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Jaycar audio gear...any good? Fri, 26 March 2004 03:56 Go to next message
HEy guys I'm interested in getting some audio gear (12" sub and a set of 4" for the front doors) and I was just wondering how Jaycar stuff stacks up against the more known brands (Sony, Pioneer, MTX etc)....looking around and it seems that the Jaycar stuff isn't much cheaper these days than the brand names, is it better quality or not? Confused

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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Fri, 26 March 2004 04:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
From what I have been told, as long as you stick with the response stuff its pretty decent. Got some 6.5" response splits going in at the moment. Almost finished Smile
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Fri, 26 March 2004 05:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You have to understand that generally Jaycar has operated to a different business model to most marketing-driven car audio companies; probably a result of its different corporate background.

It won't come with flashy led's, names like 'Xplod' (shudder) and Super X DBAss or other nonsense, but it's reputed to be no-nonsense reliable product.

I'll be running two Jaycar 2x150 amplifiers in my system.

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(Sony, Pioneer, MTX etc)....

There is more to car audio than this, try visiting somewhere other than the Yellow store or the Red store.
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Fri, 26 March 2004 05:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
anythings gotta be beter then Sony car audio anyway!!!. I have never heard anythign bad about jaycar products.
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Fri, 26 March 2004 06:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I've got a 2x150 jaycar amp and it works very well. Good bang for buck

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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Fri, 26 March 2004 06:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Clown wrote on Fri, 26 March 2004 16:10

anythings gotta be beter then Sony car audio anyway!!!. I have never heard anythign bad about jaycar products.


there is nothing wrong with sony car audio gear except it is overpriced. im not a fan of there speakers but they have some other good stuff around.
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Fri, 26 March 2004 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I set up a mate of mine's car with 5" Response co-axials front and back (off a 4x45w Kenwood head), and a $200 Jaycar sub with a bridged 4x50w Jaycar amp and the result is really quite awesome. Considering the total cost was somewhere around $1500 including a 10 stacker, the bang-for-your-buck factor is amazing.

I've also run a pair of the Response 6x9s in the parcel shelf* of my Swift for a number of years and i'm very happy with them.

* Reinforced with 18mm MDF.
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Fri, 26 March 2004 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
good value for money
but still cheap product and wont compete will bigger brands

their coax with those moving tweeters are meant to be heaps good, but quite expensive aswell.

their amps heaps of people have used them and some are happy with them, though plenty people have blown them up and has fault here and there aswell

their response double magnet subs are quite good, one car used to run four of these and has won many spl comps

if u have small budget then go for it, for slightly more money u can go coustics, pg octanes, alpine mrp, etc...
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Mon, 29 March 2004 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok my next question is it worth spending the extra (and its quite a bit extra) to get the "expensive 5" speakers" or are the "Cheap" ones almost as good? Are the more expensive speakers worth it?

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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Mon, 29 March 2004 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok my next question is it worth spending the extra (and its quite a bit extra) to get the "expensive 5" speakers" or are the "Cheap" ones almost as good? Are the more expensive speakers worth it (the magnets look much bigger)?

Cheap
http://www1.jaycar.com.au/products_uploaded/productLarge_399.jpg

Kinda Cheap Razz
http://www1.jaycar.com.au/products_uploaded/productLarge_404.jpg

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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Mon, 29 March 2004 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Look at the frequency response outputs that come with the speakers when (hopefully they were) tested. That will be your first clue.

You know the old saying, if you want quality you have to pay for it.

On the other hand you might luck out with some nice speakers from BMW wreck........... Rolling Eyes
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Mon, 29 March 2004 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have just bought a pair of the 6.5" splits purely based on other peoples opinions, i think that is a fair enough reason to believe that yes they are quite good. Don't expect focal utopia quality or performance and if your not happy with them you've only wasted at worst $160 Very Happy

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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Mon, 29 March 2004 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dont even think about getting the CHEAP speakers... they are turd vibrators that occasionally make what can be called "sounds".

Dont forget that the Hi-Quality coaxials are sold EACH - meaning you have to buy two to make a pair. Hence the cost is highish. But when you compare them to what is available in the coaxial and split system market at the same price - they are unbeatable!

For a good sound, easy install (OEM fit) and moderate price, they are hard to pass by. Ultimately, a car is not the kind of environment you are going to get high quality sounds from.

The amps yes occasionally do blow up or have a fault, but they are cheap, and Jaycar do have a 1 year warranty which returns the goods usually within a two week period. I challenge ANY other car audio company to have that speedy a turnaround for a warranty repair!
**i used to work at a "brand name" car audio place, and the best warranty turnaround times were about a month from Blaupunkt.... the rest were up to 2 months and sometimes even 3!!

P.S. Gimme a PM if you want to know more, and not questions like "wat about da BOSS 100000W amps bro? How good is dat?"

P.P.S. For those that dont know, i work at jaycar
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Mon, 29 March 2004 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
THE WITZL: Are you able to advise me on perhaps if I can do much about my Kevlar response speakers which I suspect I may have got a metal file in between the pole piece and cone of 1 woofer? Sad

Would they be able to take a look at it perhaps?
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Mon, 29 March 2004 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DUUDE! it is seriously more work than its worth to "fix" a speaker. Ripping out a voice coil and putting it back is no easy task dude.... it SUCKS!

I would try to get it out another way - like shaking it perhaps? i dont know how the hell you got some metal down there though mate!
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Mon, 29 March 2004 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I suspected that but being in between, its obviously stuck to the magnet piece on the inside. So no shaking will get it out and Im not sure either how it could have got in there. Was like it when I first plugged it in.

Cant say that theres really is anything in there but on certain types of bass (even softly) there is a bad scratching noise. Only that speaker does it and it sounds terrible. Sad
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Mon, 29 March 2004 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dude, same thing happened to a 12" sub of mine a while ago. I just kept using it and after a week or so of scratchy sound it dislodged, and the sub is working perfectly a year later. You might be as lucky as me!
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Mon, 29 March 2004 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This is for The Witzl: I was thinking of buying an amp from Jaycar, the Response amp. Its the 4x100 WRMS or 2x200WRMS at 2ohms or something like that and its $329, is it any good? I mean as in reliable to run 2 subs?

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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Mon, 29 March 2004 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have a 4 x 100 amp that runs 2 12" pioneer subs. The amp is rated to give each of the 2 bridged channels 300RMS but i'm pretty sure they actually put out more like 320RMS.
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Tue, 30 March 2004 02:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah I was hoping witzl would raise his head Very Happy , I realise that the 5" response speakers are sold as individuals, but I figure I might as well get something a bit better and only have to buy them once. I only wish I had the room for 6" but it just isn't going to happen and look stock like I want it too (don't want it standing out).

BTW I'm getting them through electus so thats a bonus.. (bit cheaper, prbly not as cheap as you still tho Laughing )

Also I was looking at the 12" Profile Polycone Subwoofer
(I have a 4x100rms amp that I was going to bridge to drive it) The reason I was looking at it was because jaycar also sell a 35l box for it (I know the tuning isn't as good, but the size of the box is nice and small and its cheaper than making one really), do you feel that the tuning of the small box lets it down? I guess I can always decide to build a bigger box later if I feel it does let it down a lot...seems to have good power and sensitivity...
http://www1.jaycar.com.au/products_uploaded/productLarge_6795.jpg

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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Tue, 30 March 2004 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wilbo, i was looking at buying the ten inch version of that sub, but i got the "blue dual voice coil" one and am really happy with it (its in a sealed box with a Qtc somewhere in the vicinity of .7071, and built to golden ratios!!).

i got the dual coil sub because,

it has a lower natural frequency,
it has a flat dudt cap (i know this would make SFA difference, but i like flat dust caps.)


what do you mean not as cheap as you think through electus, thats where i got mine, and it was, um quite a bit cheaper.

if you need reassuring, see what the same money would buy you in sony Xplod gear, or some other shitty brand.
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Tue, 30 March 2004 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The profile subs i would also call turd vibrators

Stick with the double mag 12" (aka "precision"), the carbon fibre 12" or the 15" precision.

As far as the 4x100Wrms amp goes... we have discontinued it now (dont know why so dont ask) and there are only a few left in some stores. It sux bad cos i wanted one too.

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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Tue, 30 March 2004 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shinybluesteel wrote on Tue, 30 March 2004 17:04


what do you mean not as cheap as you think through electus, thats where i got mine, and it was, um quite a bit cheaper.



Just thinking that jaycar wholesale would prbly be cheaper than an order of one through electus, you are right tho there is quite a saving through electus Very Happy

Yeah the 10" that you mention is (10" metal coated) catching my eye now, as is the 12" carbon fiber one (this is originally what I was going to get but the box size required is steering me off, I want my boot back!)

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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Wed, 31 March 2004 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Electus IS Jaycar Wholesale... Jaycar splits its retail and wholesale into two companies years ago...

Electus is cheaper than retail (obviously), however, I would definately talk to Witzl before going to Erectus... I mean um Electus.
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Re: Jaycar audio gear...any good? Wed, 31 March 2004 03:27 Go to previous message
Thanks mate I do know that electus supply jaycar, but with group buying and staff discount I'm pretty sure that Witzl will be cheaper and still be able to make something for himself to make it worth his while.

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