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The end of straight six engines?
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Tue, 13 April 2004 00:41
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What I heard on a best motoring video was that toyota was going to stopped the prodution on the 1jz and 2jz also nissan with their rb's, but does anyone know why? or what is going on? ixent lexus producing straight six engines? also my guess every car in the future will be a v instead of the good old straigt
What the hell is going on? Also is Nissan really owned by Renalt? The Q35 gtr is coming in 07 with a v6, i sed it once and ill say it again what the hells going on?
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Tue, 13 April 2004 00:47
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That article is a load of crap IMO. The I6 is inherintly smoother than the V6 and will continue to be used in luxury cars if nothing else.
The next GT-R is called the R35. The next Skyline will (I think) be called the Q35.
And yup, I think Nissan is owned by Renault. They're owned by someone big at least.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 00:51
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Renault is big?
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Tue, 13 April 2004 00:52
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I thought nissan owned renault, not the other way arround.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 00:53
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V6 engines are becoming increasingly popular simply because of packaging reasons, ie they're much more compact. I don't think we've seen the end of the inline six though, there's still a place for them.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 00:59
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The best engine in the world, the RB26DETT,[/sarcasm] is over 15 years old. The JZ motors are 14 years old.Production dates - in terms of development dates they are even older.
The RB series were an improvement over the L series, the JZ were an improvement over the M series.
Now the VQ series craps all over the RB series as do the GR series over the JZ.
Everytime I see a 350Z with the beautiful VQ35DE being turfed in favor of the rattly old RB26DETT, I feel dumber.
Comments regarding smoothness of V6 engines might apply for chalf cutters like the Buick and Capri V6s (the roots of which date back to the 50's), but not for these modern beautifully engineered V6s.
It's called progress fellas. Get on the train. It's leaving the station. 
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Tue, 13 April 2004 01:03
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| gianttomato wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 10:59 |
The best engine in the world, the RB26DETT,[/sarcasm] is over 15 years old. The JZ motors are 14 years old.Production dates - in terms of development dates they are even older.
The RB series were an improvement over the L series, the JZ were an improvement over the M series.
Now the VQ series craps all over the RB series as do the GR series over the JZ.
Everytime I see a 350Z with the beautiful VQ35DE being turfed in favor of the rattly old RB26DETT, I feel dumber.
Comments regarding smoothness of V6 engines might apply for chalf cutters like the Buick and Capri V6s (the roots of which date back to the 50's), but not for these modern beautifully engineered V6s.
It's called progress fellas. Get on the train. It's leaving the station.
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do you get zoom mags in melbourne, if you do, start reading them
There arent any vq turbo engines out whet, what vq crapes all over the rb, eheheh, let me see a 350americana beat a rb26tt, maybe in dream land, also at t88 on a supra flows 1000rpm faster than a rb26 so get your facts right dopy
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Tue, 13 April 2004 01:06
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Sure boy genius. I'll get to it.
As soon as I work out how to hook up a Microtech to my carbed 4AC. 
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Tue, 13 April 2004 01:07
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| bubbles wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 10:54 |
Dont the v shaped engines cause too much heat like the 300zx?
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No, the 300ZX just didn't get any airflow through the engine bay.
| gianttomato wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 10:59 |
Comments regarding smoothness of V6 engines might apply for chalf cutters like the Buick and Capri V6s (the roots of which date back to the 50's), but not for these modern beautifully engineered V6s.
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I didn't say the V6s weren't smooth, I just said the I6s were smoother which makes them good candidates for applications where NVH matters a lot like in luxury cars.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 01:07
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| bubbles wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:03 |
do you get zoom mags in melbourne, if you do, start reading them
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Tue, 13 April 2004 01:10
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Bubbles, im pretty sure that if we are talking stock engines here then a VQ and an RB26 make very similar power figures. Obviously though, you wanna start making attacks on people telling them they are dopey coz your RB26 with a F*CKING huge T88 would be faster than a stock 6...
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Tue, 13 April 2004 01:10
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| bubbles wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:03 |
do you get zoom mags in melbourne, if you do, start reading them
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Ummm Excuseeeeeee me but admiting to buying a current zoom magazine is the equivlent of slaping a dickhead sticker on your forhead, it used to be readable tech articals now its just a generic Gay4's magazine and advetisements for that tillbrook and JMS place!
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| Nark wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:07 |
I didn't say the V6s weren't smooth, I just said the I6s were smoother which makes them good candidates for applications where NVH matters a lot like in luxury cars.
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2005 GS300 and 2004 Crown Zero are fitted with the new 3GR-FSE. Please comment.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 01:12
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| bubbles wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:03 |
do you get zoom mags in melbourne, if you do, start reading them
There arent any vq turbo engines out whet, what vq crapes all over the rb, eheheh, let me see a 350americana beat a rb26tt, maybe in dream land, also at t88 on a supra flows 1000rpm faster than a rb26 so get your facts right dopy
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Geez... I hope one day you stop reading the mags and actually go out and work on engines.
And I wouldn't go around calling someone "dopy" before you know who they are and how much they know... May make you look quite dopey... 
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Tue, 13 April 2004 01:17
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| Nark wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:12 |
I wouldn't go around calling someone "dopy" before you know who they are and how much they know... May make you look quite dopey...
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just like someone who said
"I didn't say the V6s weren't smooth, I just said the I6s were smoother which makes them good candidates for applications where NVH matters a lot like in luxury cars. "
Then someone points out
"2005 GS300 and 2004 Crown Zero are fitted with the new 3GR-FSE."
Your officaly OWNED... please move along (and get the a friggn gallery up and stop wasting time posting :PPP )
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| gianttomato wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:10 |
| Nark wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:07 |
I didn't say the V6s weren't smooth, I just said the I6s were smoother which makes them good candidates for applications where NVH matters a lot like in luxury cars.
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I didn't say they were the only candidates for luxury applications either.
The fact is that they are smoother due to their design. That fact doesn't lead to all luxury cars only using I6s nor does it mean that V6s can't be smooth. You're putting words into my mouth. 
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Tue, 13 April 2004 01:19
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| Allan wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:17 |
Your officaly OWNED... please move along (and get the a friggn gallery up and stop wasting time posting :PPP )
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You need to learn how to spell...
And I can't work on the gallery until I get home. 
I can tell you the photos are good though......... 
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Tue, 13 April 2004 01:23
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| Nark wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:19 |
You need to learn how to spell...
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Never said i can spell, too many years in IT for me im a lost cause, even my handwriting is stuffed!
I can spell Administrator tho
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Tue, 13 April 2004 01:36
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I have my doubts about your ability to spell HTML, Allan...
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Tue, 13 April 2004 01:44
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So inline-6 engines, have in recent years been replaced by V6 engines in alot of cases. Could a reason for this be that a V6 engine can be mounted transversley and be used for both front wheel drive, and all-wheel drive applications?
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Tue, 13 April 2004 02:51
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I wouldn't go as far to say that the i6 is dead, maybe from japan but what about the 4.0ltre turboed 6 that the xr6t's have? Theres plenty of power waiting to be unleashed in that, and because of the bigger cubes, should be able to blow away a jz or rb.
And your comparing a na v6 to a twin turboed rb26, there is no comparison, take those turboes off and things become a lot more interesting. Next skyline is v35 and the next gtr is going to have a 3.2ltre vq32dett pushing over 400hp
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Tue, 13 April 2004 05:26
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Hi,
From what I've read in Euro car mags, it seems that future crash regulations involving pedestrians will make packaging an inline 6 a bit more difficult.
The shift will involve more downward sloping noses, and some "shock absorbtion" system for pedestrian accidents. It seems that making the whole engine sit behind strut towers is the easiest way to do this.
Plus there seems to be a big push for close to 50/50 balance by many car companies. V6's obviously make this easier.
My 2c.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 05:40
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| Allan wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:17 |
"2005 GS300 and 2004 Crown Zero are fitted with the new 3GR-FSE."
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excuse my ignorace and lack of desire to search  whats the FSE. (narrow angle head, ???, EFI) just havent heard the S before ?
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Tue, 13 April 2004 06:36
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S = direct injection. It's the way of the future!
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Tue, 13 April 2004 06:55
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| moo4AGZETA22 wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 15:26 |
Some Scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that stupidity is the basic building block of the universe. (Frank Zappa)
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Joe's Garage - great album. Also all his Mothers of Invention stuff. RIP Frankie.
I posted a bit of stuff about the GR series engines a little while ago. They're pumping out about 100 Nm/litre of torque. Pretty good for a run of the mill NA engine.
Be a great conversion engine.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 09:04
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teh powahz of teh morons compells j00!
I like reading these things, they are funny. Now its time for me to sit back and do some reading before i even think about knowing anything about the new generation of jap motors.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 09:16
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for what it is (a 3.5L n/a) the VQ35-DE is an amazing engine - I love it, except it's lacking a pair of T's after it's name
re 2jz vs rb26... that's been covered in a previous thread ad nauseum.
and bubbles - you say the funniest things sometimes
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I didn't say the V6s weren't smooth, I just said the I6s were smoother which makes them good candidates for applications where NVH matters a lot like in luxury cars.
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What you're really getting at is that straight engines tend to make more torque which means a "smoother" ride.
Heck, just throw in a large capacity V8 and it'll be even smoother than an I6 while taking up the same amount of space.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 09:29
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Why i love V6s: the sound of Quad Cam variable valve/cam timing coming on song. Watch the advert for the 350z (the thrash through deserted euro streets one) for an example.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 09:32
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| Apollo wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 17:26 |
What you're really getting at is that straight engines tend to make more torque which means a "smoother" ride.
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How does that work, why does a cylinder suddenly produce more torque because it's on an angle? Generally the only reason I can think they are smoother is because they are better balanced!
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Tue, 13 April 2004 10:03
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Do a search there was a topic that was started about a daimler/merc engine then the 3gr-fse was also brought up.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 10:09
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 does it REALLY matter what configuration of engine is in the car?.. i mean if it makes the power... makes it efficiently and helps improve car balance, i can see no problem
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| bubbles wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:03 |
| gianttomato wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 10:59 |
The best engine in the world, the RB26DETT,[/sarcasm] is over 15 years old. The JZ motors are 14 years old.Production dates - in terms of development dates they are even older.
The RB series were an improvement over the L series, the JZ were an improvement over the M series.
Now the VQ series craps all over the RB series as do the GR series over the JZ.
Everytime I see a 350Z with the beautiful VQ35DE being turfed in favor of the rattly old RB26DETT, I feel dumber.
Comments regarding smoothness of V6 engines might apply for chalf cutters like the Buick and Capri V6s (the roots of which date back to the 50's), but not for these modern beautifully engineered V6s.
It's called progress fellas. Get on the train. It's leaving the station.
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do you get zoom mags in melbourne, if you do, start reading them
There arent any vq turbo engines out whet, what vq crapes all over the rb, eheheh, let me see a 350americana beat a rb26tt, maybe in dream land, also at t88 on a supra flows 1000rpm faster than a rb26 so get your facts right dopy
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Dont listen to them, they dont understand anything as well as magazine journalists. You and your books are exactly right.
i wish i had a t88 supra sik as.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 11:25
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 19:32 |
| Apollo wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 17:26 |
What you're really getting at is that straight engines tend to make more torque which means a "smoother" ride.
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How does that work, why does a cylinder suddenly produce more torque because it's on an angle? Generally the only reason I can think they are smoother is because they are better balanced!
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http://hotrodders.com/t26977-15-4.html
I learnt some more stuff too.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 22:08
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Dude, that doesn't say anything useful at all, of course a straight six of the same displacement as an 8 is possibly going to have more room for valves (bore/stroke dependent) but it doesn't mean jack when we are comparing the engines in general, it comes down to too many variables, not the configuration.
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| Apollo wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 19:26 |
What you're really getting at is that straight engines tend to make more torque which means a "smoother" ride.
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Do go on Dr. Science.
Please explain to us how a different engine configuration with the same number of cylinders and capacity results in differing torque.
Also, in your answer, please reconcile this with why engines of the same capacity with a different number of cylinders do NOT have any discernable difference in torque.
We all eagerly await your well thought out and highly referenced reply.
*Note: A bunch of 16 year olds shit talking on a car forum is not a reference article.
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Tue, 13 April 2004 22:24
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| gianttomato wrote on Wed, 14 April 2004 06:21 |
*Note: A bunch of 16 year olds shit talking on a car forum is not a reference article.
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Credibility also reduced when they are American and/or bogans.
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Anyway, so what happen, why the suddent change in engines?
Can anyone explain this to me, im not arguing that the vq is blablabla. why the suddent change in engines?
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| Camry_omega wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:44 |
So inline-6 engines, have in recent years been replaced by V6 engines in alot of cases. Could a reason for this be that a V6 engine can be mounted transversley and be used for both front wheel drive, and all-wheel drive applications?
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Well thats what i thought anyway.
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Anyway, so what happen, why the suddent change in engines?
Can anyone explain this to me, im not arguing that the vq is blablabla. why the suddent change in engines?
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Probably mostly because of tougher emissions requirements which the older engines can no longer comply with (well, not cost-effectively anyway). Old engines get replaced with newer, better ones; that's the way it's always been! As mentioned above, the JZ and RB series engines are getting a bit long in the tooth now.
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configuration of an engine is independant of the amount of emmisions it produces, this has been covered before. Their all going v6 because it is a smaller more compact engine. Allows for better weight distribution and can be used in a transversal config for fwd or 4wd
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Anyway, so what happen, why the suddent change in engines?
Can anyone explain this to me, im not arguing that the vq is blablabla. why the suddent change in engines?
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Me fail english thats unpossible
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as far as i see it, there should be no such thing as a V6,
in my divine order of engines, it goes from I6 to V8, as a V6 is heaps more complex than an I6 due to twice as many heads, twice as many cams (you would hope) it being wider, heavier etc
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in my perfect world of cars, originally there would be no front whel drives, but after driving a first gen civic for the last couple of months, i agree thta they make good shopping trolleys.
a FWD car needs and deserves ntohing larger than a 4 cylinder, want more power? turbo it. i have driven a mate's GITR powered sss pulsar, and that had plenty of stink, how much torque steer do you want.
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and the fact that a V8 isnt much more complicated than a V6 (it has 2 more pistons, big deal) plus it is fundamentally better balanced, although i do like the idea of a flat plane crank V8
the problem is that V8s have this terrible stigma thanks to, well you know who, wheras a V6 is a "nice" engine.
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in my divine order of engines, it goes from I6 to V8
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in my divine order of engines, it goes from I6 to V8
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So what happens if you are building a FWD?
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hmmm this is an interesting thread lots of good reading here.
just a quick question, im not really sure, but i heard somewhere they were dropping turbocharged engines from the new japanese sportscars (350z, mkV supra, etc) because of emissions in california?
is that right?
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That happened ages ago in California. That's the reason the Supra and RX7 was dropped from the US market in the late 90's.
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You would have read that in the 2003 Dubbo thread that someone resurrected... I drove to Victoria straight after last year's nationals. I'm home in Brisbane now though.
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Why don't toyota just make their engines like they used to? One for the rest of the world and a C model for california, everyone wins
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Re: The end of straight six engines?
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Thu, 15 April 2004 06:31
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| gianttomato wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 10:59 |
The best engine in the world, the RB26DETT,[/sarcasm] is over 15 years old. The JZ motors are 14 years old.Production dates - in terms of development dates they are even older.
The RB series were an improvement over the L series, the JZ were an improvement over the M series.
Now the VQ series craps all over the RB series as do the GR series over the JZ.
Everytime I see a 350Z with the beautiful VQ35DE being turfed in favor of the rattly old RB26DETT, I feel dumber.
Comments regarding smoothness of V6 engines might apply for chalf cutters like the Buick and Capri V6s (the roots of which date back to the 50's), but not for these modern beautifully engineered V6s.
It's called progress fellas. Get on the train. It's leaving the station.
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WORD to that.
progress is progress fellas. keep up with it or you'll end up a bogan.
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: The end of straight six engines?
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Thu, 15 April 2004 07:08
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| Norbie wrote on Thu, 15 April 2004 15:33 |
You would have read that in the 2003 Dubbo thread that someone resurrected... I drove to Victoria straight after last year's nationals. I'm home in Brisbane now though.
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i see. i was hoping your beast was down here so i could have had a lookie and met the man with all the help himself
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Gympie, Queensland
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Re: The end of straight six engines?
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Thu, 15 April 2004 07:28
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| Allan wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:10 |
| bubbles wrote on Tue, 13 April 2004 11:03 |
do you get zoom mags in melbourne, if you do, start reading them
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Ummm Excuseeeeeee me but admiting to buying a current zoom magazine is the equivlent of slaping a dickhead sticker on your forhead, it used to be readable tech articals now its just a generic Gay4's magazine and advetisements for that tillbrook and JMS place!
Allan
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how can you say 4cyl's are gay?, i read in street machine honda's V-TEC 2.2L was makkin 270HP. Naturally Asparated, is that gay? whats your 7m put out? why do you have to pay out people with 4's mate, fair enough ive got one, but ive got an 8 too, and sure enough if i rocked up next to u at the lights my mates would pay you out for having a jap car lol. does that mean its not quick? NO, does that mean its a peice of shit? NO. i bet there are 100's of cars in that magazine that have got more time and energy put into them than yours, so dont pay people out for having a 4 cylander, coz u've got a 6. would that make u a d!ckhead to every one that owns a v8? so unless you've got a v12 in your shed mate, keep the "smaller capacity engine" comments to yourself.
[Updated on: Thu, 15 April 2004 08:11]
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Perth
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May 2003
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Re: The end of straight six engines?
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Thu, 15 April 2004 08:11
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If you can read english he is talking about the magazine ZOOM , he aslo said it was like the GAY4's magazine which is refering to the crapy rice4's magazines which are full of crap and how to instal neons and install nos in your rocker cover.
half of the cars on hear are 4cyls
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Re: The end of straight six engines?
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Thu, 15 April 2004 08:18
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so theres a difference in rice now? is your car tough till u add neons?, your cars jap, so its a ricer right? all im saying is give those guys a break, and im sick of dickheads saying "oh is a peice of shit coz its a ford/holden/ricer" for fuk sake, it your a true car enthusiast you will respect a car for the effort,money, blood sweat and tears(?) that went into its bulid, not the badging.
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Perth
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May 2003
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Re: The end of straight six engines?
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Thu, 15 April 2004 08:26
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| coronamark2 wrote on Thu, 15 April 2004 16:11 |
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dude serioulsy what are you going on about?
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: The end of straight six engines?
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Thu, 15 April 2004 09:56
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| coronamark2 wrote on Thu, 15 April 2004 18:26 |
| coronamark2 wrote on Thu, 15 April 2004 16:11 |
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dude serioulsy what are you going on about?
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LOL
sometimes, i could kiss you
only metaphorically speaking though
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