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intercooler for 4agte
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Wed, 21 August 2002 05:39
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the ke30 conversion is under way and was just wondering what type of intercoolers you 4ag turo guys are running. will the stock ze one be efficient enough if its front mounted?
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: intercooler for 4agte
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Wed, 21 August 2002 12:51
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unless you're running low boost (6-8psi) I think you'll find the stock GZE cooler too restrictive.
My cooler is an overkill, its 600x300x60mm.
You dont need to go this far unless you're planning on making some really serious power for a 1.6 litre. As far as factory cores go, on a budget i'd rather have a series 4 RX7 cooler than either a GZE or supra cooler. much better internal design, less flow restriction, good cooling properties.
probably the best factory core that will fit your car would be a mitsubishi Evo Lancer or VR4 Galant intercooler. bit more expensive than a series 4 one though.
Phil
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Montrose, VIC
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Re: intercooler for 4agte
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Wed, 21 August 2002 14:02
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Yeah, pretty much depends how much grunt you're looking at making! The MisterBishi ones are pretty reasonable, see what kind of price you can score one for. If you've got big plans in store, then its time to fabricate one. Mines being done right now, 660x350x80 (replacing my Supra one I was using), because eventually I have big plans (which may include a 3SGTE if the poor little 4a cries enough!), so I figured theres no point stuffing around. The best factory core you'll find is Skyline GTR, but they generally cost more than getting something made anyway. Also keep an eye on the trading post, occasionally something reasonable pops up in there.
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Adelaide
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May 2002
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Re: intercooler for 4agte
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Wed, 21 August 2002 14:14
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yeah i wa looking at running about 12-14psi out of the t3 turbo so i guess upgrading looks like a good idea. how much do hose two Bitsaremissing intercoolers sell for? i know the gtr ones are around 900-1000
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: intercooler for 4agte
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Wed, 21 August 2002 14:23
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Remember to think in terms of air consumption/horsepower rather than psi. If you put an intercooler out of a honda scamp in there, you'd easily run 30 psi, and still make stuff all power...
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Adelaide
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Re: intercooler for 4agte
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Wed, 21 August 2002 14:28
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i was probably aiming at 165kw and the wheels minimum.
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Montrose, VIC
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Re: intercooler for 4agte
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Wed, 21 August 2002 14:33
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Well either go the misterbishi one, or if that is '165 minimum, big plans later', then do it once do it right and get one made as big as can possibly be jammed in.
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Adelaide
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May 2002
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Re: intercooler for 4agte
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Wed, 21 August 2002 15:01
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any idea on what they cost
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: intercooler for 4agte
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Thu, 22 August 2002 02:49
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The one I'm getting made is costing $800. This is using a K&J core, 80mm thick. Personally I didn't think that was too bad, about the same price as a 2nd hand GTR core, only flows even better and has the pipes/mounting points wherever you like, not wherever nissan decided they should go.
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: intercooler for 4agte
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Thu, 22 August 2002 13:16
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$800 is a really good price for a proper core that size!
like you said, why buy a GTR one when you'd get a better deal making the end tanks to suit.
Phil
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: intercooler for 4agte
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Thu, 22 August 2002 14:33
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Yeah, I was pretty damned impressed too! I'll take lots of pics when I get it, and post them up for all to see, and let you know how well it works (temp + pressure drop - although with something that size I expect my poor little engine will be struggling to make pressure drop...)
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Adelaide
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May 2002
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Re: intercooler for 4agte
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Thu, 22 August 2002 17:38
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seen a vr4 one in the trader for 350. might snap that one up if any good
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