparison.
FWIW, it's running a big pulley, but a boost leak was bringing it back down to around 10psi.
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sydney
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June 2003
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Tue, 16 March 2004 01:56
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hi there
if it is a dynodynamics u have to enter all this weather stuff and if u dont the end result goes over bored
thanks jess
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Tue, 16 March 2004 02:44
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chassis dynos are a tuning tool. Its really not an accurate way to get a reading of what power you have at your wheels.
I have seen chassis dyno results vary by over 20kW ATW from different dyno places. A better and more accurate representation or comparison would be a quater mile and trap speed, which can then be used to calculate your ATW power.
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was adelaide now newcastle
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February 2003
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Tue, 16 March 2004 03:37
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although dynos are tuning tools, if they are set so that all the variables are the same between 2 dynos, and a temperature correction and maybe an altitude factor scaled in to the result, results between them should be similar, after all they are technically a piece of scientific equipment, just that most people that use them do so in their own specific way, not a constant throughout the dyno world, well this is my oppinion anyhoo....
matty.
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Tue, 16 March 2004 05:33
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what version of shootout mode was it??
what mods are done to your car??
dale
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Tue, 16 March 2004 10:20
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 thats a nice reading there Ben, cant wait to see the 'new' reading. 
so thats about 155 rwhp?.. nice.
i did a run in Brissie last month, it was a HP shootout thingy. not sure on what shootout mode etc they used.
my intrim 4agte did this on it's measley 7psi.. 
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Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Tue, 16 March 2004 10:50
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Ben: which dyno did you get it tested on? I might have to go when im back in canberra soon.
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Tue, 16 March 2004 19:16
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whats your setup ben?
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Tue, 16 March 2004 23:25
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| feral4mr2 wrote on Tue, 16 March 2004 21:20 |
thats a nice reading there Ben, cant wait to see the 'new' reading.
so thats about 155 rwhp?.. nice.
i did a run in Brissie last month, it was a HP shootout thingy. not sure on what shootout mode etc they used.
my intrim 4agte did this on it's measley 7psi..
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the last 4agte i tuned made 187rwhp on 11psi boost, ill dig up the dyno sheet for you
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Rosanna, Melb
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June 2002
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Wed, 17 March 2004 00:10
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My ZE tuned and I got a print-out. The guy said it was done in some special mode (probably "exaggeration mode").
Allegedly it pulled 110rwkw with 10psi, extractors, 2.5" exhaust and aftermarket management. I was expecting more like 90-100. So I am in the same situation you are and would like to check the accuracy of the dyno results.
Hen
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I supported Toymods
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May 2002
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Wed, 17 March 2004 01:04
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| Henn wrote on Wed, 17 March 2004 08:10 |
Allegedly it pulled 110rwkw with 10psi, extractors, 2.5" exhaust and aftermarket management. I was expecting more like 90-100. So I am in the same situation you are and would like to check the accuracy of the dyno results.
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Considering the engine makes, what, 123kW at the engine originally, you have a free-flowing exhaust with extractors, more boost and properly tuned, I'd be very surprised (or disappointed) if that didn't make 110kW at the wheels in the end. A stock S15 200SX with only 147kW at the engine will reliably put down around 110kW stock, I don't see there being any more driveline losses in your car.
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Canberra
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Wed, 17 March 2004 02:14
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THE WITZL - Shootout mode is supposed to equalise the data so you can directly compare between different dynos.
10sec_rx7 - http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/dyno1.jpg here is the dyno printout, can you tell which version from that?
The car has a stock bottom end, some DIY head porting, a NEVO pulley, an ARC intercooler and extractors and 2 1/2" exhaust.
justcallmefrank - I think Henn and I are in the same situation, it's been very rare for any ZE to read over 100kW at the wheels (have a look at the Toymods dyno day resulte)...
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December 2002
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Wed, 17 March 2004 02:35
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thats not a bad sheet at all, looks a lot different to the other gze's that i have done, you must have a nice exhuast on there!!
that shootout mode looks to be shootout 03,
good work
Dale
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March 2003
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Wed, 17 March 2004 19:35
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i has a ze sprinter did 95atw last dyno dyno day with aftermarket ecu, 4-2-1, 2.5 freeflow, front mount and this was on the stock pulley and only road tuned
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Thu, 18 March 2004 00:32
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| 10sec_rx7 wrote on Wed, 17 March 2004 13:35 |
thats not a bad sheet at all, looks a lot different to the other gze's that i have done, you must have a nice exhuast on there!!
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Strange, it definately feels slower than it did with the old straight through system on there (it's now running a super turbo and a hotdog), but at least it's close to legal on noise now....
Perhaps the head work is coming into effect?
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December 2002
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Re: 4AG-ZE in shhotout mode
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Thu, 18 March 2004 00:46
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the gze need a hig flow exhuast to make good power, you put a bad restriced exhaust on there it will stop the power!
yours is still better than a few i have tuned.
Dale
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