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3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 02:46
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As per topic - anyone ever heard of a ma61 powered by a 3sgte ?
And if so - details ?
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 02:48
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Never heard of such a beast. But why would you? You could almost fit two of them in a MA61 engine bay!
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c'town, NSW
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 03:35
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ed and i researched this very conversion
u haveta ask ed tho i cant blemember what we came up with.
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Carlingford, Sydney
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 06:16
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JTCC or whatever that series is called used 3SGTEs in the JZ80 RZ Supra. Better weight distribution and more boost meant the 3SGTE was a better package than the 2JZTE.
See, fact is stranger than fiction 
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 06:29
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but boost limits and crazy cooling factors need to apply to a road car.
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Canberra
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 06:41
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Just pointing out that it's not as bad a conversion as it 1st seems.
The MA61 is lighter than a GT4. You'll get good hp and torque froma modded 3SGTE at far less weight than say a 7MGTE. I'd happily drop a 3SGTE into a MA6* series Supra and be confident that it would out perform most.
that said what i would most likely do would be to do what Norbie did and go 2JZTE...i'd go big single turbo though.
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 08:09
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take one mint supra with a tired 5me + auto thats sitting in the garage basically gathering dust
Take one spare 3sgte sitting next to mint supra, that needs a home ..
Stir , shake , mix and blend
Create road going version of "retro" jgtc car and yes - weight - less than gt4 , 3sgte is a strong little bugger , Said weight distribution , and plus , it hasnt been done!
Add mild boost( big boost not needed thats what my gt4's motor is for ) , and a decent LSD thats there to said neat handling and braking package of ma61 , with a sprinkle of w57 gearbox and fun is to be had
On the basis of a ta22 3sgte swap guide , the package to put it in should be similar in some respects for clutch/gearbox etc needs .
As i said - its just an idea im throwing around at the monent .. I know the costs wouldnt be all that friendly , but then again - what conversion/modification costs are
[Updated on: Thu, 22 April 2004 08:16]
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 08:22
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| JustenGT4 wrote on Thu, 22 April 2004 16:16 |
JTCC or whatever that series is called used 3SGTEs in the JZ80 RZ Supra. Better weight distribution and more boost meant the 3SGTE was a better package than the 2JZTE.
See, fact is stranger than fiction
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thats only because of the regulations in regard to the boost allowed on the 2J compared to the 3S, allowed the 3S to make more power, the weight/balance thing was a bonus, well apparently according to the workshop anyway
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Adelaide
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I supported Toymods
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 09:15
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| JustenGT4 wrote on Thu, 22 April 2004 16:41 |
Just pointing out that it's not as bad a conversion as it 1st seems.
The MA61 is lighter than a GT4. You'll get good hp and torque froma modded 3SGTE at far less weight than say a 7MGTE. I'd happily drop a 3SGTE into a MA6* series Supra and be confident that it would out perform most.
that said what i would most likely do would be to do what Norbie did and go 2JZTE...i'd go big single turbo though.
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Says the guy who ditched his 3SGTE for a twin turbo 1UZ! 
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 09:26
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LOL he's got you there Justen.
I reckon a 3S-GTE into an SA63 Celica would be great, but when the Supra is built around a big inline six it seems silly not to go that route, especially when there's a range of awesome turbo inline sixes that slot in relatively easily. Much more easily than a 3S-GTE in fact!
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 09:42
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like the 7m or 1j norbie ..
7m was the other tried tested and sucessful option to run with ..
probabaly be a shitload cheaper too
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 22:05
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Yeah but i already have a 3SGTE Norbie....and a quick one at that. It was time for something different
It's all horses for courses. Like i said i'd probably go for the 2JZ option myself but to reiterate, the 3S option is far from stupid, that's all i'm saying 
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Thu, 22 April 2004 22:43
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as far as ed and i deduced, the 3S into a MA61 is only worth the trouble if you build a absolute all out grunter engine.
putting a stock 3S-GTE in would be no better than putting in a 1JZ or 7M which a less trouble and more torque-y.
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: 3sgte into ma61 - anyone heard of one ?
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Fri, 23 April 2004 02:26
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heh - maybe i should use my all out grunter 3sgte then for the conversion 
Just happen to have one of them as well
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