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batesy
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Wanted: early 2TG head Thu, 15 August 2002 09:36 Go to next message
Hey everyone.
I'm after one of the early 2TG heads (the ones with 9:8:1 compressons)
Also needs to be in good order (no screwing around with the valves like polishing them etc) and if it has been ported would be even better.
BUT... I need to find one in adelaide (as i dont wish to pay frieght coz it would cost me to much as ive spent to much now) unless i can find a right price one Grin

Anyways catchyaz
Simon
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Thu, 15 August 2002 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
For you info, all the 2TG head chamber sizes are the same I think. So any 2TG head should be good for you. If you want 9.8:1 compression, you need some 9.8 2TG pistons, and they will say 9.8 on top of them, and will probably say 88220 on the side as well.
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batesy
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Fri, 16 August 2002 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well the head i have is an off center head. (very sure coz i can see it on the pistons AND the head)
So if if anyone in adel has one e-mail me or something Smile
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Sat, 17 August 2002 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey simon, that 2TGEU head is one of the best you can get (#263(?)), why would you want a different one?

if you have the head off, compare it to the head at this address-

http://www.geocities.com/inferno333au/2TGHead.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/inferno333au/2TGHead.jpg

this piis a #222 2TG head.

The earlier heads, the #220 heads that came off the 9.8:1 compression had tiny vavles, low lift-short duration cams and no head webbing, so i dunno why you would want one!!!

sleeka spares sells the 2tg heads for around $150, but i swear you won't need a different one.

rob.
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batesy
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Sun, 18 August 2002 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey Rob
Well my head IS exactly the same BUT, as you can see in that pic the dome's are circle....As with my head it isnt.
I'll take a picture of it one day and you will know what i'm talking about
but on my head it doesnt have that circle dome it has an off center one, So on my 3T pistons i have shave 10 mm (or so) off the dome on the piston (in doing this it has to match my head which is off center by 10mm or so)
I just thought it would be easy in finding a different head which already has the circle domes and it wont cost me $200 od bucks in shaving them pistons...
Also everyone keeps telling me with the 2TG heads you should be able to whack the 3T pistons in and you wont have any trouble except the exhaust relief valve bit.
Anyways i hope people understand what i'm going on about..if not i'll try and get a picture of the head and i'll show you what i mean
Anyways still after another head Smile i guess i could switch the cams in my head with the new head i get?
Anyways catchyaz
Simon

P.S. when i go on about the 3T pistons, its coz i'm making a hybrid engine 2T/3T Cool
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Tue, 27 August 2002 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sorry about the late reply, internet just shit itself.

do you reckon you could take some pics of it for me? that is very odd, but if your sure that your head is different from that pic then you must have an updated head. I wonder if 3tgte pistons would fit into it then.

just remember that if you swap the cams around you'll need new shims, which were a bugger to get for that head.
rob.
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Tue, 27 August 2002 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
THe head that you have is a late emission one and not realy any good for much. The same goes for the pistons that came from that engine.
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icon5.gif  Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Thu, 29 August 2002 00:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andrew,

Do you have any pics or info on the low emmisions head ? I have a couple of 2TG heads at home and just want to make sure none of them are the low emmisions version. (None for sale sorry)

Was this a particular series of head or just something that was done for some markets ?

Thanks,
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icon10.gif  Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Thu, 29 August 2002 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Batesy,

Mate read my reply in the other 2T-G head wanted thread !

http://www.toymods.org.au/msgboard/msg.php?th=3307



[Updated on: Thu, 29 August 2002 01:13]

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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Thu, 29 August 2002 07:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Photos of emission cyl head. Hang on how do I post an image ?
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Thu, 29 August 2002 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andrew to post and image the pic needs to be up on the web somewhere so you can link to its URL.

There is an "Insert Image" Button just under the smilely face that turns around Rolling

If you have not got it on the net somewhere send it to me via email and Ill get it on the web for you Smile

Do you have the head series number for this head ? I'm guessing/hopeing its the unnumbered 88262 head. (numbers are on the cams only)

thanks,

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batesy
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Sat, 31 August 2002 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ive just recently took sum pictures of the off center head i have (gotta get them developed yet) and when i do i'll post them up here. At the moment ive bought another head (with circle domes) which is at the machining shop getting my valve relief areas done.
anyways gimme a week or two and i'll have the pic up here so u can have a look (hope they turn out alrite)
catchyaz Simon
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Mon, 09 September 2002 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Batesy/Andrew,

Do either of you have a Complete 88262 head you'd like to offload. (The offcentre high emmisions version) I want to get one flow benched and see just how much worse the headflow is I beleive it is quite alot poorer than the "normal" Head.

Freight is not a huge issue but obviously I'm only interessed in spending so much due to the poor performance nature of the head.

Andrew, (I looked at one on the weekend and it was the unnumbered 88262 head as thought.) That makes them much easier to avoid Smile

Thanks,
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inferno
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Mon, 09 September 2002 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
batesy: if your not going to use the head then i might be interested in buy it off you, if you still have most of the block.

rod: this head has been heavily ported, so i think you'll find that it will actually flow a LOT better than an ordinary head.

rob.

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batesy
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Mon, 09 September 2002 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey Rob,
Well i'm prolly not going to use that head you sold me so i wouldnt mind selling it.
I do have the turbo block that you also sold with the head BUT there is a lip in the top of the bores (so it needs to be rebored)
Also the crank in it is f#*$ed (but i have a 2T crank i can put in it) And 1 con rod is f#*$ed due to the crank being f#*$ed.
I'd love to sell the head with the turbo block and that other crank with all the conrod's with pistons. (you will need a new con rod)
If you are interested still give us a buzz either on here or by e-mail.
Just won quick thing tho, If i do sell the head/block stuff, i like to keep the toyota DOHC rocker cover and swap it with the toyota (older style rocker cover) rocker cover.
Anyways if ya still interesting give me a yell.
Simon
P.S. we'll talk price when someones interested Smile
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Mon, 09 September 2002 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob,

This particular head (Batesy's one) has been ported or the stock head looks like a ported head in your opinion ?

I am really looking for a STOCK unported head so I can compare the two.

Have you actually looked at the two chamber designs side by side. The 88262 valves appear to sit alot lower and I really want to compare the combustion chamber sizes. At initial glance it looks like the 88262 head has no chance in hell of offering any sort of N/A performance. Sad

Do you have head flow figures for this particular head or were you just told it was "Better now" by a workshop ?

Thanks Rob.



Batesy,

Sorry to hear you bought a Busted engine Sad Its always a gamble buying second hand engines I guess. I hope your not too out of Pocket.

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inferno
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Thu, 12 September 2002 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod: the guy that had originally built the engine told me it had been ported. I had the engine in my car for maybe 15kms, and down low it felt like it had tons of balls, nothing like any 2tg i've ever driven. I think the guy chose the #262 engine because they were the most similar to a 3tgte apparently, and he put oil lines into the block (as the #262 2tg already had the oil line castings or something?).

batesy: how far have you got with your hybrid engine? i can't really afford more 2tg parts at the moment. maybe we could make some swap with my efi gear? i'll have to think about some things first but.

rob.
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BigBadBenny
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Fri, 13 September 2002 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
To whom ever it concerns I am curently building a 3T-G.
Everyone who I asked about it all told me the common stuff, bluh blah blah valve reliefs blah blah blah grinding.
So in all australian style I've decided to screw what ppl say and just build it!
After I have got it running I will write a comprehensive step by step, part by part how to do.
So far it's going great guns, my head is fully recondioned with new valves and everything, I've got 40 thou oversized pistons, new rods and chrome-moly rings, the block is has been bored and everything fitted, and if everything goes well get it back from balancing on tuesday.
This weekend I'm playing carbi rebuilder, able to get hold of two solex kits $64 each.
also found genuien trupets for $24.80 each, little pricey.
but hopefully all running in a month or two.
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batesy
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Fri, 13 September 2002 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob
My hybrid engine is comming along slowly but getting there, just gotta get the head recon'ed and i'll be laughing all the way Smile)))
as for a swap.. what are you willing to trade? i'm after carbies and inlet manifold with all linkages etc?
or mabe fuel injection etc??
anyways just tell us what you wanna part with and we can do a deal Smile
Also to bigbadbenny, i'm also making a website on howto build a 3TG hybrid engine. Will be good to see what info you have that i dont visa-versa Smile

Anyways catchyaz round
Simon
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batesy
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Re: Wanted: early 2TG head Mon, 14 October 2002 11:31 Go to previous message
Hey all
Well i finally got these pics scaned and yeah, U can see the carbon on the head where it is oval and not circle like the normal 2TG heads
http://home.iprimus.com.au/vk5kbj/e01.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/vk5kbj/e02.jpg
Also u can see the difference in the pistons.
(the 2TG piston s on the left and the 3T pistons is on the right <-- which will soon be a 3T modified pistons for hybrid engine Evil or Very Mad
anyways got any more querys about it just reply Smile
catchyaz simon
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