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T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Thu, 15 April 2004 10:11 Go to next message
Been looking at obtaining a T series for my AE-86. To cut a long story short, I can get:

RA-60, T-18 shape? drum brake, T312 (3.909:1, 2 pinion) 1425mm face to face (I think)

MA-45? DISC BRAKE! T312, also 1425mm face to face.

Current diff- S314, 1405mm face to face.

I was told the T-18 diff is bolt in. This is what I can find. Does anyone know if the disc brake diff will bolt in? Any ideas if the driveshaft will fit?
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Thu, 15 April 2004 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I was told the T-18 diff is bolt in. Yes it is. You need the t18 tailshaft as well though, its slightly shorter but you'll need that.

This is what I can find. Does anyone know if the disc brake diff will bolt in? If the disc brake diff your talking about is a T series it will bolt in. These are found on JDM AE86's.
Any ideas if the driveshaft will fit? When converting to a T series rear end the diff sits slightly more forward than the S series. So you'll need the slightly shorter T series tailshaft to suit. everything else bolts up ie. traling arms, panhard rod, brake lines, handbrake cables all bolt in.

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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Thu, 15 April 2004 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sorry, I'm a little slow tonight, can you spell this out for me?

The disc brake diff & driveshaft are off a MA-45. Is it going to fit?
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Thu, 15 April 2004 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
not sure about the ma45, the mounting points may be different for the trailing arms and stuff.

I know for sure that the t18 bolts in.
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Thu, 15 April 2004 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ah, well, that stuff looked about right Razz I'll buy it and see if I can fit it.
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Thu, 15 April 2004 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MA45 is an F-series isn't it? You'll need to swap your mounting points from your current rear end onto the MA45 one.

Some info in here may help. Or it may not... Smile
It's about getting a bigger diff to replace a live-rear T-series...
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=19281#msg_157896
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Thu, 15 April 2004 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nope. MA-45 with T series diff. and I SAW the (I think it was) 4M when I checked the compliance plate. Used to have a W50 in it, only someone had already taken it.
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Thu, 15 April 2004 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Someone must have tried this before.... mind you, being cheap, it probably won't work...
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Thu, 15 April 2004 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MA45 is T series MA46 is F series, are there any other parts left on this MA45?

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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Thu, 15 April 2004 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just so u know the MA45 and MA46 diff will not bolt in to the AE86, the track is wider and the mounting points are different. It will need modification.

and yes i too am interested in some MA45 parts.

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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Fri, 16 April 2004 07:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wraith i would just go with the t18 diff. Its much cheaper and theres no fucking around needed to get it in. Everything bolts up!

Then all you need is a nice 2nd hand 2way lsd.

have fun

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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Fri, 16 April 2004 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I've got an ra40 diff I'm planing on fitting in my sprinter soon (got it cheap). All seems to measure up nearest I can tell exept has no sway bar mounts , does any one know if thats the only isue ,aside from scoring t18 rear tail shaft sect.BTW go the t18 diff,st141 disc setup is supposibly a boltup,if thats what you;re after.
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Fri, 16 April 2004 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
OK, heres the go-

I want discs. The MA-45 diff APPEARS to have the mounts in the same place, he wants $150 for it. I measured the track, seems to be about 20mm wider, not a problem for me. Have a friend who can weld, so I might buy it anyway. I don't have a T-18 diff at my disposal- the next best thing is the RA-60 diff. Which probably will have the same problems, right? Tell me what you want off the MA-45 and I'll see if its there. Be aware it's been sitting around for about a year. Replies will be required tonight sometime though..... PLEASE!!!!
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Sun, 25 April 2004 05:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the MA45 diff mounting points are marginally wider than the AE86/TE71, but it's the panhard rod that causes the problem as the diff will be offset to the drivers side. the axle splines are the same as the TE71/early AE86, as are the heads. the axles are marginally longer than the TE/AE unit(7mm- ish).the driveshaft flange is the same as a TT132/141 Corona and depending on the age of the T-50 this is the drivehaft to use without getting one made.
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Mon, 26 April 2004 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Interesting you mention the panhard offset, as I've lowered the vehicle an inch or so, which SHOULD push it passenger way a little bit. I sourced a T series tailshaft today & intend to try fit the diff soon, as my S series shat a bearing around 250kms from home- gotta love RAC roadside assist. I'll keep you posted as how bad it goes.
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Mon, 26 April 2004 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wraith wrote on Thu, 15 April 2004 18:11

Been looking at obtaining a T series for my AE-86. To cut a long story short, I can get:

RA-60, T-18 shape? drum brake, T312 (3.909:1, 2 pinion) 1425mm face to face (I think)

MA-45? DISC BRAKE! T312, also 1425mm face to face.

Current diff- S314, 1405mm face to face.

I was told the T-18 diff is bolt in. This is what I can find. Does anyone know if the disc brake diff will bolt in? Any ideas if the driveshaft will fit?


Arent the S series diffs the same width face to face as the jap ae86/te71/t18 diff?

im pretty sure they are
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Mon, 26 April 2004 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes the S series are the same, but they are lighter built and ratios arn,t as easy to get, neither are LSD's
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Tue, 27 April 2004 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Or discs for that matter. I'm going to modify my existing panhard (read- cut & weld a bit in), is this a really bad idea? It'll be tempory until I get an adjustable rod.
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Tue, 27 April 2004 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wraith, why don't you make your top mount adjustable by way of a plate either side and a series of holes. that way you could change the ride height and just shift the top panhard bolt a hole either direction to get the diff centred.

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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Tue, 27 April 2004 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The alternative option was to drill a second hole in the top mount, sort of like what you suggest. I don't know how much pressure the panhard will produce on the bracket, I wouldn't want to break something on the chassis. I'll go and have another look in a sec. Any which way, I'm going to fit this bitch.
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Re: T Series Diffs- Info Reqd Wed, 28 April 2004 14:33 Go to previous message
Just finished mounting this thing, very tired Sleep . Everything lines up except the panhard (cut, going to weld a sleeve on it to make it.... 37mm longer, or something). T series driveshaft fits nice. Bled brakes. Getting rubber on 16" tomorrow, as 13's won't clear calipers. Fabricating handbrake thingy as stocker won't work (read- welding both thingys together). Brakes seem to work. Might make a bit of a walkthrough titled "how to fit a nonstandard T series diff to an AE-86- No mechanical experience required." Or not. Will now go sleep. Skull
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