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NSW.south coast.Drifting
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February 2004
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Brisbane / Gold Coast
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Re: AE86*engine question
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Wed, 24 March 2004 19:19
 
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Japanese import RWD 4AGE's are 97kW, not 86kW.
Very common mistake.
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: AE86*engine question
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Wed, 24 March 2004 21:52
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The Jap spec RWD 4AGE having more power than the Aus spec 4AGE Is that only due to the ECU, or is there another difference in the engine?
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: AE86*engine question
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Wed, 24 March 2004 22:23
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97kw! never knew that, never even seen that anywhere before!
so therefore for the $$ i save by getting a rwd JDM blue top i could easily gain that 3kw and it would be even simpler to put into my car?
guess now im looking for a jdm big port!
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Club Member
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sydney
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May 2002
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Re: AE86*engine question
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Thu, 25 March 2004 05:06
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Yes Joel its all in the ecu map differences
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: AE86*engine question
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Thu, 25 March 2004 07:58
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11kw from an ecu? that a fair gain, AUS spec must be detuned to the core.
this power figure is on japan 103RON(something like that) compared to our 98RON fuel isn't it.
anyone got one of these in their sprinter? how does it go?
thanks for your help
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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northern beaches
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August 2002
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Re: AE86*engine question
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Thu, 25 March 2004 10:44
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while were on the topic of performance, what sort of performance can i expect out of my planned red top conversion? (im aware its not going to be a drag car) ie. will i give things like ET pulsars a run for there money or do i have no chance? ive never been in a twinky sprinter.
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: AE86*engine question
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Thu, 25 March 2004 10:52
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so im basically looking at 55rwkw from the blue top, which is about the same as the red top right?? how much was your blue top? what kind of performance am i looking at here? GTI swift? how long does it wheelspin in 2nd when you flatshift it(  )?
and tell me if im wrong but im guessing that there are no rwd 4age motors that arn't jap imported (i just dont want to be jibbed 11kw from the engine supplier) how can you tell the jap motors?
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: AE86*engine question
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Thu, 25 March 2004 11:36
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| 45aken wrote on Thu, 25 March 2004 21:52 |
so im basically looking at 55rwkw from the blue top, which is about the same as the red top right?? how much was your blue top? what kind of performance am i looking at here? GTI swift? how long does it wheelspin in 2nd when you flatshift it( )?
and tell me if im wrong but im guessing that there are no rwd 4age motors that arn't jap imported (i just dont want to be jibbed 11kw from the engine supplier) how can you tell the jap motors?
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There will/should be a fan on the water pump and the throttle bodie will be at the timing belt end of the motor (facing the front) were as the fwd will have the throttle bodie facing the rear of the sprinter. These are the ones i remember, there have been more.
The cars i have eatin/beaten so far:
All n/a lancers i come up against, 5 so far, even the 1.8ltrs
All n/a excels i come against, 4-5 (especially fat chicks with body kits, i love beatin her)
3 v6 commodores
2 gti swifts (just, there pretty quit) and 1 non gti (the owner thought it was, but i proved him wrong)
1 ea falcon v8 (i think his motor wasnt in the gratest condition)
1 89 (i think) prelude
1 96 v6 3ltr magna (wife)
Yet to try - Silvias, 180sx.
I dont like/want to brag on too much but im alot quicker then most people/road user think.
I think you'll be plesently suprised by the acceleration.
Not as quick in 3rd and 4th as id like it too be, maybe some cams?
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: AE86*engine question
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Thu, 25 March 2004 11:44
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its only a 1.6L dude.. you cant expect torque without some forced air!
The 100kW conversion really isnt as hard as everyone makes it out to be! Its just a cutnshut, some messing around with pipes and hoses (easy as), and a spigot bearing. How hard can that be?
They are also very readily available.
I like it, its got great throttle response, plenty of pickup in most gears/speeds, and does wonders of stunning most cars.
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campbelltown
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November 2002
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Re: AE86*engine question
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Thu, 25 March 2004 12:05
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| FKN16V wrote on Thu, 25 March 2004 22:36 |
| 45aken wrote on Thu, 25 March 2004 21:52 |
so im basically looking at 55rwkw from the blue top, which is about the same as the red top right?? how much was your blue top? what kind of performance am i looking at here? GTI swift? how long does it wheelspin in 2nd when you flatshift it( )?
and tell me if im wrong but im guessing that there are no rwd 4age motors that arn't jap imported (i just dont want to be jibbed 11kw from the engine supplier) how can you tell the jap motors?
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There will/should be a fan on the water pump and the throttle bodie will be at the timing belt end of the motor (facing the front) were as the fwd will have the throttle bodie facing the rear of the sprinter. These are the ones i remember, there have been more.
The cars i have eatin/beaten so far:
All n/a lancers i come up against, 5 so far, even the 1.8ltrs
All n/a excels i come against, 4-5 (especially fat chicks with body kits, i love beatin her)
3 v6 commodores
2 gti swifts (just, there pretty quit) and 1 non gti (the owner thought it was, but i proved him wrong)
1 ea falcon v8 (i think his motor wasnt in the gratest condition)
1 89 (i think) prelude
1 96 v6 3ltr magna (wife)
Yet to try - Silvias, 180sx.
I dont like/want to brag on too much but im alot quicker then most people/road user think.
I think you'll be plesently suprised by the acceleration.
Not as quick in 3rd and 4th as id like it too be, maybe some cams?
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reading this is makeing me anxious cause i get to drive my sprinter in a week with a jap-spec 4age
oh and the jap fuel vs ours would that make the kw's drop?
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: AE86*engine question
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Fri, 26 March 2004 02:06
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thanks ppl!
what kind of performance gains are expected with cams + ecu???
where is the power going to be in the rev range with slightly bigger cams? what do these engines rev out to? any major/common problems???
this is the bigport version right? so therefore turbo'ing wouldn't be that hard, running low boost with stock internals (maybe low comp, pistions etc)
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AE86*engine question
