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Chris_RA60
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Unleaded Petrol in Leaded engines. What damage? Tue, 20 August 2002 11:23 Go to next message
I have a friend who's been running his leaded car on optimax (PULP), thinking that it had hardened valve seats, which it doesn't.
What damage can be done, and what are the symptons?

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p.s. no, it's not me, my car runs fine on optimax
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Re: Unleaded Petrol in Leaded engines. What damage? Tue, 20 August 2002 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What I'v seen after reconditioning heads for a couple of years is this new LRP is more damaging to the valves than PULP .

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Re: Unleaded Petrol in Leaded engines. What damage? Tue, 20 August 2002 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmmm...so would u reccomend running a 2T on ULP as opposed to LRP ??

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Re: Unleaded Petrol in Leaded engines. What damage? Tue, 20 August 2002 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
2T's have hardened valve seats, so definitely run it on ULP.
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Re: Unleaded Petrol in Leaded engines. What damage? Tue, 20 August 2002 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sweet

BP Ultimate here i come. hehehe
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Re: Unleaded Petrol in Leaded engines. What damage? Wed, 21 August 2002 04:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Be careful, i know some sites have said my engine (18R) has hardened valve seats, but it doesnt.
From memory only the 18R-C and 18R-G's had hardened valve seats.

The same could apply to 2T's as they are around the same age.
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Re: Unleaded Petrol in Leaded engines. What damage? Wed, 21 August 2002 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i run my 2T on PULP - no issues (yet)

that said the only issue from running a leaded car on PULP is the noxious fumes due to no cat and hammering of the valve seats.
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Re: Unleaded Petrol in Leaded engines. What damage? Wed, 21 August 2002 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Would i need to adjust anything on my 2T to run it on ULP or PULP at all ??
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Re: Unleaded Petrol in Leaded engines. What damage? Wed, 21 August 2002 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The 18R is a different case as it has a cast iron cylinder head. The 2T has an alloy head so it definitely has hardened valve seats; you can't seat the valves in bare alloy!

A stock 2T will run fine as is on PULP, but you may experience detonation if you run regular ULP (unlikely, but possible). Try both and see how it runs.
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Re: Unleaded Petrol in Leaded engines. What damage? Wed, 21 August 2002 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanx Heaps Norbie

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Re: Unleaded Petrol in Leaded engines. What damage? Wed, 21 August 2002 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm not sure about this, but I think that LRP is 97 RON, PULP is 95RON, and stuff like Optimax, BP ultimate etc.. is 98 RON.
Normal Unleaded is around 92. So depending what petrol you're running, you may need to retune your car
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Re: Unleaded Petrol in Leaded engines. What damage? Thu, 22 August 2002 00:15 Go to previous message
The official (govt regulated) figures are:
Regular ULP: 91 RON
Premium ULP: 95 RON
Leaded/LRP: 95 RON

Note that these are minimum figures; some distributors choose to go higher, but they're not allowed to go lower.
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