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RobST162
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Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 04:39 Go to next message
Hey all

So we have to weld the new radiator support to the AE92 SX Hatch that me and my mate are repairing. BUT

All or our welding options have fallen through, so I was thinking of buying a welder and doing it myself. (please don't laugh - isn't this the basic premise of Toymods anyway Wink )

SO what I have to weld is:

a) Radiator Support = spot welds

b) Extractor downpipe = seam weld (may outsource this, as these are harder)

Do you guys think this is a reasonable idea? I have been wanting to learn to weld for a while, and I will practice on some scrap metal blah blah. I am not an idiot either and know the safety precautions involved.

Unless someone wants to come around and do it. It is like a 1/2 hour job max, but I have no options anymore...
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RobST162
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oh.. and what kind of welder should i be looking at??

thanks again..
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twinturbo86
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 05:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
for the radiator support pannel u can use a mig, as spotwelders are pretty hard 2 come by. u can also use it on the extractors if they are made from mild steel. or u can get a arc welder but there pretty messy
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RobST162
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 05:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mig welding requires the gas bottles though.. Sad arc I can plug right in.. Smile

yeah, I was leaning toward just doing some seam welding on the radiator support....
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samdowning
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 06:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
get yourself a MIG for sure, they're great. they make anybody a pro with only a little bit of practice. frankly i think it's a great idea to teach yourself to weld, when you do you'll wish you did ages ago. as far as buying the mig itself, you definitely want the highest current rating possible (try and get something over 200A) for the budget, but other than that if you wont be using it much you may as well get the cheapest one you can find.

good luck mate
sam
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knackers
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi rob
If you got just a small bit of welding(sounds like you have). Hire a mig with gas for a day you'll get a better job with gas
Just a suggestion Smile
cya knackers
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EVOSTi
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what do ppl think of gasless mig's?
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Cyber-punk
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EVOSTi wrote on Thu, 15 April 2004 20:07

what do ppl think of gasless mig's?



do a search, the different welder types where covered in a thread in general discussions i think
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V8supra
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
robST162........hire a mig for the day!!


As for gasless mig`s, well they`re just an easy to use arc welder.Not much good for light material.
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Grega
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i bought a SIP coppermate 170 - about 3 months ago. its gas/gasless - i have a small bottle of argon which works out to about $110 a year to own (on a hire basis) and is $50 to fill when needed.

i learnt using the gasless (flux) wire and found it awesomely effective and FAR better than arc. now with the gas its even better again.

if you're not going to use it full time or in the future go hire one - i paid ~$700 or so for mine.
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knackers
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hi evosti
i am a beleaver in the gas its a lot smoother and neater.
cya knackers
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EVOSTi
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cool Smile i just asked cause we borrowed one at work recently for something, if i got spare time i might stuff arround with it. i was hoping to use it to weld a fitting ontot the sump for an oil return, but if its not good for the smaller stuff... ohwell.
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RobST162
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Thu, 15 April 2004 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Guys thankyou for your AWESOME help.

I am off to hire a MIG Welder today Very Happy

Hopefully the car wilkl be running by tonight... Evil or Very Mad
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samdowning
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Re: Help Needed - Welding Fri, 16 April 2004 00:26 Go to previous message
good idea hiring one, when you get it before you have a go on the good stuff you want to do, get some metal of roughly the same thickness etc. and have a practice, you can play around with the wire feed, current, and gas pressure until you get a good result, then go on to the good work piece. the thickness of the metal makes a huge difference, generally it's far easier to weld thicker stuff, because you can keep the current up, without blowing holes in it. also it tends to be easiest to weld two pieces that are roughly the same thickness. anyway i guess the guy you hire it from will be full of good advise, so good luck, and if you need any help with techniques etc let us know.

cheers
sam
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