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ae71/ae86 5 speed
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Sat, 17 April 2004 15:22
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I do know that the T50 out of the above models are the same. I am assuming the 5 speed out of the ae70 which also had the 4a-c motor is the same. Is anyone able to confirm this either way, would be a great help.
Sorry to ask a question that has probably been answered many times before.
Cheers Chris 
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I supported Toymods
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melbourne.victoria.austra...
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June 2002
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Re: ae71/ae86 5 speed
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Sat, 17 April 2004 20:50
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yes they are the same.
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Location:
hobart
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November 2002
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Re: ae71/ae86 5 speed
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Sun, 18 April 2004 09:43
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Thanks a heap
Cheers Chris 
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Location:
theres a castle on my hil...
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October 2003
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Club Member
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sydney
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May 2002
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Re: ae71/ae86 5 speed
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Tue, 27 April 2004 09:35
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the TA and AE/KE series have different output splines
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Location:
theres a castle on my hil...
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October 2003
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Re: ae71/ae86 5 speed
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Tue, 27 April 2004 09:39
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Ok i just found some of the info i was looking for.
the AE86 has a larger output shaft, 22 spline?
but the ta22 only has a 20 spline.
also found out the shifter positions are different.
could someone explain the difference between forward and rearwards shifter position?
from this i assume the ae86 had the stronger t50. to get this box to fit my ta22 would i only need a clutch plate from a sprinter or is there more involved?
this is all i had to do when i was changing from an early model turbo gearbox to a late model turbo gearbox when i did the swap on my charade.
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Location:
Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: ae71/ae86 5 speed
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Tue, 27 April 2004 09:49
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Ack. The clutch is the same, it's the tailshaft that changes...
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Location:
theres a castle on my hil...
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October 2003
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Location:
Albany WA
Registered:
October 2003
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Re: ae71/ae86 5 speed
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Tue, 27 April 2004 10:44
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And the bell housing should be different, right?
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Brisbane / Gold Coast
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May 2002
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Re: ae71/ae86 5 speed
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Tue, 27 April 2004 11:16
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| Tommo wrote on Tue, 27 April 2004 19:39 |
also found out the shifter positions are different.
could someone explain the difference between forward and
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The TA-22 has the forward shifter position and so they have the gearstick going straight into the selectors, rather than the later type that the AE-86 uses, which has the gearstick going into a remote linkage and that transfers the motion of the gearstick unside-down into the selectors.
That's why a TA-22 T-50 feels better to shift than an AE-86 box.
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Location:
theres a castle on my hil...
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October 2003
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Re: ae71/ae86 5 speed
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Tue, 27 April 2004 13:22
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ok thanks bill. One last Q..
Is there much/any difference in the strength of these boxes?
Im pretty sure now that Im just gonna stick with the celica T50 when I do the conversion.
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Brisbane / Gold Coast
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May 2002
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Re: ae71/ae86 5 speed
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Tue, 27 April 2004 23:01
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Mate I'm not 100% sure but I don't think so.
It's just the output shaft being a touch smaller and having less splines AFAIK.
THe weak point are the gears themselves, usually the input shaft gears, and I think they're the same.
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Location:
Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: ae71/ae86 5 speed
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Wed, 28 April 2004 09:45
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As far as strength goes, as Bill said both boxes appear to have the same size/strength gearset, but the AE86/71 does have a bigger diameter input shaft bearing, and its roller bearing, not conventional ball bearing like the '22.
I have 'damaged' the input shaft bearing on two TA22/T18 boxes with the smaller bearing, but never damaged the one in my AE71 box (with a turbo 4AG)
Cheers
Phil
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