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white smoke
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Fri, 09 April 2004 09:59
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heys all
im new to this club, and new to turbo cars.
i've just recently bought myself a 1988 st185 toyota celica gt4. i've had it for bout a month now, and haven't really trashed it. yes i've driven it hard, but neva hit redline, and always warmed up my car and turbo timed it b4 and after driving hard.
just today, my friend noticed that after starting it, white smoke began to come out from my exhaust. it wasn't alot but it was constant when i was idling. it'd stop all together after bout 5minutes of driving.
my friend says it could be my turbo, turbo oil lines, other oil lines or my cooling system. can anyone shed light on this area.
also if it indeed in my turbo or oil lines, how much will a second one cost or would it be better to recon it? also wat other turbo'w will bolt straight in?
sorry for the long post and thx for your time and help
alvin
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: white smoke
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Fri, 09 April 2004 14:50
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Hey,
Sounds like a Nice car u got...
Usually with 3sfe/3sge/3sgtes the valve steam seals can go.. usually its a symptom that they will smoke at idle...
I'm not exactly sure, but thats what i've been told
These guys will be able to help u out more!!!
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: white smoke
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Fri, 09 April 2004 14:51
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I heard also it could be a Head Gasket on the way if its white smoke...
These are just ideas.. it could be something completely different!!
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I supported Toymods
Banned User
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: white smoke
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Fri, 09 April 2004 14:52
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Pull the intercooler off and have a look inside it. If its full of oil you probably have a turbo problem.
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Location:
Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: white smoke
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Fri, 09 April 2004 15:11
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Aloso take it to mechanic aand get them to bubble test it for a Blown head gasket. it will soon telly uo if its that or not
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South Australia
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July 2002
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tas
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June 2002
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Re: white smoke
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Sat, 10 April 2004 07:27
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also remember that when you first start your car the computer will make it run richer until the engine has warmed up and starts to lean out. If the smoke is like steam then there is probably water condensation in your tailpipe evaporating.
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Sunshine Coast
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March 2004
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Re: white smoke
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Sun, 11 April 2004 05:43
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could be the head gasket on its way out..when i brought my car it had a tiny bit of white smoke..3 weeks later the head gasket went and cooked my engine..u will know if u have a blown gasket  ..other then that my knowledge of the turbo side of it is low
good luck
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sydney
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March 2004
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Re: white smoke
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Sun, 11 April 2004 05:58
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if its cold at night and u just started up the car, i find it quite normal for white smoke for first few minute
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theres a castle on my hil...
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October 2003
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Re: white smoke
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Sun, 11 April 2004 07:00
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white smoke usually means water is getting into the combustion chamber which could mean head gasket. do what fwdboy said to check for bubbles. if thats a problem and you cheap, buy a bottle of radiatior stop leak, poor it in the radiator and re-tension your headgasket. this only work sometimes other wise you probably need a new gasket.
if it was an oil problem then the smoke would be blue.
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Location:
brisbane
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March 2003
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Re: white smoke
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Sun, 11 April 2004 08:13
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to what tommo said.. while you have the head off get it machined flat cause the head could also be warped
does it run funny when you first start it int he morning if it has that sympton then it will definately be head gasket and/or warped head
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: white smoke
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Sun, 11 April 2004 13:20
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gotta remember that the combustion products from petrol are mostly CO2 and H20, ie water 
when the air is cold, it will condense as steam...
stick your head in this 'smoke' and see if it smells like smoke
Cya, Stewart
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Location:
Western Australia
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April 2004
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Re: white smoke
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Tue, 13 April 2004 21:57
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well thats the funny thing, im nto sure if its my head gasket or engine.
cuz i have a water to air cooler, i took of the cap once, and saw taht the water has a slight tinge of red..is this good? also there seems to b quite a bit of oil surrounding my intercooler inlet pipe, where it connects to the turbo.
when i boost it, the smoke that comes out is not black, nor is it blue. its grey. is this normal? should i really take it to a workshop to get it check out?
thx all
alvin
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theres a castle on my hil...
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October 2003
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: white smoke
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Wed, 14 April 2004 00:44
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Umm - in regards to sticking your head in the smoke - I would imagine it's probably not the healthiest thing to do, esp. with modern fuels and the additives - hehehe.
It's possible that if the engine has coked up a fair bit over the years that smoke could be slightly greyish or it could be rich mixture (like my car).
See if you can smell a *very* petrol-like smell near the rear of your car (although don't smell too hard) that would indicate an overly rich mixture. Oh, and yeah, do the bubble test, like, yesterday or something 
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Location:
Sunshine Coast
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February 2004
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Re: white smoke
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Wed, 14 April 2004 00:56
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any way to lean down an engine fairly easily?
the back of mine is always covered in soot :\
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tas
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June 2002
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Re: white smoke
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Wed, 14 April 2004 11:50
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yeah my exuast smells of gas, i am sure it's running way rich.
would it be such a bad idea to advance/retard the timing a few degree's?
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: white smoke
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Wed, 14 April 2004 14:41
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Generally it's not a timing problem. If the exhaust is clear, yet smells of petrol, then try changing the timing a bit (it may help the smell of petrol). If the exhaust is 'dirty' (dark) and smells of petrol, then you are running rich and timing has less to do with the problem.
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Location:
Western Australia
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April 2004
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Re: white smoke
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Thu, 15 April 2004 15:41
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ok i started it up this morning, since it was cold and my friend was ova.
i left it on till the rad water started to come out, and sofar no sign of bubbles. have i done the bubble test?
also the water to air intercooler, wat colour is the liquid suppose to b?? mines a bit red/black...this aint good issit?
thx all aye
alvin
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