Toymods Car Club
www.toymods.org.au
F.A.Q. F.A.Q.    Register Register    Login Login    Home Home
Members Members    Search Search
Toymods » Tech & Conversions » 1jz zorst and clutch issues

Show: Today's Posts  :: Show Polls 
Email to friend 
Switch to threaded view of this topic Create a new topic Submit Reply
AuthorTopic
naten
Regular


Location:
campbelltown
Registered:
May 2002
 
1jz zorst and clutch issues Thu, 18 March 2004 07:35 Go to next message
hey guys,

i have a couple of issues with my ma61 1jz-gte that i gotta sort out before i can get her engineered/regoed

i picked her up from the zorst shop today.

guess how loud she is, 102.5db 12.5db over the legal limit. its 3" all the way. 1 cat and 1 muff on the back. There is practically no room to mount another muff under the car. Has anyone faced this problem before ? to reduce 12.5db with one muffler is a big ask.

the other problem i have is the clutch is slipping once she makes any real boost, i can accelerate 1/3 and lightly boost around 5 psi before it will slip. not good.

i have a heavy pressure plate (around 800ish kg) with a normal organic full faced clutch (rpm96 kit num) I dont want to go to a button clutch unless i have no choice. I think i will have to but anyone got any suggestions or setups they have run with success ?

any help is very much appreciated

cheers
nathan

[Updated on: Thu, 18 March 2004 07:43]

  Send a private message to this user    
Skip
Forums Junkie


Location:
Perth
Registered:
October 2003
Re: 1jz zorst and clutch issues Thu, 18 March 2004 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Im having the same problem with my zorst, its too loud, mine is 3.5" with a single straight though dynomax muffler, im thinking of putting a resonator on, dont know whether it will help or not. My car is particularly annoying cruising along at freeway speeds. Maybe take it to a zorst shop, go for a spin with the owner and see what he thinks might reduce the noise. If you are happy with the level and just want to get it over the pits, replace one of your exhaust gaskets with a restrictor.

As for your clutch, your pressure plate sounds a bit piss poor. Mine is 8.6" with a 1200kg pressure plate, organic full face plate and works a treat. I have heard alot of unfavourable comments about "RPM" brand clutches. Ohyeah my clutch is dealing with a 1700+kg car too, not 1200 or so like yours.
  Send a private message to this user    
Chris Davey
Forums Junkie


Location:
sunny coast, qld
Registered:
October 2002
Re: 1jz zorst and clutch issues Thu, 18 March 2004 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i have a full 3 inch exhaust on my 1jz with no resonators and a single 3 inch muffler that is not straight through but has a slight bend in the middle. this decreases the sound a lot as my car can barely be heard on idle. havent had it tested though.
  Send a private message to this user    
draven
Forums Junkie


I supported Toymods

Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
 
Re: 1jz zorst and clutch issues Thu, 18 March 2004 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm with chris - my car is a 3" all the way through, with no cat and no resonators.
All I have is a single muffler on the end (dont tell the epa), and it is suprisingly quiet - at idle you cant hear it.
remember that at the end of the exhaust is where you want to make all your concessions - getting a quieter muffler on the end will result in better flow than putting on a more restrictive cat/another muffler close to the engine, where the gases are hotter and the flow is much faster

I dont know what's wrong with your clutch, but my setup is quite similar (heavy plate, full-faced clutch) and the only time I occasionally cook it is on *hard* launches - it never slips when boost comes on
  Send a private message to this user    
Norbie
Forums Junkie


Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
Re: 1jz zorst and clutch issues Thu, 18 March 2004 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Button clutches don't have to be as nasty as you think. I'm running a 5-puck ceramic clutch behind my 2JZ and it's perfectly drivable even in stop-start traffic. Not quite as smooth as an organic clutch but far from brutal.

Having said that, I originally had an organic clutch and it only slipped when I was really giving it arseholes. Your 1JZ shouldn't be enough to overwhelm a decent organic clutch, certainly not at 5psi. Go and talk to a performance clutch specialist, they will recommend something to best match your needs.
  Send a private message to this user    
naten
Regular


Location:
campbelltown
Registered:
May 2002
 
Re: 1jz zorst and clutch issues Fri, 19 March 2004 03:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yea i know my zorst sounds quiter then most of my mates shitboxes (n13's telstars etc) and all of them are apprently legal

been chasing some answers all day, no zorst shop is willing to make any guesses at to what the solution is. dont really wanna shell out for a new muff and find out its still over the limit Sad

dam it if only my car was a few months older it would be 96db
  Send a private message to this user    
gianttomato
Forums Junkie


I supported Toymods

Location:
I renounced punctuation
Registered:
May 2002
 
Re: 1jz zorst and clutch issues Fri, 19 March 2004 03:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If there is a flange somewhere in your exhaust, why don't you fit a dodgy doover in there? Get a bit of sheet metal cut it to the size of your flange, dril a few small holes in there and bolt it in to your exhaust where the flange is. Silent car for engineering purposes. Remove after all paperwork is generated.
  Send a private message to this user    
naten
Regular


Location:
campbelltown
Registered:
May 2002
 
Re: 1jz zorst and clutch issues Fri, 19 March 2004 03:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yea i thinking that is going to be the cheapest/easiest option so far

just frustrating cuz i dont have the fundage to be testing muffs left right and center

also seems that it should be quieter then what it is anyways

cheers
nathan
  Send a private message to this user    
onejayzed
Regular


Location:
Perth
Registered:
September 2003
Re: 1jz zorst and clutch issues Fri, 19 March 2004 04:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
800kgs isn't exactly a heavy pressure plate. 1.5ton is a heavy pressure plate!
by simply adding an 'S' of bends on the straight pipe work will reduce the 'boom' factor a fair bit, and the subsequent noise as well.
hope this helps.
  Send a private message to this user    
justcallmefrank
Forums Junkie


I supported Toymods

Location:
Perth
Registered:
May 2002
 
Re: 1jz zorst and clutch issues Fri, 19 March 2004 06:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Damn, 800kg is less than my stock GA70 pressure plate according to the clutch shop I spoke to, I'd be looking for a real heavy duty one! Smile

  Send a private message to this user    
Celia-Sue
Forums Junkie


Location:
Perth
Registered:
October 2002
Re: 1jz zorst and clutch issues Mon, 22 March 2004 02:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message

FWIW,

I've gone with two resonators in my 1JZ MA61 with straight through 3" system - one hotdog, one smaller. Haven't got the car running yet (still awaiting new ECU), so I can only hope that it'll pass inspection. Resonators are surprisingly cheap - especially if you get them same time as the rest of the zorst (ie 12" resonator wasn't that much more than a foot of mild steel exhaust pipe).

Good luck and let us know how you go,

Justin
JZA61
  Send a private message to this user    
KOFFEE-BLACK
Forums Junkie


Location:
Sydney
Registered:
March 2003
Re: 1jz zorst and clutch issues Mon, 22 March 2004 03:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
onejayzed wrote on Fri, 19 March 2004 15:05

800kgs isn't exactly a heavy pressure plate. 1.5ton is a heavy pressure plate!
by simply adding an 'S' of bends on the straight pipe work will reduce the 'boom' factor a fair bit, and the subsequent noise as well.
hope this helps.


Isnt the whole point of an aftermarket exhaust, is to free up bends, make it larger, and gain performance?

Adding resonators, does that chew performance away??
  Send a private message to this user    
E30-323ti
Regular


Registered:
June 2002
Re: 1jz zorst and clutch issues Tue, 23 March 2004 01:11 Go to previous message
I am running a 3" exhaust.
It has a flowmaster in the middle & a straight through at the back, and it is real quiet.

I use to only have the straight through at the back and it was really loud (by comparison), added the flowmaster under the middle and it quietened it heaps.
  Send a private message to this user    
  Switch to threaded view of this topic Create a new topic Submit Reply
Previous Topic:mods to a sprinter...
Next Topic:problem: start up (4agze aw11)
Goto Forum:
-=] Back to Top [=-

Current Time: Thu Nov 14 21:43:19 UTC 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.012065172195435 seconds

Bandwidth utilization bar

.:: Contact :: Home ::.

Powered by: FUDforum 2.3.8
Copyright ©2001-2003 Advanced Internet Designs Inc.