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20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Tue, 16 March 2004 02:02
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Hey everyone
I am getting a 20V conversion done to my Seca SX as we speak. Quick question: I know I have to get a blue slip done because of the change of engine but does the car then have to get engineered? Other modifications include lowered 2.5" inches, exhaust and wheels.
Cheers
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane, Queensland
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January 2003
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Tue, 16 March 2004 02:11
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I thought that blue plate/engineering was the same thing?
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Toymods Social Secretary
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July 2002
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Tue, 16 March 2004 02:38
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in queensland the whole modification thing works different. With an engine conversion you have to get a mod plate up north.
Down here in NSW, you have to get a blue slip to perform an engine number change. BUT, to get the blue slip you have to have the modifications certified by an engineer, to say that they are safe and shit like that.
So to answer you question, yes you have to get an engineers certificate for your 20V conversion. I would just to cover my arse if i get hassled by the police, they cant argue with an engineers certificate.
When you do go for the engineers cert., make sure you get ALL OF YOUR MODIFICATIONS LISTED. Eg, brake upgrades, wheels, lowered suspension, fuel system (if upgraded to EFI), engine, etc etc. That way there is even less a cop can ping you for, and wont cost much extra if it was done just for the engine.
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Tue, 16 March 2004 03:31
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THE WITZL is does the blue slip/engineering certificate have to be done as soon as the car leaves the mechanic or is there a certain number of days thereafter. Cos I will be getting the wheels after the engine is dropped in - a day or so after.
Thanks for the info.
Cheers
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Location:
Perth
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September 2003
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Tue, 16 March 2004 05:38
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| THE WITZL wrote on Tue, 16 March 2004 13:38 |
I would just to cover my arse if i get hassled by the police, they cant argue with an engineers certificate.
When you do go for the engineers cert., make sure you get ALL OF YOUR MODIFICATIONS LISTED. Eg, brake upgrades, wheels, lowered suspension, fuel system (if upgraded to EFI), engine, etc etc. That way there is even less a cop can ping you for, and wont cost much extra if it was done just for the engine.
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hehehe. if they want to be a c*nt they can still get you for detailing wax on the windscreen, incorrectly adjusted headlights, dim lights, wheel alignments (!) etc etc.
some cops ignore the cert. and sticker it anyways, saying "i don't understand this. you'll have to run it past the rego boys".
happened to me on MORE than one occasion.
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Tue, 16 March 2004 12:37
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one day or two isnt a big hassle... many people leave it a week or so after getting the engine running to allow for a couple of other mods (eg brakes etc).
Just avoid police until then...
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Tue, 16 March 2004 13:27
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For a 20V conversion for a Seca SX with (4 wheel disc brakes all around) require a brake upgrade to pass engineering/blue slip?
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Wed, 26 January 2005 08:23
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ive gotten away with it for 6months and surrvived 1 defect station 
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I supported Toymods
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May 2002
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Wed, 26 January 2005 10:35
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ya engineers report will be advisable, but i have done a SX rolla to 20v and all i needed was a blue slip (in NSW) and it was a case of me driving in and driving out, pm me if u need the place that i went to)........
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wollongong NSW
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August 2003
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Thu, 27 January 2005 03:31
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| 4agte wrote on Wed, 26 January 2005 19:23 |
ive gotten away with it for 6months and surrvived 1 defect station
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why did you bump such an old thread?
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I supported Toymods
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Sutho/Hills NSW
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Thu, 27 January 2005 05:57
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| SecaSX wrote on Wed, 17 March 2004 00:27 |
For a 20V conversion for a Seca SX with (4 wheel disc brakes all around) require a brake upgrade to pass engineering/blue slip?
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they will be fine, the non super strut brakes are same size as series 2 sx
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Thu, 27 January 2005 06:10
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| WiLo wrote on Thu, 27 January 2005 14:31 |
| 4agte wrote on Wed, 26 January 2005 19:23 |
ive gotten away with it for 6months and surrvived 1 defect station
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why did you bump such an old thread?
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i was bored
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Thu, 27 January 2005 06:39
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Whilst this is getting bumped up...
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LEGALITIES OF ENGINEERING THIS CONVERSION - CONTACT AN ENGINEER.
here is the list of engineers in NSW for those who need spoon feeding
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/v si/vsi15.pdf
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Newcastle, NSW, Australia
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May 2002
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Thu, 27 January 2005 08:56
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For those who think it's clever having unengineered cars consider this: No engineering = not legal = no insurance. If the insurance company sees a 20V or anything else for that matter in the engine bay you're gone. Ok, maybe if it's not a bad accident you could swap out the engine or remove the turbo before they see it but wouldn't it just be a damn sight easier to get it done right in the first place.
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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I supported Toymods
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May 2002
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Thu, 27 January 2005 10:45
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SIXWORKS I agree, but it is still deemed as a N/A 4age (in the eyes of insurance) I figured this one out with NRMA on the phone to me, the person said that so long as it is not forced induction or larger than the origional motor and not older (ie 1990 100kw motor replaced by a 1986 TVIS 86kw) then it is all sweet.
As always i stand to be corrected, but i am goin by the NRMA guys info to me and that is my insurance company.
who knows maybe we both are wrong
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: 20V Conversion - Engineering Required?
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Thu, 27 January 2005 10:47
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| Leighp wrote on Thu, 27 January 2005 21:45 |
SIXWORKS I agree, but it is still deemed as a N/A 4age (in the eyes of insurance) I figured this one out with NRMA on the phone to me, the person said that so long as it is not forced induction or larger than the origional motor and not older (ie 1990 100kw motor replaced by a 1986 TVIS 86kw) then it is all sweet.
As always i stand to be corrected, but i am goin by the NRMA guys info to me and that is my insurance company.
who knows maybe we both are wrong
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i would get that in writing
NRMA are pretty good with payouts tho
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Location:
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
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May 2002
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