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Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Wed, 17 March 2004 03:35
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Hey guys, I have the opportunity to buy a Power FC from a friend, which was meant to go on his Manual Soarer. Is this a better option then a Haltech?
Im currently putting a 1JZGTE into the IS200, but teh Motor is a soarer, but Auto. Will my friends power FC still plug up? or will I have to source a manual 1J ECU??? If I do, can it be from any 1J? i.e Chaser, Supra etc??
This is going to be my biggest problem, i can see!
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Wed, 17 March 2004 09:00
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If it was an auto 1JZGTE and loom from a Soarer, then it will connect and run fine with a manual 1JZGTE Soarer Power FC (assuming you interface the rest of the wiring loom correctly in the IS200) - tested the same scenario last night on a colleague's ex-auto Soarer.
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Location:
NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Wed, 17 March 2004 10:44
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I didnt think the power fc had an automatic transmission option?
I read that somewhere.
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Wed, 17 March 2004 11:51
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Thanks Manny, So in other words it should plug up, but considering my car isnt a soarer, will other accessories work?
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May 2002
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Wed, 17 March 2004 13:41
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haltech = good
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Wed, 17 March 2004 21:35
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mx83, Just stick with the Haltech you think??
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Wed, 17 March 2004 22:52
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A "piggyback" ECU is never going to be as good as a proper fully programmable ECU like a Haltech. The only advantage of the PowerFC is you get to keep the nice factory features like cold-start, idle control, and (importantly in your case) automatic transmission control.
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Location:
Perth
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October 2003
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Wed, 17 March 2004 23:31
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Haltech E6K, E6X or E11 wil run the toyota idle motor, works great on my 1JZ.
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March 2003
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Thu, 18 March 2004 01:15
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im worried about climate control etc
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Thu, 18 March 2004 03:49
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I'd be pretty surprised if the climate control was run by the engine management system!
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Thu, 18 March 2004 06:36
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hehehe, Your too smart Norb. I hope it isnt! I heard, fromm Deesonet, that the IS200 has 6 computers, so hopefully that will be ok. I think Im going to stick with the E6X
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Thu, 18 March 2004 07:24
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Norbie, the Power FC isn't a piggyback...
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Location:
Gold Coast
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May 2002
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Thu, 18 March 2004 10:40
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Well there you go. Not so smart after all!
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Location:
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May 2002
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Thu, 18 March 2004 11:22
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| KOFFEE-BLACK wrote on Wed, 17 March 2004 22:51 |
Thanks Manny, So in other words it should plug up, but considering my car isnt a soarer, will other accessories work?
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I assumed you're still fitting the manual and not an auto, but re-reading your post you don't actually state that - just to be clear, the Soarer Power FC will not run an autobox - you need kdogd's or MV auto's controller for that of the stock Soarer Auto ECU.
We tested the Soarer Power FC on an autobox loomed Soarer that was converted to R154 5 speed recently and it ran fine with no issues like it was supposed to.
Like i said, you'd need a competent wiring job to get either the factory manual ECU or a Power FC to run the Soarer loomed 1JZGTE in the IS200 - dash outputs, cruise control, A/C idle up etc would need to be properly interfaced and is not dependant on the Power FC's capabilities.
And yes, the Power FC is a plug compatible fully programmable ECU - runs my Soarer flawlessly with integrated boost controller and 3 bar MAP sensor controlling bigger twins, cams, 650cc injectors etc at 300rwkw @ 20 psi without a single wire being cut/spliced. Oh and every other electronic system (progressive power steer, climate control, cruise control, SRS etc) retains factory operation and behaviour. It even started and ran the car for 4 weeks out of the box before it was tuned - straight from the manufacturer; not bad for $900 imho!
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Brisbane
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October 2002
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Thu, 18 March 2004 12:00
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Hi Manny, it's Dom here...
Koffee-Black does the IS200 run the multiplexed wiring system like some of the later model Lexuses? If so then the only option may be to piggyback the factory ecu with a Haltec, Motec, Autronic etc...
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Thu, 18 March 2004 12:08
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i have played round with an e-manage on a 2jzgte in an is300 i think it was cant remember
the car had the auto gbox but had the up and down gear shifting in the t bar area
the std ecu for 2jzge runs a shitload of stuff
theres 5 big plugs it also runs the auto
what is the std engine in the is200
i would look for a piggy back ecu
incase u run into probs half way thru the conversion
or when u go to start it
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Sydney
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Thu, 18 March 2004 13:27
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Just to clear things, Im running a JZA80 W58 5 Speed. Im hoping the other computers will look after climate control etc etc, and piggy back the Haltech alone for the comp.
Standard engine in the IS200 is 1gfe
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March 2003
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Thu, 18 March 2004 21:29
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ok
just checked my ecu plug book
looks like a 1gfe only has 3 plugs on the ecu
if that is correct then it would not control too much external stuff
it would just do the engine and maybe auto if it had one std
but i would think it might another ecu for auto
anyway u r not running an auto
so u could probably remove the factory ecu and just run a haltech
have u got a wiring diagram for the 1gfe ecu
if u have and can show me it i can tell u if it runs anything else in the vehicle apart from engine
or if u havnt i can try find one and see what the ecu controls
and see if it is anything important
was the car auto? as this would stop the cruise from workin if u went to manual
climate control has nothin to do with engine ecu
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Fri, 19 March 2004 01:42
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cool! Thanks for that!
I dont have the diagram, where could I get it??
The car has always been a manual. So there is no cruise control.
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Re: Power FC with 1JZGTE
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Fri, 19 March 2004 08:16
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not to sure bou5t diagram for that 1gfe
i havnt hear dof that engine
but it seems that it doesnt control much else
especially if its only 3 plugs on the ecu and the car is manual
and also no cruise
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