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I supported Toymods
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 Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Thu, 01 April 2004 14:36
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Driving on my way to the pub, revved to 5k in first gear up a slightly inclined hill.
power dies *engine check light comes on*
change to 2nd, nothing engines stopped.
nrma reckons the timing belt is shreaded.. but will check. i did a diagnostics on the spot and it gave me an error 12. 1 .05 second blink and 2 shorter blinks.
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July 2003
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Thu, 01 April 2004 23:49
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Its a bit difficult too say, what was the diagnosis code again.
I would think the motor would just die straight away if the timing belt broke.
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Fri, 02 April 2004 01:10
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Definately timing belt symptoms...
At least 4A belts aren't hard to change
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Fri, 02 April 2004 03:23
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yeah it was the belt damm fwd
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cambo
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May 2002
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Fri, 02 April 2004 12:17
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have u done the belt yet or u need help i havent done one in ages
0422948007 matt do u have tools? my top box & roll cab wont fit in my car.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Sat, 03 April 2004 08:43
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done the belt but it still wont start. timing is set. dizzy might be weak as the power from the coil is strong but not from the dizzy to the sparkies..
any spare 100kw dizzy/rotors?
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Sat, 03 April 2004 10:34
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put a bloody toymods sticker on your car... then maybe i might've stopped!
P.S. you bogan going to the Tav.... PFFT!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Sat, 03 April 2004 10:55
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i do have a toymods sticker on my car 
oh well thanks anyway
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Sun, 04 April 2004 06:34
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are you ABSOLUTELY sure that you have the cams in the right position?? did you rotate motor to check the valves are going up and down at the right time?
did you rotate motor to verify that the dizzy rotor is in the correct position relative to the cams, AND the crank?
not too often that a "dizzy is weak", since all it does is distribute spark....
double check your mechanical before starting an electrical diagnosis 
didn't knock off any plugs?
Cya, Stewart
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Sun, 04 April 2004 07:22
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no no, what i mean is..
"have you verified that your valves are opening and closing at the correct time"
that is CRUCIAL to the motor running, and cylinders firing.
aftyer you have mechanically verified that the valves are opening (looking at pins is not good enough )
then MECHANICALLY VERIFY that the dizzy is in the correct position.
from the cap you are not getting power??? what exactly do you mean by that?
if the coil is putting out, then either the dizzy is not aligned correctly, the cams are not aligned correctly, or you've bent and broken the conductors in your leads...
it is most likely to be something mechanical, cam timing, dizzy timing, damage to leads, etc..
Cya, Stewart
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Sun, 04 April 2004 09:21
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damn, i didnt think leads had resistance that high...well not really high, but i would of thought it was alot lower than that
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Sun, 04 April 2004 12:54
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thanks karl
i found out what it was.. haha i feel so stupid right now..
I DID rotate the crank so its dtc and pistons were hitting the top BUT I didn't look for the cavity pin on the intake cam shaft under the oil cap to see if it was compression. doh 
i assumed it was compression becuase turning the crank it got heavy so i assumed.. haha it should start tommorow morning when theres light.
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Mon, 05 April 2004 00:56
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silly boy!!!!
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Re: Help my 4AG doesnt turn
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Mon, 05 April 2004 01:05
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ok now the bitch turns! 
but its idling rough, sounds like the map sensor is unplugged (alittle rotor styling) and it stalls
ive tried the 4ag book but still no avail.
its hard to start needs throttle or else it will just crank any ideas?
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